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UmbrellaFish wrote: โ†‘Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:41 pm Iโ€™ll always have a soft spot for this wonky little film. I really love Star.
Same. I don't think it's perfect, but this movie just makes me happy, I love the music, I just get enjoyment from it.
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Sotiris wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:43 am A Disney doll just for 3 bucks? Yikes. :shock:
And sheโ€™s the main characterโ€ฆ.just imagine how cheap they are going to sell the rest of the charactersโ€ฆ
And they also released a new King Magnรญfico doll.
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Thumper_93 wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:59 pm
Sotiris wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:43 am A Disney doll just for 3 bucks? Yikes. :shock:
And sheโ€™s the main characterโ€ฆ.just imagine how cheap they are going to sell the rest of the charactersโ€ฆ
And they also released a new King Magnรญfico doll.
i can actually see the Magnifico doll be a solid success. I mean he was the most beloved character in social Media and i read that even kids wanted a Magnifico doll on Christmas :shrug:
Songs that slap right now:

1. House Tour (๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹)*new
2. Heaven on Earth (Britney Spears)
3. Sugar talking (...๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹!) *new
4. Get this right! (Frozen 2)
5. Stuck on you (Lionel Richie)
6. Taste (๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ๐–บ๐–บ๐–บ)
7. Beauty & le bรฉast (๐–ขeline Dion & Peabo Bryson)
8. ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‚๐–ป๐–ป๐–พ๐–บ๐—‡ ๐–ฐ๐—Ž๐–พ๐–พ๐—‡! ( ๐–ก๐—‚๐—…๐—…๐—’ ๐–ฎ๐–ผ๐–พ๐–บ๐—‡)
9. ๐–ณ๐—e Boy is mine (Brandy & Monica)
10. Thats how you know (Enchanted)
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The Disneynerd wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:45 pm
Thumper_93 wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:59 pm

And sheโ€™s the main characterโ€ฆ.just imagine how cheap they are going to sell the rest of the charactersโ€ฆ
And they also released a new King Magnรญfico doll.
i can actually see the Magnifico doll be a solid success. I mean he was the most beloved character in social Media and i read that even kids wanted a Magnifico doll on Christmas :shrug:
The problem here is that nobody is going to buy a re release of a doll that is not the main character.
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UmbrellaFish wrote: โ†‘Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:41 pm I donโ€™t think thereโ€™s any salvaging Wishโ€™s merch problems.

Iโ€™ll always have a soft spot for this wonky little film. I really love Star.
Star was literally the only likeable character in the movie. No lines, but he stole the show.
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Vlad wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:43 pm
UmbrellaFish wrote: โ†‘Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:41 pm I donโ€™t think thereโ€™s any salvaging Wishโ€™s merch problems.

Iโ€™ll always have a soft spot for this wonky little film. I really love Star.
Star was literally the only likeable character in the movie. No lines, but he stole the show.
Star was the best thing for the movie. It was a character made to sell toys and it did it well but I think that they even though that it would sell more. All the plush toys are also on sale.
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Thumper_93 wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:24 pm The problem here is that nobody is going to buy a re release of a doll that is not the main character.
Why not when hes way more beloved and popular in internet culture than the bland main character
Songs that slap right now:

1. House Tour (๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹)*new
2. Heaven on Earth (Britney Spears)
3. Sugar talking (...๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹!) *new
4. Get this right! (Frozen 2)
5. Stuck on you (Lionel Richie)
6. Taste (๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ๐–บ๐–บ๐–บ)
7. Beauty & le bรฉast (๐–ขeline Dion & Peabo Bryson)
8. ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‚๐–ป๐–ป๐–พ๐–บ๐—‡ ๐–ฐ๐—Ž๐–พ๐–พ๐—‡! ( ๐–ก๐—‚๐—…๐—…๐—’ ๐–ฎ๐–ผ๐–พ๐–บ๐—‡)
9. ๐–ณ๐—e Boy is mine (Brandy & Monica)
10. Thats how you know (Enchanted)
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The Disneynerd wrote: โ†‘Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:23 pm
Thumper_93 wrote: โ†‘Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:24 pm The problem here is that nobody is going to buy a re release of a doll that is not the main character.
Why not when hes way more beloved and popular in internet culture than the bland main character
Because the movie is a Flop. He may be popular between fans but the merchandise sales are as bad as the box office.
Also dolls are thought for children instead for collectors. Villains are not so popular between children. They are more popular between fans and the grown people who see the movie.
He might be beloved but nobody remember him.
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I think the reason Encanto was such a banger with folks on TikTok (heck, around the world) is because the music was done by Lin Manuel Miranda, who had a runaway success with Hamilton (one of Broadway's most popular hit musicals of this era) and Moana.

