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CampbellzSoup wrote:If they added in SOME sort of insentive besides the standard Up on Blu Ray I would def consider it perhaps Monstesr Inc Up Bugs Life (No one really likes it ;p) and free Ticket to Toy Story Id consider it.
A box of dog biscuits, a bag of exotic bird feathers, old man dentures, a bottle of dirt labeled "South America", a package of balloons, and a flight helmet. :lol:
:lol: please if it had all that it would be $500 since it is enhanced with "Disney Magic".

Too Bad I have all the Blu Rays released thus far too :*(. Though the lamp would be a neat little collectors item to have.
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OKAY. I am confused.

Does the 2 disc dvd have all the bonus features or is the second disc just for the digital copy? Can I buy the single disc dvd and still get all the DVD only bonus features. THANKS!
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Harbinger wrote:Does the 2 disc dvd have all the bonus features or is the second disc just for the digital copy?
Just the Digital Copy.
Harbinger wrote:Can I buy the single disc dvd and still get all the DVD only bonus features.
Unfortunately, no.

Here's a breakdown of the four versions.

Single Disc DVD $29.99
-The Movie
-"Partly Cloudy"
-"Dug's Special Mission"


Deluxe Edition DVD $39.99
Disc One:
-The Movie
-"Partly Cloudy"
-"Dug's Special Mission"
-Filmmakers' commentary
-Adventure is Out There featurette (21:20)
-The Many Endings of Muntz featurette (4:41)

Disc Two:
-Digital Copy.


4-Disc Combo Pack $45.99
Disc One: Blu-Ray
-The Movie
-"Partly Cloudy"
-"Dug's Special Mission"
-Filmmakers' commentary
-Cine-Explore with BonusView
-Global Guardian Badge and Geography games
-BD-Live

Disc Two: Blu-Ray
-Adventure is Out There featurette (21:20)
-The Many Endings of Muntz featurette (4:41)
-Canine Companions featurette (8:04)
-Geriatric Hero featurette (6:06)
-Russell: Wilderness Explorer featurette (8:35)
-Our Giant Flightless Friend Kevin featurette (4:50)
-Homemakers of Pixar featurette (4:25)
-Balloons and Flight featurette (6:08 )
-Composing for Characters: Michael Giacchino Scores Up featurette (7:18 )

-Married Life Alternate Scene (8:48 )

-Trailers & TV Spots
--Superbowl TV Spot (0:57)
--Trailer 2 (1:39)
--Trailer 3 (2:18)

Disc Three: Deluxe Edition DVD
-The Movie
-"Partly Cloudy"
-"Dug's Special Mission"
-Filmmakers' commentary
-Adventure is Out There featurette (21:20)
-The Many Endings of Muntz featurette (4:41)

Disc Four:
-Digital Copy


Luxo Jr. Premium Pack $199.99
-The 4-Disc Combo Pack and the Luxo Lamp.

ETA: Fixed the single-disc price. :P

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For what its worth, the lamp is pretty big. I mean, look at it compared to the blu ray case, it seems about 13 inches tall, even though it looks like, half that.

And while I know not everyone is as fanatical as me, but people will buy it.
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This looks like it may be one of their weakest blu-rays, yet. Definitely not up to quantity standards of past Pixar films. In fact, Disney could, yet again, be wasting discs just by putting all the "documentaries" on the second disc.
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I just want the damn Blu Ray release stop putting the DVD in it.
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ajmrowland wrote:This looks like it may be one of their weakest blu-rays, yet. Definitely not up to quantity standards of past Pixar films. In fact, Disney could, yet again, be wasting discs just by putting all the "documentaries" on the second disc.
There are 83 minutes of bonus features on disc 2, which doesn't include the games and possibly art galleries. While this might be shorter than a Platinum edition, it is still a decent amount of bonus features. In fact, it's more than Wall-E had if you don't count The Pixar Story, which had little to do with the production of Wall-E. It's actually looking like Pixar's strongest Blu-Ray when you consider that this is the first 2-disc Blu-ray with all of the material focused on the film itself. I don't think it can be called "wasting" a disc to not compress the heck out of everything or only offer them in standard definition to cram them onto one disc.
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ajmrowland wrote:This looks like it may be one of their weakest blu-rays, yet. Definitely not up to quantity standards of past Pixar films. In fact, Disney could, yet again, be wasting discs just by putting all the "documentaries" on the second disc.
Yeah, I can't agree with you. I believe it is their best release, judging by the bonus features. It is going to be loaded with extras! And I LOVE having the DVD and Digital Copy. I like the DVD for my room and for travel and I like the Digital Copy for doctor visits and such. I think more people like having them than not having them or else Disney wouldn't continue to do the combo packs.
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I dont know if someone else has commented on this....but....is anyone else ANGRY that all the behind the scenes stuff wont be available at all on dvd??

