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Farerb wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2026 10:22 pm
Kyle wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2026 3:16 pm Oh, and Taylor's song has been uploaded. I wont even bother linking it, not a fan of her involvement in the first place.
Where on the doll did she hurt you?
She doesn't take strong enough positions on social and political issues which, coming from someone with that level of fame and influence is just cowardly. Has been radio silent on the genocide in Gaza, seems to be a zionist.

Toxic fanbase. If you even suggest her music isn't your thing you will get the whole internet on your back about it.

Pretends to care about climate change while flying her private jet everywhere to tour.

A lot of what she claims to care about feels performative and heavily curated by a pr rep. Most of her songs are just about her numerous break ups, its exhausting.

She seems to want to be thought of as country, but has been straight pop for as long as can remember. She's a billionaire, which shouldn't even be a thing. Her inclusion brings the whole movie down for me because it feels like an obvious business decision, not a creative one.
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Well, Kyle backed his stance up with a lot of reasons!
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92% fresh on RT with 59 reviews in

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/toy_story_5
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The Toy Story Franchise Forgot Its Own Message
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/202 ... ge/687570/

This piece from The Atlantic took me on a journey. Embark with me, if you will.

The author gives a brief assessment of Toy Story 5, but the majority of the essay surveys the existing 4 films.

He spends some time establishing his fondness for the franchise and how it was important to him growing up, but he notably abstains from making any similar kinds of remarks toward other Pixar classics, Pixar animation generally, or The Walt Disney Company as a whole. RE: No one would probably ever call him a "Disney Adult," which I'm guessing is how he'd prefer it.
No one could have known at the time, but Toy Story 3 marked the end not just of Andy’s childhood but also of Pixar’s golden age. In the 15 years following the release of the original, the studio delivered an unbroken series of classics: Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Ratatouille, WALL-E, Up, and finally Toy Story 3. After that, Pixar still produced some hits—most notably 2015’s Inside Out—but its imprimatur no longer carried the same guarantee. The studio, struggling for the first time to connect with original stories, returned to the well.
Noting that Pixar's non-franchise hits are being rejected, but with little speculation on why. We'll circle back to this.
The Toy Story universe is premised on the idea that toys want more than anything to be played with—that a deep bond with a child is what gives a toy’s existence meaning. “No owners means no heartbreak,” the evil purple teddy bear Lotso assures the other toys as he welcomes them to Sunnyside Daycare at the beginning of Toy Story 3. “We don’t need owners at Sunnyside. We own ourselves! We’re masters of our own fate.” Maybe so, the toys learn, but the love is worth the heartbreak. Toys must throw themselves into the relationship with their child, even though they know that the child will one day leave them behind, and then the toy must do the same thing with another child, and another, and another. Toy Story 4 undermines this core emotional drama of the Toy Story franchise by imagining that toys can simply strike out on their own—that they can be, in Lotso’s words, masters of their own fate. It imagines them less as toys than as people. To me, it will always be non-canon.
Yet another valid assessment of why Toy Story 4 is insulting, even within the context of cashgrab sequels. I've never thought it was just regular franchise wear. The toys graduating from Andy just marked the completion of a circle that should have remained closed. And a Toy Story 5 inherits that same shame.
The movie’s gravest sin, though, might be its very existence. The arrival of Toy Story 4 signaled that the original trilogy’s success had, in a way, compromised its own message. A story about growing up and leaving your toys behind had shaped a generation that had grown up and now could not leave it behind. Pixar can’t leave its toys behind, either (as the release of the 2022 spin-off, Lightyear—a box-office and critical dud—drove home). Of the four upcoming projects the studio has announced, three are sequels. The first of those, set for release later this week, is Toy Story 5.
A pretty accurate summation, which makes his subsequent backtracking all the more frustrating.
We’re not the ones clinging to our toys, Stanton argues. You are! Maybe he has a point. If Toy Story 5 brings joy to a new generation of children, who am I to object because it messes with my beloved trilogy?
And ... this is where my face finds my palm.

