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Sotiris wrote: โ†‘Fri Apr 17, 2026 1:03 am Wow, this was heavily retooled in such a short amount of time. They changed the sex of the lead and aged them up. They changed the look of the mom too who was originally going to be blonde. The tone of the film seems to have changed as well. It looks more comedic than before. The whole thing resembles a Disney Channel movie more now.

I wonder why they decided to change this from a mother-son movie to a mother-daughter one. I feel that mother-daughter stories are much more common in media whereas we don't see mother-son ones as often. Perhaps they got nervous having a male lead since their last male-led film, Strange World, flopped hard. I also got the impression that the male lead wouldn't have been your typical masculine little boy, so perhaps they gender-swapped him to avoid controversy, similar to their concerns surrounding Pixar's Elio. It's also possible they got influenced by the success of K-Pop: Demon Hunters and decided to turn this into a magical girl-power movie in the hopes it would find similar success.

It's also noteworthy that Josie Trinidad got demoted to a co-director. We haven't had a director of a WDAS film get demoted to co-director since Raya and the Last Dragon. What I don't understand is why they would entrust Fawn Veerasunthorn of all people with the direction of another WDAS movie after the massive failure of Wish.

I agree about the character designs. The mom looks too cartoony and exaggerated. The expression on the daughter is too reminiscent of Elsa's famous clipart. But the most off-putting thing for me is their body proportions. They look like stick figures. This is how other studios like Illumination or DreamWorks usually design human characters, not Disney. That's a big letdown for me.
It`s really remarkable how they changed and retooled the movie in such a short period of time and changed the gender of the lead (especially since Frozen II is coming up next year). Cause it would`ve been interesting if Disney actually made a human-centered picture with a male lead nowadays. Perhaps it could be a reason for why there haven`t been any information released about it before now. But like you said, the whole concept resembles a Disney Channel movie (in a time where the Disney Channel properties aren`t as huge as they used to be), let alone a Pixar flick. As such a premise seems like something that Pixar would`ve come up with. And yes, it`s pretty remarkable how they had Fawn Veerasunthorn be in charge of it after Wish.

But as the designs (which I didn`t find on that article, but on Google), I do somewhat like the design of the daughter, but not the mother. Billie has a nice, Disney-esque look, while Alice (another Disney character with that name) looks too cartoony.
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Sotiris wrote: โ†‘Fri Apr 17, 2026 1:03 am I wonder why they decided to change this from a mother-son movie to a mother-daughter one. Perhaps they got nervous having a male lead since their last male-led film, Strange World, flopped hard.
*ding ding ding!!! Thats what i thought too. I mean Disney knows their female led films are the most successful ones with the Frozen franshise, Moana and Encanto being their last big hits, so the gender swap was a no brainer for financial reasons. Also im glad they dont mass dump unusual or less approachable storylines like strange world luca and this with male leads because then Disney would exile the idea of a male lead for the next 20 years. They always learn the wrong lessons its tiring. Just make a classic fairytale but with a male protagonist omfg. :roll:

Also the character designs look so predictable and something AI would squeeze out. The girl reminds me of that fanmade WDAS Red Riding Hood poster from back then, but the mother looks horrible. It was cute and unique with Rapunzel but after 16 years the bug eyes are getting old af :| and the thing that bothers me too are the costume designs, it looks uninspired and lacks character. Literally every other animation studio is trying to do something new visually and WDAS is stuck in the 2010s... like imagine if WDAS never evolved their style and all their iconic movies from the 90s would look like Snow White or Pinocchio... yikes.

Last thing after finishing this cokerant, not a fan of the new logo, the old one looked more memorable and it now looks too close to the owl house logo aside from the storyline. Disney probably regretted cancelling the show too soon after becoming a beloved sleeper hit so they try to reheat its nachos. Also the movie is probably gonna flop. Not Strange World numbers but clearly not more than 400M$ WW.
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What stands out most to me with the character designs are the bright colors, which I'm a fan of. Casting choices? Also top-notch.

I agree that mother-son pairings are regrettably rare in film, and so I'll miss the opportunity this could have been, but I suppose this is also the rare opportunity where changing the film to make it more palatable makes it more open to marginalized groups. Trying to step out of Elio's shadow makes the most sense to me as the most likely explanation.

