Wish

[Patricier21]

I know people are over thinking and overlooking what it is they truly want and even already have. It is clearly established why magnifico changes dimes, because he is challenged by Asha, and no one else has ever done that before on account of how he runs things. There’s a first time for everything,I can’t believe that everybody else seems to be easily overlooking that. Again, the biggest problem is audiences are expecting too much to become conditioned to a certain way to think or even not think toward something that they’re missing something that even though it may not be the best, is still overall as more than good enough for what it is.

Especially understably compared to the 2011 Winnie the Pooh, which for one of the most bizarre reasons ever got 93% or so on rotten tomatoes, when it is the devils anus; seriously, one of the worst movies ever made, Disney or otherwise. Completely pointless, it doesn’t have any reason to exist, they completely murdered the characters and I have them seem at all like themselves, and it literally is the reason why Disney has not done any more 2D animated movie sense. How the flying hack can anyone actually like it, let alone have that high praise one wish actually deserves it way more?

[Avaitor]

I will say that I believe Disney+ has to be the most successful streamer besides Netflix, and that does appear to be knocking their property value down in some areas. I remember Disney movies being among the most expensive to find second hand, now they're the cheapest. I'm even finding Treasures sets out in the while for sub $20.

[Farerb]

Julia Michaels Wrote the Theme Song for ‘Wish’ Before the Script Even Existed
https://variety.com/2023/artisans/award ... 235820323/

[The Disneynerd]

Julia Michaels Wrote the Theme Song for ‘Wish’ Before the Script Even Existed
https://variety.com/2023/artisans/award ... 235820323/

makes sense, a Script for "this Wish" or the movie in general wasnt needed lol

[PatchofBlue]

I agree with the running sentiment that Disney+ is the biggest single cripple on their recent box office woes, and that the Walt Disney Company's brand recognition gives them and their streaming service an extra obstacle that companies like Warner Bros. and Universal don't have.

I don't think that needs to seal their fate or that they can't have a healthy box office and a thriving streaming service. My prescription for basically every studio is to be generous with the window between theatrical and streaming release. If you condition people to expect a movie at no extra charge after less than three months, then a large portion of the audience won't even bother.

[PatrickvD]

Julia Michaels Wrote the Theme Song for ‘Wish’ Before the Script Even Existed
https://variety.com/2023/artisans/award ... 235820323/

This explains a lot.

[Hardbackyoyo]

Julia Michaels Wrote the Theme Song for ‘Wish’ Before the Script Even Existed
https://variety.com/2023/artisans/award ... 235820323/

This explains a lot.

I don't think this is a new thing, even for movies generally considered "good."

[Pokenonbinary]

Julia Michaels Wrote the Theme Song for ‘Wish’ Before the Script Even Existed
https://variety.com/2023/artisans/award ... 235820323/

They do this with all the movies, including the "good ones"

Honestly Disney Animation needs to change, they should make good scripts first instead of doing a story while making the movie

[MoonMarc21]

So, I watched Wish last, last week but didn’t have the time to write my thoughts on it because of so many stuff happening in my life and I needed time to formulate my thoughts but I’m finally doing it and I think it’s alright, just a fine movie.

The good things about this movie is that, again, it’s a departure from Lassester’s buddy roadtrip formula with the setting being in one location only, the Disney easter eggs (glad that it didn’t derail the movie that much but when it is given a bit of screentime, it atleast has a purpose), everyone in the movie is so expressive (exaggeration and subtlety respectively), the musical numbers and the effects (kinda Spider-Verse-esque, especially in the king’s magic) were well animated and the setting and characters design-wise are okay. Speaking of designs, many people think that the character designs in the art book were much better than the final ones in the movie and I agree somewhat. I’m interested with how Asha’s design started out with the orange and brown color scheme and would like to see it in the final movie but the design we got was fine. If they were to push through with that, the Isabela from Encanto comparisons would never exist thankfully. I also am really interested in Star’s character designs as a human, I think the movie would benefit from it as a human instead of an anthropomorphic star. I get that they wanted to harken back to when the studio made items and such anthropomorphic in their earlier shorts like Silly Symphonies but that was really a missed opportunity, I really would’ve liked them either as friends or lovers. I think it was really cool that they considered both the king and queen to be villains, it would be so unique for the main villains in a Disney movie to be a royal couple. Queen Amaya’s character would’ve benefited from that since in the final movie, the character’s purpose in the movie was a bit aimless.

Which leads me to my 2 pet peeves of the movie, the movie was short and didn’t have good story structure and that they didn’t live up to the artstyle they wanted to achieve. They really needed time to iron out the story and make sure that they’re picking the right concepts to put in the final movie, which is what all movies, especially animated movies, need to do. I seen a lot of people being let down that the “good” ideas in a movie’s art book didn’t make it into the final cut so studios really need to be careful and decisive in the ideas they make for the movie they’re making. Didn’t Jennifer Lee say that she made everyone in the studio make 3 drafts of a movie’s script before doing animation because of her experience in making Frozen 2? And the artstyle of this movie, I get what they really wanted to do, they wanted the movie to look like the paintings of John Bauer, Kay Nielsen, Edmund Dulac, and Gustaf Tenggren and that really is a beautiful artstyle to be inspired from but they really needed someone to help them make it become a reality. The movie still looks fine and beautiful at times, but it makes you wish that it achieved the artstyle the filmmakers wanted to make.