This whole "but the KIDS will probably love it, so who I am to stop the turning of the wheel" isn't actually new to the discourse. And neither does it afford due respect to something like the original Toy Story. Would it surprise him to know that it's NOT just that the first movie sold a lot of Buzz Lightyear toys, but that it also works really well as a film? If so, he gives an inordinate amount of real estate to examining why it works. Or maybe he just doesn't think today's kids deserve to have their stories fairly appraised, and that's why, I'd speculate, he doesn't think Elio is as good as the Pixar movies of his childhood, and it doesn't occur to him that maybe has something to do with the Pixar sequels which just keep germinating mysteriously.

This whole schtick is just kind of the apotheosizing of a certain rationale that is always assigned to Disney lovers and which is always used to blame them for the state of Hollywood. Like, it's Disney adults killing the film industry and not paid writers who will admit that this move wasn't needed or even very good, but it's awful cute, isn't it? (And you just know that Frozen 3 and 4 will absolutely not receive this same grace for reasons we could probably speculate on ...) Do these people really not see the irony?

By the time Toy Story 6 comes around, I'll imagine someone makes this same observation in The New York Times about how someone should have killed Toy Story 5 in the oven wondering why, oh why these movies are still being made. "Lord, is it I?"
Much as it offends my principles, I can reconcile myself to the continuation of the franchise—so long as it doesn’t come at the expense of Pixar investing in original stories.
Okay. Who wants to tell him?
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I just returned from the theater. Overall, I enjoyed the film, even though it relied heavily on nostalgia. While it didn't tread any new ground, it was well-crafted. There were tons of callbacks and references to Toy Story 1 and 2, ranging from lines lifted directly from the first film to cameos by Emperor Zurg and Emily from Toy Story 2. The movie even repeats a core theme from Toy Story 2 that even if a kid outgrows a toy and gives it up, the experience is still worth it. In a way, this felt like a rejection of Toy Story 4’s message. Perhaps Pixar listened to the criticisms levied against the last installment and decided to course-correct.

There is also an anti-discrimination message centered on Jessie, who starts out biased against tech- and screen-based toys but ends up appreciating them, ultimately conceding that there's room for them in a kid’s life.

What I didn't like was the subplot with the multiple Buzz Lightyears. Their inclusion felt completely unnecessary and cynical, like a corporate mandate by the Consumer Products department to sell new, high-tech Buzz toys. I also disliked the Bambi reference—which even included a snippet of the song "Love Is a Song (That Never Ends)"—as the scene felt tonally off and misplaced. While my general dislike of the two studios intermingling may have colored my opinion, its poor execution here certainly did it no favors.

Lilypad was an okay antagonist. She fits right into the misunderstood/redeemed villain trope. However, I felt that her turning into a good guy and Jessie's supporter was a little too sudden and not entirely earned; she needed a bit more of a character arc.

Taylor Swift's song is the only new song in the film and it's relegated to the end credits. It's not present in the body of the film at all, not even as a snippet or an instrumental. We do, however, hear an instrumental version of "When She Loved Me" multiple times. Taylor's song was just okay; pleasant enough, but nothing special. It's strange Randy Newman didn't write a new song despite coming back to write the score.
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Sotiris wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2026 3:30 pm Taylor Swift's song is the only new song in the film and it's relegated to the end credits. It's not present in the body of the film at all, not even as a snippet or an instrumental. We do, however, hear an instrumental version of "When She Loved Me" multiple times. Taylor's song was just okay; pleasant enough, but nothing special. It's strange Randy Newman didn't write a new song despite coming back to write the score.
Dang, I mean, I'm happy to know her song wasn't in the movie after all. I do find it odd they outright lied when asked about it before the official unveil. I figured they were being intentionally misleading a bit, not outright lying.
And yea, no new randy newman track is a bummer for me. I'm glad he came back at all, but I fully expected something.
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Here is my out of theatre reaction: https://youtube.com/shorts/hG3LxOUuGRE? ... 4NFMbYwdIZ
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