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So apparently Wish has an RT score of 58% right now when it started the day with 64%. Honestly, I’m still seeing it tomorrow, but that kind of score doesn’t come off as encouraging, especially for Disney standards. :(
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Agreed. The review score is not promising. Then again, critical reaction doesn't seem to indicate financial success. Case in point: The Super Mario Bros Movie, which got mixed reviews, just like Wish did. It turned out to be a major smash hit. Elemental, same situation. It started off weak, then got better as it went along.

I can't say for sure how Wish is going to go, but all the talk of it flopping on BoxOffice Reddit is pretty mind-numbing. I also wasn't thrilled with the review score, so that lowers my expectations, too. Still, maybe I'll end up liking it just fine. It does look at least considerably different from Disney's usual style of CG animation, and close in tone to 2D animation, so that does have some appeal for me, but I won't be thrilled if this turns out to be another Ralph Wrecks The Internet. That film was the most embarrassing I had ever seen from Disney since Home on the Range, and I refused to see any more of their CG films on account of that. This one at least has more style to it, and luckily it doesn't seem to be a commercial for Disney disguised as a feature like Ralph was. So I can at least give credit for it.
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This is going to be a massive flop sorry guys

Mario was a big IP and people didn't cared about the movie being awful, and Elemental got bad reviews at first by european critics not USA critics

The Wish reviews are the definitive ones, it's joever

The only thing we can hope is that audience enjoy the movie but it's unlikely because cmon the critics reviews are so bad, even worse than Strange World
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I still think it will do well (at least $500 million). This is the kind of film Disney fans love, especially if they reference a different Disney movie every two minutes, fans love fan service. I expect it to receive A or A- CinemaScore and 85+ audience score on RT.
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I expected the hunger games prequel to get a A- because post track number were really good but still got a B+

Wish isn't safe, but I hope it is, I'm so annoying for repeating the same all time but she's based in my country and I'm actually half north african too so I feel connected a little bit to her (but from what I've seen in trailers the movie is not very faithful to the Al Andalus, at least the clothes)

If it flops it can always become a hit in disney plus, Encanto was a massive flop theatrically
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I mentioned The Lego Movie in an earlier post and I’m gonna mention it again. Seeing the increasingly poor critic reviews of Wish being posted online kind of reminds me of the scene in The Lego Movie when Bad Cop and his robot colleagues attack Cloud Cuckoo Land and it ends up on fire and falls into the sea in a genuinely sad montage. In this case, Bad Cop and his robot colleagues = critics and Cloud Cuckoo Land = Wish.
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JTurner wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:21 pmThen again, critical reaction doesn't seem to indicate financial success. Case in point: The Super Mario Bros Movie, which got mixed reviews, just like Wish did. It turned out to be a major smash hit. Elemental, same situation. It started off weak, then got better as it went along.
Elemental was not the same situation. It had stronger-than-expected legs given how weak it opened, but it still only grossed less than $500 million worldwide making it the #17 highest-grossing, theatrically-released Pixar film out of the 24. And that's not even taking inflation into account. I'm tired of Disney and Hollywood trying to gaslight us into believing that Elemental was a box office hit. It was not.
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These reviews are horrible. This is the kind of movie WDAS used to churn out and knock out of the park quite easily. I thought Wish looked pretty good but the more I see of it the last two weeks the more it feels like Disney Jr. level quality. Like the movie was written by the marketing department. And the songs are not it.

That’s two duds back to back. I think Jennifer Lee is in over her head. She’s heading into her sixth year leading the studio and it feels like a ship with no captain. There’s no amount of double Frozen that will be able to fix this. They need new leadership.
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The animation is so god damn ugly, I hate that they tried to experiment animation styles in this movie and not Strange World

I don't like the trend of copying Spiderverse, just make your style Disney

Anyways I wanna be positive but those bad reviews confirm my worse predictions
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I’m so damn tired of seeing people knocking Wish’s animation style. It’s always “It looks half-finished, this” and “It doesn’t look fully rendered, that.”

Good grief, people are complete hypocrites. They praise Dreamworks and Sony to the high heavens when they do stylized CGI-animated films, but when Disney does it with Wish, they nitpick the hell out of it. And they wonder why Disney is “playing it safe” with sequels and remakes, which I’m kind of getting tired of only seeing from the company. :x

Genuinely, I hope that, despite what critics have to say about it, Wish ends up being a box office hit. Mainly because I want to see the naysayers eat their own words.
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Pokenonbinary wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:56 am I don't like the trend of copying Spiderverse, just make your style Disney
They aren't copying Spider-Verse. It doesn't look anything like it.
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Sotiris wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:18 am
JTurner wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:21 pmThen again, critical reaction doesn't seem to indicate financial success. Case in point: The Super Mario Bros Movie, which got mixed reviews, just like Wish did. It turned out to be a major smash hit. Elemental, same situation. It started off weak, then got better as it went along.
Elemental was not the same situation. It had stronger-than-expected legs given how weak it opened, but it still only grossed less than $500 million worldwide making it the #17 highest-grossing, theatrically-released Pixar film out of the 24. And that's not even taking inflation into account. I'm tired of Disney and Hollywood trying to gaslight us into believing that Elemental was a box office hit. It was not.
It made a small profit.
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I already have tickets for Thanksgiving but I just bought a ticket for sneak peak at 4pm today! I'm so excited!
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Mooky wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:42 pm
ElMaximo13 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:45 am This review confirms that the movie has a storybook opening: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 49335.html
Why exactly? It's an original story with fairytale elements, not based on a pre-existing material.
So is Enchanted.
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DisneyJedi wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:15 am I’m so damn tired of seeing people knocking Wish’s animation style. It’s always “It looks half-finished, this” and “It doesn’t look fully rendered, that.”

