Wish

[Farerb]

I calculated and the movie currently has 3.1/5 on Letterboxd. Might be a good indication of what to expect tomorrow when the embargo is lifted.

[Musical Master]

The rest of the songs are already available in new Zealand:

At All Costs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXz8qtsiI1E

This Wish (Reprise)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXOIG0v4vIE

A Wish Worth Making
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsewoSvdMqM

I'm going to save the reprise for this Saturday when I see the movie, but surprised to see it's 2:45! Usually reprises are under a minute. Exciting!

Love At All Costs! It does sound like a love duet but I'm assuming there's a twist: maybe they're singing to the wishes? It's probably my favorite song yet.

I can't wait to hear the other two songs tomorrow when the soundtrack releases; "At All Costs" sounds like a wonderful song among the other really good ones. I will say that to me, "This Is The Thanks I Get" is the weakest, but I still really enjoy it for what it is. I honestly think that it's a better villain song than "Mother Knows Best".

[Almofadinhas]

I can't hear the 3 remaining songs yet but I'm so eager for "At All Costs"! From all the others released so far, "Knowing What I know Now" is definitely my favourite.

[megustajake]

I calculated and the movie currently has 3.1/5 on Letterboxd. Might be a good indication of what to expect tomorrow when the embargo is lifted.

Reactions seem pretty polarizing: people seem to either love it or hate it. Disney is going through some backlash at the moment, so hard to tell if it's just easy to hate on.

Here's a compilation of reviews so far, the good and the bad: https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topi ... /#comments

[D82]

The links now work in Spain and I guess other European countries. Spain's version of the end credit song has been released as well.

At All Costs
This Wish (Reprise)
A Wish Worth Making

Here are also an official clip of Ariana DeBose performing "This Wish" at Disneyland, two more videos about "Knowing What I Know Now" and the song poster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYYnNvSrfSU
https://twitter.com/DisneyWishMovie/sta ... 7010514162



Source: https://twitter.com/DisneyWishMovie/sta ... 2618217825

Really? As for me, I don`t dislike that kind of music, but the thing is that I don`t see them in the Disney Fairy Tale Universe. Such songs usually feels too slight to be in a Disney Universe and therefore not particularly suitable. However, it doesn`t mean that songs that aren`t Broadway shouldn`t be in Disney animated features. They just need to work within that universe.

I get what you mean and I agree. Well, to be honest, I've never seen High School Musical or any of its sequels and TV series, but I remember hearing part of the songs from it and other Disney Channel movies from the early 2000s in trailers or music videos and thinking all sounded the same. But if I listened to all the songs, maybe I would like some of them.

I agree this one is for now the best song yet and it gave me strong "Ready as Ill ever be" vibes from the Tangled Series (but I like RAIEB wayyy more sounds more timeless)

It reminded me of "Ready as I'll ever be" too. Also of "Savages" from Pocahontas, which is a preparing-for-battle kind of song as well. Personally, I don't love it, but it's better than I expected based on the snippets we had gotten.

[MoonMarc21]

I LOVE "At All Costs"! Easily my favorite song in the whole movie! Almost made me cry because of how beautiful it sounds And Ariana DeBose and Chris Pine's singing top-notch!

Here's how I'd rank the songs, like all of them but love only one, you guys already know what it is:

1. At All Costs
2. This Wish
3. Knowing What I Know Now
4. A Wish Worth Making-I thought it would be a generic pop song but holy cow, I did not expect that it would be lovely ballad! A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
5. This Wish (Reprise)-Like that it put some of the score in the song, really makes you feel the intensity of the situation and I also love when you feel a character's despair or rise to power in a reprise.
6. This Is The Thanks I Get?!-Like that it is different from what you'd think a villain song should sound like but if I rank all of the villain songs, this would be the lowest.
7. Welcome to Rosas-Very catchy but it's too short and it feels like it's only there for expositioning reasons.
8. I'm A Star- Like what the song's message is about but it sounds so cringey and there are so many words cluttered in one line. Seriously, why put shareholder, closure, exitetory in a Disney song, it sounds like "A Place Called Slaughter Race" witch I actually like because it's making fun of what's happening but here, it's supposed to be taken seriously. How I'm I supposed to do that with those words there?!

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

I calculated and the movie currently has 3.1/5 on Letterboxd. Might be a good indication of what to expect tomorrow when the embargo is lifted.

Interesting.

Raya and the Last Dragon and Pixar’s Elemental have a 3.3/5 on Letterboxd and they have “A” CinemaScores.

