Wish

[Farerb]

No, I saw A post by your username stating that exact same thing. Please don’t lie to us!

You can go ahead and search for it and link it because I have always said that I'm planning to watch the movie, even here in this thread, and I did. I have nothing to hide.

Good luck.

[PatrickvD]

Asha dressing up as the fairy godmother is a level of executive meddling they’ve not really stooped to in the past. WDAS used to be protected from this type of stuff. That was reserved for DTV’s.

If that’s ‘original’ then I don’t want it.

All of this is just sad. And I was looking forward to Wish. But this is not what audiences want.

[Patricier21]

Asha dressing up as the fairy godmother is a level of executive meddling they’ve not really stooped to in the past. WDAS used to be protected from this type of stuff. That was reserved for DTV’s.

If that’s ‘original’ then I don’t want it.

All of this is just sad. And I was looking forward to Wish. But this is not what audiences want.

But if you watch it within the context of the movie, you’ll find it doesn’t seem immediately obvious, it is not any kind of “meddling”. It’s more sad that you and others are this picky and bothered by this kind of thing when it should not bother you, I mean what’s the difference between this and enchanted/disenchanted, Chip and dale reference rangers? This felt way more Disney and way less executive mandatory than any of those, especially the latter there

[Patricier21]

No, I saw A post by your username stating that exact same thing. Please don’t lie to us!

You can go ahead and search for it and link it because I have always said that I'm planning to watch the movie, even here in this thread, and I did. I have nothing to hide.

Good luck.

From a lot of your posts, you make it seem like you’ve never actually did it or just going by what the majority thinks like you have with other movies. You also didn’t deny me whenever I said that you may very well have watched it online and not even paid for it

[Mooky]

FFS, just let people like OR dislike the movie as they please, and stop hounding them across the internet. You'd think a few of you here have personal stakes in Disney the way you not only pile up on anyone who expresses any type of legitimate criticism of them and their products, but also jump to defend every questionable storytelling choice. It's annoying and it's getting old. And this is coming from someone who enjoyed Wish for the most part.

[Thumper_93]

If that’s supposed to be a joke, I don’t find it very funny.

I'm tired of disney adults, how is a joke say that the movie is a massive flop, it's literally a massive flop opening even lower than Encanto in 2021 with the pandemic

The movie is a flop and it's a fact. Last monday it made 745$. Trolls made 616$ but it was released sooner. Imagine Wish's Numbers in a few weeks…

[carolinakid]

Mooky...

I can’t understand why certain posters here won’t let others express their opinions without attacking them.

I couldn’t care less if you either like or dislike something Disney puts out. All opinions should be able to be expressed without fear of bullying or personal attack.

[carolinakid]

Wish is flopping so badly it wouldn’t surprise me if Disney were to pull it out of theaters before Christmas to save money AND humiliation!

[UmbrellaFish]

FFS, just let people like OR dislike the movie as they please, and stop hounding them across the internet. You'd think a few of you here have personal stakes in Disney the way you not only pile up on anyone who expresses any type of legitimate criticism of them and their products, but also jump to defend every questionable storytelling choice. It's annoying and it's getting old. And this is coming from someone who enjoyed Wish for the most part.

I agree 100%!

[tsom]

It wasn’t executed well in the writing or storytelling, but Asha is supposed to be the world’s first fairy godmother. That’s where the whole movie was leading up to, hence why she wore Cinderella’s fairy godmothers cloak. It wasn’t executive meddling, whatever that means.

[tsom]

WDW Pro has an interesting you tube video about several animators coming forward to tell how Wish was taken over by activists who turned it from charming to propaganda.

This is 100% not true. Y’all are gonna have to stop watching these YouTube videos that only spew lies. Even if it was true (which it isn’t), what exactly is there in Wish that could be relayed to propaganda or activism?

[Farerb]

The filmmakers themselves described Asha as an activist:
https://youtu.be/Ys4vp9ruUUU?feature=shared

[PatchofBlue]

People do want original stories but they don’t want to pay for it. They wait till they can watch new movies on Disney+ for free. I’ve always said that releasing the new movies a few months later on digital platforms is a big mistake. I understand that they need new content for it but they are harming themselves and loosing too much money.

I agree. I feel like people are giving themselves too much credit over things like "Barbenheimer" when there have been multiple solid non-franchise films released this year (e.g. The Creator) that have flopped because they don't have priority.

[Elladorine]

WDW Pro has an interesting you tube video about several animators coming forward to tell how Wish was taken over by activists who turned it from charming to propaganda.

What “propaganda” is embedded in Wish? I think the movie is pretty safe overall, though I did like its implication we’re all made of stardust.

This is 100% not true. Y’all are gonna have to stop watching these YouTube videos that only spew lies. Even if it was true (which it isn’t), what exactly is there in Wish that could be relayed to propaganda or activism?

