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Disney used to own the Thanksgiving box office. ‘Wish’ is trying to win it back
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/21/disney- ... ffice.html

Disney and Movie Theaters Really Need ‘Wish’ to Be a Box Office Hit
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-wish-box ... y-weekend/
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Farerb wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:33 pm
Farerb wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:24 pm At All Costs was obviously written as a love duet between Asha and the Star (as human) and they repurposed it for something else in the movie (they changed the original lyrics "love you" to "promise"):
https://youtu.be/g3aZp2QplvQ?si=AAdUyn5mHoFm_cSE
I would have loved seeing this movie:
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A romance with a sparkly star man???? Omg…

I understand backing away from romance for a little bit, but the last one was Frozen, right? 10 years ago. And that was a mega hit.
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Farerb wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:33 pm
Farerb wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:24 pm At All Costs was obviously written as a love duet between Asha and the Star (as human) and they repurposed it for something else in the movie (they changed the original lyrics "love you" to "promise"):
https://youtu.be/g3aZp2QplvQ?si=AAdUyn5mHoFm_cSE
I would have loved seeing this movie:
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And to think I could’ve had a new OTP…
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UmbrellaFish wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:47 pmA romance with a sparkly star man???? Omg…

I understand backing away from romance for a little bit, but the last one was Frozen, right? 10 years ago. And that was a mega hit.
But was it supposed to be a romance or was it merely platonic in nature? To me, their relationship seems similar to that of Raya and human Sisu. I haven't seen any evidence indicating otherwise. In fact, we do know that in the one of the two versions where Star was going to have a human form, he's described as a Genie-type character and that type is not love interest material and in the other he was to be a young version of her dead grandfather.
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It would have been interesting to see a human star and a romantic subplot…however, something like that has been done in Stardust. But regarding the end, it could have fitted, Asha finding love with star, star decides to stay on earth or even bolder; Asha decides to join star in the sky..
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I just saw my second screening of Wish; it was more enjoyable this time because the Easter eggs were to be expected and not a surprise (but my friend a few times pointed them out...). I think it's really enjoyable. I still laughed at the same things I did last week, and still felt sad and excited.
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Sotiris wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:24 pm Trolls 3 got an A. :scratch:
Probably because James Corden wasn’t in it.
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When I saw it, I wasn’t even trying to find Easter Eggs or references. But I will say when I saw or heard any, they definitely put a smile on my face.
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Farerb wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:46 pm
DisneyJedi wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:38 pm Not sure how much would have changed if Star were human, other than the inclusion of a romantic subplot. But I’m pleased with the route they went.
First, he would have been an actual character and not just an emoji.

Second, there are other changes I think they should have made, like removing all the useless teens and the farting goat, and make the relationship between Asha and her grandfather stronger.
I wouldn’t call the teens “useless”, they were able to help Asha quite a bit during the course of the movie, not to mention adding on a sense of community and different points of you :-) “farting goat”? He didn’t even do that once! And I honestly don’t know how you could’ve made that relationship stronger when it really was the heart and anchor of the entire movie!

Anyways, here’s my out of theatre reaction: https://youtube.com/shorts/9YlRf7nAsmg? ... ztNjvrWW47
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DisneyJedi wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:07 pm When I saw it, I wasn’t even trying to find Easter Eggs or references. But I will say when I saw or heard any, they definitely put a smile on my face.
I wasn't necessarily going out of my way looking for Easter eggs the first time, but they took me out of the story for a second when they were on screen. I still don't like the bear, John, calling the deer "Bambi" (unless "Bambi" is the "Jason and Brittany" {Hercules reference*... popular names} of the deer world, it doesn't make sense, since that's not *the* Bambi...); and I don't love "Peter" at the end. I can't currently think of any other Easter eggs that I just didn't like. On paper, I don't love that the Teens are based on the dwarfs because it seems distracting, but in the film I think it's fine how the Teens turned out and I really do like them as characters.

*Not a Hercules reference in Wish! Just meaning that unless "Bambi" is a popular name in the deer world, this joke doesn't make sense except trying to make the audience laugh...you get my point! #IAmSleepDeprived
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They should have made a romance because people have been asking for one for 10 years, even if it was a straight romance (Ariana is queer so some people assumed that maybe Disney would make her the first openly queer princess, for this way to not touch Elsa since she's so popular)

They did the villain return for popular demand, why not the romance
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Thanksgiving Box Office Battle Heats Up: Disney’s ‘Wish’ Struggling Against ‘Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes’
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/than ... 235807997/
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I’m not trying to be doom and gloom, but you guys don’t think Wish will be a flop, do you? :huh:
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Elladorine wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:51 pm
Sotiris wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:24 pm Trolls 3 got an A. :scratch:
Probably because James Corden wasn’t in it.
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DisneyJedi wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:09 pm I’m not trying to be doom and gloom, but you guys don’t think Wish will be a flop, do you? :huh:
Girl we know it's a flop since last month, the 50M projections were already total flop but now it will probably open under 30M, A MSSIVE FLOP

Many people will get fired for sure
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Pokenonbinary wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:13 pm
DisneyJedi wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:09 pm I’m not trying to be doom and gloom, but you guys don’t think Wish will be a flop, do you? :huh:
Girl we know it's a flop since last month, the 50M projections were already total flop but now it will probably open under 30M, A MSSIVE FLOP

Many people will get fired for sure
If that’s supposed to be a joke, I don’t find it very funny.
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The new Hunger Games was such a pleasant surprise - I’d love to see it win the Thanksgiving box office, in its second week no less.