As for Fawn Veerasunthorn, I'm actually personally learning not to put Pixar and Disney directors in a box and hold their track records against them. There's a lot of precedent for them churning out nonsense only to turn around and supply something I really love. Dan Scanlon went from Monsters U to ONWARD, Peter Sohn went from The Good Dinosaur to Elemental. She'll be given free rein to impress or disappoint based on how this specific movie lands.
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PatchofBlue wrote: โ†‘Fri Apr 17, 2026 11:10 am I agree that mother-son pairings are regrettably rare in film, and so I'l miss the opportunity this could have been, but I suppose this is also the rare opportunity where changing the film to make it more palatable makes it more open to marginalized groups. Trying to step out of Elio's shadow makes the most sense to me as the most likely explanation.
Well, they used to be more common. Just look at Dumbo, Bambi and even Treasure Planet.
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A number of films have given their young male protagonists mother characters, but there are few instances of mother and son going on any kind of adventure together.
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PatchofBlue wrote: โ†‘Sat Apr 18, 2026 10:53 am A number of films have given their young male protagonists mother characters, but there are few instances of mother and son going on any kind of adventure together.
Fair enough.

As for the logo, I do actually like it and find it superior to the previous logo. Despite how it`s not a great logo, either.
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Looks very generic honestly

But now we know that Hexed is not the Romani movie they wanted Romani actors for from 1-2 years ago

I honestly though that a wizards magic movie was logical to be the Romani rep since many Romani women actually believe in magic and witchcraft
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Pokenonbinary wrote: โ†‘Sat Apr 18, 2026 2:58 pmBut now we know that Hexed is not the Romani movie they wanted Romani actors for from 1-2 years ago.
That was for Pixar, not WDAS. And it's most likely the movie Gatto. There's no way Pixar put into development two separate films that had a girl who's a street musician as the main character. That's too much of a coincidence. The casting call had to have been for an earlier iteration of Gatto.
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PatchofBlue wrote: โ†‘Sat Apr 18, 2026 10:53 am A number of films have given their young male protagonists mother characters, but there are few instances of mother and son going on any kind of adventure together.
it doesn't feel that common with mothers and daughters either though... Most mothers in Disney films are dead.
DisneyFan09 wrote: โ†‘Sat Apr 18, 2026 2:24 pm As for the logo, I do actually like it and find it superior to the previous logo. Despite how it`s not a great logo, either.
With a little time to digest everything, I agree. That's something where my impression has changed. It's really nice the way the outer letters are larger. Nice symmetry + the crescent room. Just wonder what the crescent has to do with the plot? Perhaps the character will be trapped in the other world if she doesn't return in time, something she doesn't find out until the third act? (Cue the race scenes.) Or it could be connected to the Cheshire Cat-esque villain. I know there is something called a Cheshire moon. Perhaps the villain's power is moon-related.

So the only things I think they'd be best doing would be to rush this into being a musical and work on the mother's design. It has grown on me a tad and the clipart for their 3D films is notorious for being ugly compared to the character in-film, but still.
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I've been watching this comparative all the weekend in all social media. To be honest they look pretty similar in a few things

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I suppose this is just the other end to the debate with Pixar character designs. "Why do all their characters look the same? It makes their films look cheap" vs. "Why did they change up their character designs? It makes their films look cheap"

It may just be the different expressions on either of their faces, but I'd say Billie's face is a little more square than Honeymaren's, and her eyes a little bigger. It's not a sticking point for me personally.
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I would say they look similar but not an exact rip off or even copy and paste. Itโ€™s like as state above, there are actually differences if you look close enough
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I've been comparing both pics in my iPad with procreate. One picture above the other. The differences are really small, che eyes are almost de same, the lips are larger. The ear and the jaw are the same, the chin looks more curvy on the Hexed character. The neck is thinner too.
Honestly I think that they used the Frozen II character as a base to have a more elaborated picture for the presentation. I couldn't say if it's actually a 3D render or if it's just an illustration with great textures.
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As far as I know the gender change was made recently so they might as well have taken an existing character and made a few changes instead of creating a completely new model due to lack of time.
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Farerb wrote: โ†‘Tue Apr 21, 2026 9:10 am As far as I know the gender change was made recently so they might as well have taken an existing character and made a few changes instead of creating a completely new model due to lack of time.
I think the same. It wouldn't be the first company that makes these kind of practices. It's not a problem for me if they do it only for the first presentation of the character and honestly they have used a secondary character that nobody remember. It would've been worst if they have used Anna or Elsa...
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