I watched the video and felt it mostly offered pretty vague statements that implied RIGHT CONSERVATIVE VALUES = GOOD and LEFT WOKE IDEOLOGY = BAD without giving any specific examples of what the activists supposedly did to alter the film’s direction. And with that being said, I’m so freakin’ sick of every little thing in existence being turned into a polarized political debate. One of the few statements that wasn’t actually vague (and bothered me incredibly) was their opinion that John Lasseter’s absence is what triggered the downfall of Disney’s moral values … as if anyone would want to emulate the moral values his “missteps” offered the company (and this is coming from someone who admired him before the allegations became public).

The only “propaganda” I could possibly see them pulling from it is that the main character isn’t white, but they failed to mention even that much. I also didn’t notice any LGBTQ+ characters that certain groups have been freaking out over in other recent Disney films, as this is usually one of the first topics that will be jumped on when it comes to getting worked up over nothing.

While I definitely said I enjoyed the film in a previous post, I also made sure to recognize that it has flaws. If anything, the film played it too safe and was perhaps too bland, so again I’m not seeing where any propaganda would fit into the narrative. Maybe the suggestion that we’re all made from stardust is anti-Christian to them? I don’t know. Are they angry Asha didn’t have a love interest? Did they want her to be a damsel in distress like in the good ol’ days?

On another note, I’m quite shocked that this whole debacle has sort of become the new Emoji Movie. Now I’m not saying that movie is great, but it’s not nearly as bad as all the critics, influencers, and practically anyone with an opinion behind a keyboard made it out to be upon its release. Like with Wish, it seems many are all too eager to jump on the bandwagon like it’s a contest of who can most sensationally and aggressively bash the film in the most mean-spirited way possible. Because what I keep seeing over and over again is not that it’s a mediocre or even a poor film (which is all personal opinion of course), but that IT’S THE WORST DISNEY FILM OF ALL TIME!!! People aren’t just unhappy with the villain, they HATE him because HE’S THE WORST DISNEY VILLAIN OF ALL TIME!!! The music isn’t just boring, trite, or unmemorable (again it’s all opinion), rather because IT’S THE WORST DISNEY SOUNDTRACK EVER MADE!!! And perhaps my favorite point, THIS MOVIE IS A SIGN THAT THE WHOLE DISNEY COMPANY IS SELF-DESTRUCTING and they apparently can’t wait to delight in watching it crash and burn. Here’s an actual comment I saw that’s a typical example: Disney is synonymous with failure. I would love to see people start using the word "Disney" for mistakes, failure, etc. "I accidentally set the oven to 450° instead of 350° and totally Disneyed that cake." "I didn't study and I totally Disneyed that biology quiz." Just … what?!

Then again, I suppose the extreme bashing (as opposed to actual thought-out, constructive criticisms) is the easiest way to feel intellectually superior..

[megustajake]

I've noticed the campaign against Disney, too. It's just silly and both sides of the political divide are to blame. It's trendy to hate Disney at the moment, but it'll pass. I personally want to see Disney rebound, but I want them to work for it. There will always be haters: part of Disney's problem is they've tried too hard to please everyone, not offend anyone, and as a result they've diluted their brand and their storytelling.

It's such a difficult and weird time for the film industry, too. I work in it, so I unfortunately know from personal experience. Who knows how studios are going to adjust to keep up. Spending $200 million per project isn't sustainable, though.

[Elladorine]

megustajake, I agree. The political divide is awful right now. Everything comes and goes in waves, and I do hope Disney comes out of this slump by working for it rather than wallowing in the past and trying to please everyone.

I can’t imagine having any sense of direction working in the movie industry right now, and I hope things can soon stabilize for people like you. I remember when the pandemic was still in the early days, I had a conversation with a good friend whose wife is a major cinephile. At the time I don’t think much of the general public had any idea of what the impact was going to be on all the daily things we had taken for granted, but she rightly lamented that it was quite likely going to change the entire movie industry with theaters being closed down for an unknown period. “How will it affect the Oscars? Are they going to release new movies for streaming only? Will people even want to pay for that? Are studios going to need to slash budgets or close down entirely? And will larger home screens with streaming kill theaters for good, etc. etc.” Given your livelihood, I know you have a better grasp than anyone here that the industry needs to constantly evolve with the times, perhaps even moreso today than ever.

I suppose only time will tell.

[Pokenonbinary]

Just watched Wish

The movie is very average, what I expected.

Doesn't deserve to be hated because it's as average as Frozen 2 or Encanto but I understand the hate

The animation was so god damn ugly, some parts looked good but as a whole it looked like unfinished CGI, I hope they delete that art style from DSA for eternity.

The representation was fine, the architecture, diversity, food (I saw a paella, moorish teas, manchego cheese among other dishes) and environment was well made

The clothes were horrible, nothing like the real Al Andalus, just generic and boring medieval outfits, specially the Teens.