Frozen 2 has a 3.1/5 on Letterboxd and that has an “A-“ CinemaScore.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi has a 3.0/5 and yet that one has an “A CinemaScore.

And both Ralph Breaks The Internet and Strange World have a 2.9/5 on Letterboxd, however the former has an “A-“ while the latter has a “B” on CinemaScore.

It’ll be interesting to see the CinemaScore that Wish gets.

I feel like Disney wants those Early Advance Screenings on Saturday and Sunday (the latter for only US D23 members subbed to Disney+) to happen to see if they can ensure or try to make sure that Wish’s CinemaScore is “A” so they can show that the audience likes it better than the critics and that could help benefit its legs at the box office.

Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

[Farerb]

Strange World was the only Disney Animation film to receive a B CinemaScore. I doubt Wish will receive the same score. In my opinion, it'll get an A. Critics might be tough on it, but I think this is exactly the kind of film Disney fans want.

[Pokenonbinary]

Animated kids movies 99% of the time get A+ to A-

An A- is even considered bad for the type of movie

Isn't Strange World one of the lowest kids animated movies of all time, not just Disney?

Cinemascore works with the enjoyment of audiences, that's why we always see (in general) scores from A to B and rarely C or D, because audiences tend to be more positive than critics

Wish will get a A most likely and at worse a A-

I love the end credits song, my favorite

At all costs is great and This Wish reprise is better than the normal version, they're gonna end the movie with a "unite all the hearts" type of ending like in magical girls animes, and I love magical girl animes

[UmbrellaFish]

“Knowing What I Know Now” is an entirely new kind of Disney song, huh? It’s a sort of angry, sort of righteous song. Like an anthem or protest. It’s a good song. The soundtrack overall has me a little more excited for the film. It here are enough songs I think are great and enough that are good.

I think my family is going to see Napoleon on Thanksgiving (love a historical epic), but I might see Wish opening weekend, too.

[Musical Master]

I LOVE "At All Costs"! Easily my favorite song in the whole movie! Almost made me cry because of how beautiful it sounds And Ariana DeBose and Chris Pine's singing top-notch!

Here's how I'd rank the songs, like all of them but love only one, you guys already know what it is:

1. At All Costs
2. This Wish
3. Knowing What I Know Now
4. A Wish Worth Making-I thought it would be a generic pop song but holy cow, I did not expect that it would be lovely ballad! A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
5. This Wish (Reprise)-Like that it put some of the score in the song, really makes you feel the intensity of the situation and I also love when you feel a character's despair or rise to power in a reprise.
6. This Is The Thanks I Get?!-Like that it is different from what you'd think a villain song should sound like but if I rank all of the villain songs, this would be the lowest.
7. Welcome to Rosas-Very catchy but it's too short and it feels like it's only there for expositioning reasons.
8. I'm A Star- Like what the song's message is about but it sounds so cringey and there are so many words cluttered in one line. Seriously, why put shareholder, closure, exitetory in a Disney song, it sounds like "A Place Called Slaughter Race" witch I actually like because it's making fun of what's happening but here, it's supposed to be taken seriously. How I'm I supposed to do that with those words there?!

Now that the soundtrack is out and listening to the whole thing, but this time in the order it's in. I'm very impressed with what Julia Michaels and Benjamin Rice put together, considering that they've never wrote a Disney musical before. Julia's pop influence can certainly be heard in several of the songs, but I don't consider it a bad thing necessarily. Honestly, Julia and Benjamin are the best-case scenario Phil Collins where in comparison to him they actually wrote songs that are specific to the characters/moment, and they are sung by the actual characters.

My ranking of the songs looks like this at the moment, it may change when I see the movie.

1. "At All Costs"
2. "Knowing What I Know Now"
3. "This Wish"
4. "This Wish" (Reprise)
5. "I'm a Star"
6. "Welcome to Rosas"
7. "This Is The Thanks I Get"

[Woodrow Pride]

I honestly really don’t like any of Wish’s music. I don’t know anything about Julia Michaels, but especially This Wish sounds like you got a 30-year-old millennial to listen to 80s music, then Lin-Manuel’s How Far I’ll go, then mix some sort of culture music into that, then try to be respectful and calm but fail miserably. The songs lack power in the melodies, harmonies, and even the orchestration (half-excluding This Wish Reprise). All of it sounds like high-budget ambient music that would play in a store.