PS, I swear if someone accuses this movie of being written/animated with AI one more time, I will scream. :P
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DisneyJedi wrote: โ†‘Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:00 pm I think the reason Encanto was such a banger with folks on TikTok (heck, around the world) is because the music was done by Lin Manuel Miranda, who had a runaway success with Hamilton (one of Broadway's most popular hit musicals of this era) and Moana
I dont think noone really cared that it was written by Miranda, but what I personally loved about the Bruno song is how theatrical and multifaceted it is, you can act through various types of roles and its pretty catchy, so it was a matter of time that it blew up on Tiktok. All the other songs in the movie were carried by Brunos song, but still had personal conflicts like carrying the families pressure and having to be perfect.
But Wishs songs dont have that relatable or personal narrative that u can go "oh thats so relatable" or "so me" thing, as it Covers up generic overall things and everything Disney
Songs that slap right now:

1. House Tour (๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹)*new
2. Heaven on Earth (Britney Spears)
3. Sugar talking (...๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹!) *new
4. Get this right! (Frozen 2)
5. Stuck on you (Lionel Richie)
6. Taste (๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ๐–บ๐–บ๐–บ)
7. Beauty & le bรฉast (๐–ขeline Dion & Peabo Bryson)
8. ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‚๐–ป๐–ป๐–พ๐–บ๐—‡ ๐–ฐ๐—Ž๐–พ๐–พ๐—‡! ( ๐–ก๐—‚๐—…๐—…๐—’ ๐–ฎ๐–ผ๐–พ๐–บ๐—‡)
9. ๐–ณ๐—e Boy is mine (Brandy & Monica)
10. Thats how you know (Enchanted)
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I keep remembering from time to time how awful this movie was

The movie itself was not bad, it was just bland and the animation style was UGLY (no artistic excuse, just ugly) and the music didn't had any soul (except the romantic duet with the villain)

I hate that disney will never try spain or the Al Andalus ever again due to this massive flop

Hoping that Pixar makes eventually a movie about spain (eventually)
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Pokenonbinary wrote: โ†‘Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:26 am I keep remembering from time to time how awful this movie was

The movie itself was not bad, it was just bland and the animation style was UGLY (no artistic excuse, just ugly) and the music didn't had any soul (except the romantic duet with the villain)

I hate that disney will never try spain or the Al Andalus ever again due to this massive flop

Hoping that Pixar makes eventually a movie about spain (eventually)
You donโ€™t think that โ€œthis wishโ€ has any soul to it? Let alone โ€œThis is the thanks I get?!โ€ Even the most cynical towards this movie, which they should not be, could at least admit that about the songs
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Patricier21 wrote: โ†‘Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:23 am
Pokenonbinary wrote: โ†‘Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:26 am I keep remembering from time to time how awful this movie was

The movie itself was not bad, it was just bland and the animation style was UGLY (no artistic excuse, just ugly) and the music didn't had any soul (except the romantic duet with the villain)

I hate that disney will never try spain or the Al Andalus ever again due to this massive flop

Hoping that Pixar makes eventually a movie about spain (eventually)
You donโ€™t think that โ€œthis wishโ€ has any soul to it? Let alone โ€œThis is the thanks I get?!โ€ Even the most cynical towards this movie, which they should not be, could at least admit that about the songs
No, I don't like those two songs, This Wish is a very generic princess song and Magnifico song is just okay but still I don't like it
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Don't worry, Patricier. You can only expect genuine reactions from someone who is being genuine. :P I thought the film was very pretty even if it didn't look quite as nice I had hoped for; either way, I expect that style was really only for the 100th celebration and they'll go back to straight 3D from here. I still hope hand-drawn might eventually revitalize on streaming in future though. The music was about as good as Miranda's soundtracks...so, in other words, not very good, but not completely unlistenable.