Good grief, people are complete hypocrites. They praise Dreamworks and Sony to the high heavens when they do stylized CGI-animated films, but when Disney does it with Wish, they nitpick the hell out of it. And they wonder why Disney is “playing it safe” with sequels and remakes, which I’m kind of getting tired of only seeing from the company. :x

Genuinely, I hope that, despite what critics have to say about it, Wish ends up being a box office hit. Mainly because I want to see the naysayers eat their own words.
That will depend on how audiences respond to the film. I certainly don't have high hopes, but I'm hoping that I will at least enjoy it. I am planning to see it on Wednesday next week to decide for myself. I refuse to believe that this film is anywhere nearly as bad as Ralph Wrecks The Internet and Home on the Range. Those two are rock-bottom Disney as far as I am concerned.
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Complaining about lots of Disney references being shown in a movie that's made to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Walt Disney Company is like complaining about plants being green. What's the point?
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Some review for Wish came out, a lot of people liked it saying that it captures the magical feels of Disney. They said that the movie is fast and simple, but they really enjoyed it regardless. The one didn't enjoy it didn't like Valentino and claimed that the characters are one dimensional. Maybe the movie won't be as groundbreaking as Hunchback of Notre Dame or the Little mermaid, but its best to watch the movie yourself to form your own opinion.
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I saw Wish a few hours ago. I loved it. I felt like I had already watched a lot of it due to the clips released but there was still a lot of excitement.

Magnifico is great. It felt satisfying having a villain again for sure.

I love Asha. She has a big heart. I love Dahlia too. All the Teens ended up being good characters.

Valentino and Star got lots of laughs in my pretty-full theater.

I really like the songs. I already did but it was exciting seeing them with the visuals.

The end credits did not give a clue of what the next film will be that I saw.



I started getting concerned about Easter eggs - there felt like a lot in the very beginning; I'm sure I forgot some in my list below. But it eased up and I could focus on the story.

The movie got really exciting as Magnifico got more and more evil. With
(major spoiler) The Teens in addition to Asha being wanted.

Most of the DACs were represented in the credits (remember how the Star-outline of Yzma was posted here). I think the only movies not represented were most package films (SA, T3C, MMM, F&FF, MT), The Rescuers/TRDU, The Black Cauldron, Meet the Robinsons, (while Fantasia 2000 was represented, Winnie the Pooh, Ralph Breaks the Internet, and Frozen II were not).

Easter eggs that I remembered when I came home:

Mickey Mouse- a pen under Star's magic started drawing the Mickey silhouette; at the end, fireworks are in the classic Mickey shape

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs- opening card was similar to SW's; poisoned apple in Magnifico's room; wishing well; mine car Asha travels in; Asha's cottage (on the outside); Asha calls Dahlia the Doctor of advice or something like that

Pinocchio - Saba plays "When You Wish Upon a Star" on his lute(?) in the post-credits scene

Bambi - the bear called the deer "Bambi;" a rabbit thumped his foot

Cinderella- Asha doing the transformation pose near the end; a large apple (instead of a large pumpkin); Fairy Godmother outfit; magic wand;
Pretty big spoiler: Asha becomes the fairy godmother of Rosas at the end thanks to Star.

Alice in Wonderland- singing flowers/mushrooms I suppose

Peter Pan- at the end a guy named Peter dressed similarly to Pan wants to invent a flying machine; a silhouette of Peter flying in a wish bubble; Magnifico says something about "NeverLand," but as an action, not as a place

Sleeping Beauty- Aurora's blue dress in a wish bubble; green magic; Asha dancing with woodland animals on top of each other

Beauty and the Beast- I'm pretty sure there was a reference but I can't think of it

The Lion King- Valentino says where balls of gas come from

Treasure Planet (or Peter Pan)- there was a ship in a wish bubble... didn't look like the RLS Legacy so idk

Tangled- I doubt Magnifico's room being in the tower is a reference to Tangled...

Frozen- "We love crazy" said by the mushrooms

Zootopia- at the end, Valentino said he "wished" (not a wish bubble or anything) or wanted a metropolis where all mammals are equal and wear clothes

Frozen II- pack of deer around Asha reminded me of "Lost in the Woods;" I think there was another reference but I think it had to do with the deer...so similar
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Hardbackyoyo wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:51 am
Mooky wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:42 pm
Why exactly? It's an original story with fairytale elements, not based on a pre-existing material.
So is Enchanted.
Except Enchanted was very obviously fairytale-adjacent and characters like the seven dwarfs and Little Red Riding Hood were native to Andalasia.
Hardbackyoyo wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:42 am Complaining about lots of Disney references being shown in a movie that's made to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Walt Disney Company is like complaining about plants being green. What's the point?
Maybe because then it's less of an actual movie and more of a 90-minute greatest hits compilation? :shrug:
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I also saw it today and was unfortunately very underwhelmed. The marketing was fairly successful on me, so I had already bought into “This Wish” and Asha and Star as legacy characters. But the script is an absolute mess and everything about the production just felt so lazy.

I did like a couple of scenes: the Wish Reprise was successfully moving even if the story didn’t quite earn it, and At All Costs worked well to establish Asha and Magnifico’s characters.

Knowing What I Know Now, a song I did like from the soundtrack, barely works at all — it’s actually laughable how rushed the citizens’ revolution was and felt.

I live in Los Angeles where audiences are usually pretty attentive/respectful but this screening was an absolute nightmare. A lot of walk outs, a lot of people checking their phones and attending to their restless children. I will admit that might’ve impacted my enjoyment to some degree, but given I love Disney’s other female-driven musicals, this has to be one of my greatest disappointments in them ever.
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