It’s time Disney gave itself a hard look in the mirror. They’ve been relying on their brands to win audiences instead of prioritizing quality and consistency. Public trust is at a low. I want to see them do better.
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Just got out of the theatre! It’s really cute, I enjoyed it. I find as I’ve gotten older, I’ve really come to appreciate the artistry behind Snow White and Sleeping Beauty more and more and the fact that this movie is so inspired by those films aesthetically… I did find it very beautiful and cozy. It felt almost like a Disney fairytale should.

Star and Valentino are great sidekicks and Ariana DeBose was a great choice to voice a Disney heroine. I did not feel like the references were overdone— I think a lot of them only hardcore Disney fans will notice. It’s not the strongest musical in the Disney canon, but none of the songs are bad and a number of them are ear worms.

I love a storybook opening but per tradition it really should have been shot in live action. I’m not sure we really needed the teens as they were written in the film— they maybe needed a little more development. I feel the same about the Queen— she felt like a darling that should have been killed in the writing process. The finale with Magnifico felt like a true Disney ending, but I also feel like Magnifico should have been straight up evil from the beginning. Maleficent cursed a baby to death because she didn’t get an invite! The best Disney villains aren’t just shady guys who maybe do some bad along with some good… they are rotten to the core! They were so close to writing a great villain here…

Overall, I enjoyed it and I look forward to rewatching if only to catch any/all the references I missed. I have purposely not spoiled myself on the references so I’m eager to read Amy’s and other reports which detail them!

I loved that a Mary Poppins reference was immediately followed by a Little Mermaid reference!!

Ooh!! I was iffy about the animation style from the trailers and at first I found it distracting, but eventually I didn’t really notice it anymore. The backgrounds were very beautiful.
Mickey Mouse- a pen under Star's magic started drawing the Mickey silhouette; at the end, fireworks are in the classic Mickey shape
Do you think the pen drawing Mickey’s silhouette was also a reference to the famous Disney Channel logo commercials? Maybe I am reading too much, but I imagine many artists at Disney nowadays also grew up with that era of Disney Channel. And the shape was almost the same as how they drew the silhouette in those commercials?

[quote]Sleeping Beauty- Aurora's blue dress in a wish bubble; green magic; Asha dancing with woodland animals on top of each other[/quote]

Do you think Star first appearing in the long johns was a reference to the woodland animals wearing Prince Philip’s clothes?

[quote]Beauty and the Beast- I'm pretty sure there was a reference but I can't think of it[/quote]

I do not remember any BATB references but surely it must have had some? Maybe the suits of armor? Idk.

[quote]The Lion King- Valentino says where balls of gas come from[/quote]

I think at the end of Knowing What We Know Now, one of the Teens holds Valentino up ala Simba


I’ll add two references I mentioned above:

Mary Poppins- Magnifico says someone’s dream is to “have a perfect nanny who watches their horrible children” and he says he’s “popping” their dream

The Little Mermaid- after the Poppins line, he squashes the dream of someone whose wish is to find true love and as he does so he says “So much for true love!” a line from Ursula during the finale.


Snow White- Magnifico’s punishment at the end of the film is a reference to the Magic Mirror (although it doesn’t really look like a mirror, Amaya refers to it as such). Also, I need the 4K or Disney+ to confirm this, but I’m pretty sure in the split second when Magnifico is sucked into the mirror we see the face of Magic Mirror from Snow White. Maybe? I need to pause to be sure.
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Farerb wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:33 pm
Farerb wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:24 pm At All Costs was obviously written as a love duet between Asha and the Star (as human) and they repurposed it for something else in the movie (they changed the original lyrics "love you" to "promise"):
https://youtu.be/g3aZp2QplvQ?si=AAdUyn5mHoFm_cSE
I would have loved seeing this movie:
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See the only thing stopping me from fully buying this idea is that the only references to Star as a young boy in the art book, at least the page I have access to which shows that concept art, refer to him as being the embodiment and taking on the appearance of a younger Sabino. And I really can't see Disney making a romance out of that.
DisneyJedi wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:09 am So a couple of nitwits (I have another name to call them, but I’m not because I want to keep things PG here) decided to ruffle some feathers on Reddit and Twitter by pointing out references from the ending and claiming that because of the references, that means Wish is “canonically” a prequel to the Disney movies the references are made to. And because of said nitwits, people are up in arms. People these days… :|
I know exactly the post you're talking about. It's really annoying how nowadays people try to make a cinematic universe out of everything. Nothing can just be a reference or an easter egg any more :roll: It reminds me of when Frozen first came out and you had people convinced that Elsa and Anna's parents were also Tarzan's parents making him their lost brother, and also that their sunken ship is the same one in the Little Mermaid that Ariel explores.
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See, the King and Queen’s ship being the same one Ariel explores I can buy more than Tarzan being Elsa and Anna’s brother. Or at least, I would have until Frozen 2.

But I digress.
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