Overall, it’s a fine and dandy movie that really need supervision to help it become a better movie. I’d watch it again to see the visuals in HD or 4k as much as possible since it benefits from that format a lot.

[DisneyJedi]

From what I heard, the movie has so far made $82 million worldwide. I know that’s not necessarily something to sneeze at, but it seems like Wish is doing better numbers in the two weeks it’s been in theaters than Strange World has its entire theatrical run.

[Woodrow Pride]

I watched Wish a few weeks ago and it disappointed me very much. The story felt very choppy and slapped in your face. The animation was terrible. The rendering was horrible. The songs were powerless. The characters were shallow. The whole thing was shallow.

It did not in the least ever resemble anything that looks like Walt’s work. It was terrible. They tried so hard, but in the wrong ways. It looked absolutely terrible. I’m pretty sure it even disgraced Walt’s work. The story was so simple it was hardly a story. At the end they just “wished” that King Magnifico would stop, and then he did. They didn’t even have to do anything. And seriously, his wife betrayed him that fast?

The animation was horrible. Absolutely terrible. I don’t know what they animators or supervising animators were thinking, but something was terribly wrong with it. It seemed bouncy in the wrong way. Some shots looked like raw blocking (like the shot at the very beginning of Asha’s tour of Rosas), like they didn’t even bother with splines. There was one shot where Asha is having her first argument with King Magnifico and she strikes this very awkward, unnatural pose that nobody in their right mind would ever do. The easing in some shots was terribly messed up as well.

I spotted a lot of Frozen easter eggs, especially with some character’s posing and animation, though I can’t be certain they were intended to be that.

The jokes were completely unfunny, and Valentino had no reason to exist except for horrible jokes and unneeded comments. I wasn’t sure if he was actually mentally insane or just decided to hide his sanity. I don’t even want to mention the scene that just had chickens flying across the screen. The Teens also felt like they were too many characters to have in the story, not to mention that very-stereotypical characters often get boring. I often found myself thinking, “What in the world was that–”

It did entertain, though, before I became very annoyed at the songs. I don’t think I’ll ever voluntarily watch Wish again. It’s a complete disgrace to Walt’s legacy. There couldn’t’ve been a better movie to put another big nail into Disney’s coffin.

[Vlad]

I'll just wait for them to put it on Disney+. I wanted to see Napoleon on the big screen (that was another disappointment as well ), so I passed this on its opening weekend. Now, it's available in Romanian in theaters, and I'm not at all interested seeing it dubbed.

[MoonMarc21]

The songs were powerless.

At the end they just “wished” that King Magnifico would stop, and then he did. They didn’t even have to do anything.

Okay, summarizing the final battle like that makes it so stupidly funny Woodrow Pride.

Also, I do think they shouldn’t have Julia Michaels and Benjamin Rice to be the songwriters for the movie that was supposed to be celebrating 100 years of Disney, even if I did like them somewhat with only one I truly loved. Hire someone who is a veteran in making Disney musicals, Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez were right there! Why wait for them to come back for another Frozen sequel?

[Kyle]

Julia Michaels Wrote the Theme Song for ‘Wish’ Before the Script Even Existed
https://variety.com/2023/artisans/award ... 235820323/

They do this with all the movies, including the "good ones"

Honestly Disney Animation needs to change, they should make good scripts first instead of doing a story while making the movie

I guess the difference here is that in the past, they would have cut this song after realizing it doesn't work, and started over, but they didn't. Maybe because they wanted to make sure it was finished in time for the 100th year celebration thing.
But it looks like the movie bombed (criticallly and financially), just like I knew it would. They need new manangment.

[Farerb]

[blackcauldron85]

Valentino had no reason to exist except for horrible jokes and unneeded comments. I wasn’t sure if he was actually mentally insane or just decided to hide his sanity.

I mean, he is a newborn baby!!

[Hardbackyoyo]

Your point?

[Hardbackyoyo]

The story was so simple it was hardly a story.

So? Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty also had simple stories.

[Sotiris]

I haven’t seen ‘Wish’ yet, but from the trailer I can tell that there was an aim at a stylistic change as far as the [watercolor] backgrounds. I do applaud any innovative look that gets away from hyper CG reality.

Source: https://www.indiewire.com/features/anim ... 234930893/

[MoonMarc21]

I don’t know if someone already posted this, but Disney released an music video for the end credits song A Wish Worth Making. It includes scenes from prior Disney movies, even Treasure Planet.

Also, here’s an opinion from someone who worked on the movie as an artist.