Hopefully PIXAR gets folded into WDAS eventually, I wouldn't be interested in a cultural movie from a dudebro studio like that one. I imagine it would turn out like that time they tried to trademark the Day of the Dead holiday.
Thumper_93 wrote: โ†‘Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:18 am Because the movie is a Flop. He may be popular between fans but the merchandise sales are as bad as the box office.
Also dolls are thought for children instead for collectors. Villains are not so popular between children. They are more popular between fans and the grown people who see the movie.
I think their villains are very popular with children... Saying that as someone who was a child who mostly received villain merch growing up, so... And then there's both Maleficent and Cruella, which have been successful films.
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Disney's Divinity wrote: โ†‘Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:19 am Don't worry, Patricier. You can only expect genuine reactions from someone who is being genuine. :P I thought the film was very pretty even if it didn't look quite as nice I had hoped for; either way, I expect that style was really only for the 100th celebration and they'll go back to straight 3D from here. I still hope hand-drawn might eventually revitalize on streaming in future though. The music was about as good as Miranda's soundtracks...so, in other words, not very good, but not completely unlistenable.

Hopefully PIXAR gets folded into WDAS eventually, I wouldn't be interested in a cultural movie from a dudebro studio like that one. I imagine it would turn out like that time they tried to trademark the Day of the Dead holiday.
Thumper_93 wrote: โ†‘Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:18 am Because the movie is a Flop. He may be popular between fans but the merchandise sales are as bad as the box office.
Also dolls are thought for children instead for collectors. Villains are not so popular between children. They are more popular between fans and the grown people who see the movie.
I think their villains are very popular with children... Saying that as someone who was a child who mostly received villain merch growing up, so... And then there's both Maleficent and Cruella, which have been successful films.
No thanks. Iโ€™d rather they be separate.
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I think that if Villains were so popular between children Disney would have put more effort in making a franchise with products for kids. They release some dolls every few years and they are always the same characters. Sold as a complement for the Princesses dolls.
This new King Magnifico doll doesn't mean anything. Dolls take more than a year to develope so I'm sure that when the movie came out and they saw the flop that turned to be then it was too late to cancel all the merchandise.
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The villains have always been used for adult merch

Like makeup, face masks and nails

And collectors dolls
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:shrug: My childhood said differently. Then again, maybe the shirts and things my parents bought me were for adults only?? I suppose they would've stopped me from buying them at the register if I had tried to buy them for myself back then. rotfl
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Disney's Divinity wrote: โ†‘Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:23 pm :shrug: My childhood said differently. Then again, maybe the shirts and things my parents bought me were for adults only?? I suppose they would've stopped me from buying them at the register if I had tried to buy them for myself back then. rotfl
When I was a child there was no merchandise of the villains for childs. Even Mattel didn't release dolls. Only costumes with masks for the barbie-kind dolls. I'm talking about 90s.
Even now if you search for villains clothes for kids they are really hard to find, at least the official ones.
Villains are more focussed on adult collectors. Kids love other kind of franchises like Disney Princesses or Cars.
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Uh... I grew up in the '90s, so, again, this is a false statement and (lol) misinformation. My mother bought me plenty of shirts with Ursula and the other villains on them, among other things (playing cards, dolls, etc.); they were available to everyone like everything else Disney since they're family-oriented. Mattel notably had the Barbie Ursula. I'm sure they had the other villains, too, that's just the one I took the most notice of back then.

The Disney Store in comparison these days is pretty much only Disney princess nonsense which is why so many have closed, but in the '90s, they had shirts of almost every thing available from Dumbo to Pooh to the villains and so on. The '90s may have been when they first started marketing the villains together similar to the princesses? At least, there was quite a lot of "Divas" merchandise, in particular I had a bed shirt back then that had all the villainesses together and then another one of Cruella with some tag line I can't recall.
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