I dont have a blu-ray player, and have no interest in buying one for the time being....but i want all the documentaries...so what am I supposed to do??

So unfair!
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CampbellzSoup wrote:I just want the damn Blu Ray release stop putting the DVD in it.
Amen!

And if they had too, I wish it came like Sleeping Beauty did. In a slip case, so I can just give it away. But now, in my Blu Ray case, if I do that, there is an empty spot, and that will drive me nuts.
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ajmrowland wrote:This looks like it may be one of their weakest blu-rays, yet. Definitely not up to quantity standards of past Pixar films. In fact, Disney could, yet again, be wasting discs just by putting all the "documentaries" on the second disc.
More than eighty minutes of HD material can't fit on the same disc as the movie. The quality would suffer.
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Marce82 wrote:I dont know if someone else has commented on this....but....is anyone else ANGRY that all the behind the scenes stuff wont be available at all on dvd??

I dont have a blu-ray player, and have no interest in buying one for the time being....but i want all the documentaries...so what am I supposed to do??

So unfair!
Stop whining it part 1, secondly if you want them so badly invest in Blu Ray a player is only $99. at Walmart, plus you know Disney is going to push this format hard so either you buy into it or not.
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By what I said, I meant the standards set by the Toy Story, BL, TS2, and Monsters DVDs.
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Hmm...

I wonder if we are going to get the "Up"isodes as well...
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depooter wrote:Hmm...

I wonder if we are going to get the "Up"isodes as well...
My hunch is that those will end up as downloadable extas on BD-Live. That's what Disney did with the Prince Caspian webisodes.
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goofystitch wrote:
depooter wrote:Hmm...

I wonder if we are going to get the "Up"isodes as well...
My hunch is that those will end up as downloadable extas on BD-Live. That's what Disney did with the Prince Caspian webisodes.
Those were webisodes? I thought they were just vignettes.
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CampbellzSoup wrote:
Marce82 wrote:I dont know if someone else has commented on this....but....is anyone else ANGRY that all the behind the scenes stuff wont be available at all on dvd??

I dont have a blu-ray player, and have no interest in buying one for the time being....but i want all the documentaries...so what am I supposed to do??

So unfair!
Stop whining it part 1, secondly if you want them so badly invest in Blu Ray a player is only $99. at Walmart, plus you know Disney is going to push this format hard so either you buy into it or not.
I find it ironic that CampellzSoup is complaining about Marce82 "whining" about the ridiculous way Disney is aggressively screwing their loyal DVD consumers out of bonus feautures, all in an obvious, aggressive attempt to manipulate people into jumping on the "Blu" bandwagon....

Yet, just a few post earlier, CampellzSoup does a bit of "whining" himself:
CampbellzSoup wrote:
I just want the damn Blu Ray release stop putting the DVD in it.
You just want your "Blu", and we just want our DVD bonus features, including on Disc 2.

The bottom line is, this site is here for ALL of us to voice our opinions and legitimate concerns, be they positive or negative. It's not here just so people can be cheerleeders for "Blu"; it's also for DVD customers as well. And last I checked, DVD still has the commanding lead in sales, in many more homes, than BD.

So, considering this forum is here to discuss the DVD as well as the BD, Marce82 has every right to voice the VERY legitimate concerns about the half-arsed DVD releases Disney is starting to trot out, with bonus features deliberately rationed and withheld, all in an agressive, hardball, attempt to make us kneel before the Almighty "Blu" and accept it as our Home Video Lord and Master.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the more aggressive they become in their tactics, the more determined I am to NEVER go "Blu". I'll take one of my collector friends up on their offer to burn any "BD exclusive" extras that are compatible with DVD, onto a DVD for me, before that happens.