I don’t understand why people enjoy At All Costs. It was really disappointing. It was just as powerless as the rest of the songs, maybe even more. I mean, out of everyone Disney could’ve possibly gotten to write the music for their 100th year anniversary, they chose a millennial??

I do have some hope for Wish, though. I think it’s really easy to make fun of the story when you’re not immersed in it. I feel like once you’re in the theater, Wish is going to unload its charm on you and you’ll barely notice the fact that it has no motion blur.

My ranking is:

1. This Wish (Reprise)

2. This is The Thanks I Get (Even though it’s a villain song with no minor-sounding parts, it has more of a melody than the rest.)

3. I’m A Star (Very anticlimactic, makes up words and is a tad too long, but it’s okay.)

4. This Wish (… they could really do better with the main song. It feels like they were trying to cram too many words into this song, not to mention the very shallow melody, seemingly forced alliterations and slant rhymes.)

5. Welcome to Rosas (Very shallow melody and very weak lyrics.)

6. At All Costs (The melody is very, very shallow and weak, but the lyrics are less mediocre than the other songs.)

7. A Wish Worth Making (Very terrible, has a very basic melody, but this is her specialty, so it sounds like she actually half-knew what she was doing.)

8. Knowing What I Know Now (This sounds like you got a soundtrack of the last world of a Mario game and added lyrics to it or failed to write a Once and For All (Newsies)-type song.)

I also have a huge problem with the animation (movement) of Wish. There’s this one supposedly “iconic” shot in This Wish where the camera is rotating around Asha as she sings, and she jerks robotically forward. That really ruined the moment. Disney could’ve really, really done better for their 100th anniversary.

[Farerb]

53 on Metacritic:
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/wish/

[Farerb]

Rotten Tomatoes:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wish_2023

I expect it to increase with more reviews coming in.

[Pokenonbinary]

Not another critical flop

I mean honestly from what I read it's the same problems I have from the trailers, forgettable songs, bad animation, forgettable side characters (The Teens) and not a really original story (Easter eggs every 2 minutes)

I hope I like the movie because it's set in my country, but other than that I'm not really super interested in the movie

[Mooky]

Many of the reviews iterate what I feared -- that the movie is more preoccupied with throwing fan service at audiences rather than providing them with a fresh, engaging story.

Tangled was another "big number" release that didn't rely on Easter eggs and actually was a lovely tribute to Disney's past done in a new style. Wish could have done something similar -- use the Disney 100 moniker and references to previous movies in advertising, but have this 100 year legacy be of no consequence to the plot.

[reee9948]

Treasure planet received a 69 percent in rotten tomato and Atlantis 49 percent by the critics. Meanwhile Raya got around a 91 percent and Frozen 2 a 77 percent. I don't really trust the critic reasons for that reason because there are a lot of movies that I love that is hated by the critics. Like I don't understand why they would like Frozen 2 over Treasure Planet and Atlantis.

[ElMaximo13]

This review confirms that the movie has a storybook opening: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 49335.html

[Farerb]

Treasure planet received a 69 percent in rotten tomato and Atlantis 49 percent by the critics. Meanwhile Raya got around a 91 percent and Frozen 2 a 77 percent. I don't really trust the critic reasons for that reason because there are a lot of movies that I love that is hated by the critics. Like I don't understand why they would like Frozen 2 over Treasure Planet and Atlantis.

Critics had higher standards back then than they do now. Rotten Tomatoes added a lot of influencers and YouTubers. I posted it somewhere (but don't remember where) a graph that shows that RT scores have been getting higher than usual in recent years (since 2017 or 2018).

[megustajake]

Treasure planet received a 69 percent in rotten tomato and Atlantis 49 percent by the critics. Meanwhile Raya got around a 91 percent and Frozen 2 a 77 percent. I don't really trust the critic reasons for that reason because there are a lot of movies that I love that is hated by the critics. Like I don't understand why they would like Frozen 2 over Treasure Planet and Atlantis.

Critics had higher standards back then than they do now. Rotten Tomatoes added a lot of influencers and YouTubers. I posted it somewhere (but don't remember where) a graph that shows that RT scores have been getting higher than usual in recent years (since 2017 or 2018).

Yeah, almost everything is “fresh” these days. Mixed or soft negative reviews are often counted as positive, too. I still use it as a barometer but it’s not as useful as it used to be.

I feel like critics are finally pushing Disney to be better. Even if Wish is cute and serviceable, they are capable of more - especially when other animation studios are achieving better results with less resources.