In the concept arts Asha has more authentic outfits that fit the Period of time and also her ethnicity (or ethnicities)

I like the king and queen outfits because they're the most close to the real culture (Amaya is basically La Dama De Elche)

I also hate how all actors didn't knew spanish, they pronounced all the spanish words and names with the worst pronunciation possible, except Gabo voice actor (the one from What We Do In The Shadows) who I assume actually speaks Spanish

The city/Kingdom of Rosas suffers from the classic problem of Script demands, sometimes its super big and sometimes its a small town with 300 citizens that you can run from one point to another in 30 minutes, like literally the entire city can fit inside a small plaza, and also Asha runs from the city to her village in not really long, plus the boat ride being so short

I also hate the classic "we are all friends in the end" with the traitor teen, or Amaya not having any royal friend to talk with (like nobody was in the royal court apart from Magnifico and Amaya)

What I would have made to make the movie good:

First the songs, very mediocre

Second the animation, either 2D or the classic good CGI

Third I would have been authentic to the culture instead of just old classic orientalism

And also I would have made the movie longer, make Asha and Valentino go with her grandpa and mom to Spain, make months pass, then have her be 18 and return to Rosas with a plan, then see that Rosas is a dictatorship, then Asha with her plan already made saves the day and so and so

And also make the traitor teen not be forgiven, like in real life, kids need to learn that sometimes you can't forgive people when they do something wrong

Also give Asha a final dress/costume because cmon they were so stupid to not do that to sell more toys

[DisneyFan09]

Hey guys! Here`s my latest addition to my blog about Wish, if you would like to take a look: https://mydisneyanimationanalysis.blogs ... isney.html

[Patricier21]

What “propaganda” is embedded in Wish? I think the movie is pretty safe overall, though I did like its implication we’re all made of stardust.

This is 100% not true. Y’all are gonna have to stop watching these YouTube videos that only spew lies. Even if it was true (which it isn’t), what exactly is there in Wish that could be relayed to propaganda or activism?

I watched the video and felt it mostly offered pretty vague statements that implied RIGHT CONSERVATIVE VALUES = GOOD and LEFT WOKE IDEOLOGY = BAD without giving any specific examples of what the activists supposedly did to alter the film’s direction. And with that being said, I’m so freakin’ sick of every little thing in existence being turned into a polarized political debate. One of the few statements that wasn’t actually vague (and bothered me incredibly) was their opinion that John Lasseter’s absence is what triggered the downfall of Disney’s moral values … as if anyone would want to emulate the moral values his “missteps” offered the company (and this is coming from someone who admired him before the allegations became public).

The only “propaganda” I could possibly see them pulling from it is that the main character isn’t white, but they failed to mention even that much. I also didn’t notice any LGBTQ+ characters that certain groups have been freaking out over in other recent Disney films, as this is usually one of the first topics that will be jumped on when it comes to getting worked up over nothing.

While I definitely said I enjoyed the film in a previous post, I also made sure to recognize that it has flaws. If anything, the film played it too safe and was perhaps too bland, so again I’m not seeing where any propaganda would fit into the narrative. Maybe the suggestion that we’re all made from stardust is anti-Christian to them? I don’t know. Are they angry Asha didn’t have a love interest? Did they want her to be a damsel in distress like in the good ol’ days?

On another note, I’m quite shocked that this whole debacle has sort of become the new Emoji Movie. Now I’m not saying that movie is great, but it’s not nearly as bad as all the critics, influencers, and practically anyone with an opinion behind a keyboard made it out to be upon its release. Like with Wish, it seems many are all too eager to jump on the bandwagon like it’s a contest of who can most sensationally and aggressively bash the film in the most mean-spirited way possible. Because what I keep seeing over and over again is not that it’s a mediocre or even a poor film (which is all personal opinion of course), but that IT’S THE WORST DISNEY FILM OF ALL TIME!!! People aren’t just unhappy with the villain, they HATE him because HE’S THE WORST DISNEY VILLAIN OF ALL TIME!!! The music isn’t just boring, trite, or unmemorable (again it’s all opinion), rather because IT’S THE WORST DISNEY SOUNDTRACK EVER MADE!!! And perhaps my favorite point, THIS MOVIE IS A SIGN THAT THE WHOLE DISNEY COMPANY IS SELF-DESTRUCTING and they apparently can’t wait to delight in watching it crash and burn. Here’s an actual comment I saw that’s a typical example: Disney is synonymous with failure. I would love to see people start using the word "Disney" for mistakes, failure, etc. "I accidentally set the oven to 450° instead of 350° and totally Disneyed that cake." "I didn't study and I totally Disneyed that biology quiz." Just … what?!

Then again, I suppose the extreme bashing (as opposed to actual thought-out, constructive criticisms) is the easiest way to feel intellectually superior..

Couldn’t agree more. Next thing we know, but I hope to God it doesn’t happen, is that Wish is going to sweep up the Razzies. All the more reason for them as well as the founder and people behind them to finally be taken as they should never have existed in the first place. Do you not agree that to a degree that things like this are the reason why we still have conflict in the world? I imagine a world without things like the Razzies; would there be as much conflict going on with Israel, Ukraine etc. if we didn’t keep encouraging this kind of mindset?

[Marce82]

Hold on a second... don't know if this had been brought up before. Asha's grandfather is turning 100... at what age did he give his wish to the King??? Cause the king isn't THAT old...

Did grandpa give his wish to the king when he was.... 75? 90? How old was the king when he received this wish??? Did he not try to accomplish his wish in the 70+ years before?

Hmmm... plot hole?