Right now, I can think of at least 99 other things I'd rather spend my money on than a 99 dollar BD player. I NEVER give in to coercion and pressure! Frankly, at this point, I wouldn't want the "Blu" player if Disney gave me one for free. Well, maybe I would accept the prize, and then sell it to buy some DVDs! :D

PS. I hope YOU are reading this, BVHE rep!

For each DVD release that gets the shaft in the extras department in order to make the precious "Blu" bonus feature linup look better and more "exclusive", Disney will not get a PENNY out of me. I'll get copies of everything you leave off the DVD burned onto a recordable DVD from a friend instead!

If Disney wants to show such disdain and contempt for their loyal DVD customers and play hardball, I can play hardball too!

PPS. Well, I guess this post answers Marce82's original question as to whether anyone else agreed with their post! ;)
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Never once did I not say that if I didnt want the *free* DVD that was included in UP would I go and steal the product...holy shit your logic is totally screwed up with that shit.
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CampbellzSoup wrote:Never once did I not say that if I didnt want the *free* DVD that was included in UP would I go and steal the product...holy shit your logic is totally screwed up with that shit.
I NEVER did say you said that. What I DID say was that you were criticising another forum member for "whining", yet you yourself have issues that you complain about. So why can't Marce82 express concerns as well? Just because you don't agree with those concerns?

And it's debatable as to whether friends dubbing bonus features left off the DVD for other friends is "stealing". I can't buy something if Disney doesn't offer it for sale. I am personally of the opinion that once you buy something it's YOURS. Read into that what you will! Having said that, I have never taken anyone up on the offer to dub DVDs for me SO FAR, as I like having the official packaging and artwork. However, doing it to get the coldly witheld bonus features on applicable titles is a special case, IMO - bonus features like these featurettes that COULD and SHOULD have been on the DVD, and clearly WOULD have been on the DVD if either BD didn't exist, or if Disney hadn't sold out their DVD customers to promote BD. If they included these bonus featurettes on the DVD, I'd gladly give them the money for it! But why should I give hard-earned coin to a company on a release where I feel that said company has shown nothing but contempt and disdain for my faction of the market by witholding key features from such release? Believe me, I support purchasing "physical media" more than most people I know in my "real life" away from internet boards. But I can only in clear conscience do so if I feel the physical media company itself is being fair and ethical with their customers!

In any case, no money will be changing hands, so no one will be profiting off anything. People dub CDs, DVDs, etc. for each other all the time. I've experienced it with music going back to high school and college days when people would make cassette tapes off vinyl records and later, CDs, to introduce friends to music they didn't have. If I liked the tape, I would end up buying the CD anyway, because I like having the artwork and liner notes in my "official" collection. If I didn't care for the album, I didn't listen to the tape much anyway, so no harm done.

Let those here who can HONESTLY say they've NEVER done this among friends with music and /or movies throw the first stone! And this INCLUDES things like recording songs off the radio or programs off tv, because some people consider that "stealing" as well!

PS. EDITED TO ADD - I am not the sort of person who tries to get something for nothing - this is more about NOT wanting to support a substandard bonus feature DVD, and unfortunately the only way to recreate the "DVD that should have been" on some titles is to go "homemade" by having someone burn the numorous BD-exclusive featurettes onto a DVD. Again, I would gladly give Disney Home Video this money in exchange for this "ideal DVD that should have been", if they were willing to sell it to me! So in that spirit I will say that for every DVD that gets burned for me, I will make an equivalent donation to the charity of Disney's choice, via the Cinderella Wishing Well at Magic Kingdom and the Wildlife Fund at Animal Kingdom. Plus if they ever put out the TRUE 2-disc DVD in 5-10 years time, I'll gladly pay for that as well, to have an "official" release with artwork and packaging. This is NOT about "stealing", it's about standing up for my principles and not supporting releases that have contempt for DVD supporters.
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