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Well, after seeing the teaser, I must say that I thought it was mostly meh. The settings looks very generic and looks like it`s stepped right out of Puss in Boots franchise. While the style looks mostly CGI, the hand drawn parts of doesn`t look fluidly enough and awkward. Especially the Star, who truly doesn`t mesh with the rest of the style. Valentino`s talking also felt out of place and ruined the flow of the teaser.
It`s remarkable how the tagline is "from the studio that brought you The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella (since most of the Revival trailers have promoted the Revival hits and especially Frozen). However, the things I liked was the song, the part of the little kid running at the beginning, the parts of Asha in the woods and the presentation of the logo. All in all, a underwhelming teaser. I`ll hope that we`ll get a better trailer in the future.
It`s remarkable how the tagline is "from the studio that brought you The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella (since most of the Revival trailers have promoted the Revival hits and especially Frozen). However, the things I liked was the song, the part of the little kid running at the beginning, the parts of Asha in the woods and the presentation of the logo. All in all, a underwhelming teaser. I`ll hope that we`ll get a better trailer in the future.
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I gotta say, despite people’s different opinions and feelings on the animation style, which I still think are as fluid as Paperman, I think this looks exciting and gorgeous and marks a return to form for Disney, especially with the return to a traditional Disney villain, which is why they got Chris Pine in that role.
I hope Disney markets this hard with the next trailer in July with Haunted Mansion, a special look at the film #Disney100 days out, and the final trailer in September/October/November before Paw Patrol 2 and The Marvels.
I think this could be Disney’s next Frozen-level hit, ironic considering it’s coming out on the 10th Anniversary of Frozen and is done by the team who did Frozen, and I hope it is so that Jennifer Lee can keep fighting to get Disney back to hand-drawn animation in Tiana and other future stories for us, especially since Eric Goldberg at D23 teased Disney working on an animated feature film with “A LOT” of hand-drawn animation.
I hope Disney markets this hard with the next trailer in July with Haunted Mansion, a special look at the film #Disney100 days out, and the final trailer in September/October/November before Paw Patrol 2 and The Marvels.
I think this could be Disney’s next Frozen-level hit, ironic considering it’s coming out on the 10th Anniversary of Frozen and is done by the team who did Frozen, and I hope it is so that Jennifer Lee can keep fighting to get Disney back to hand-drawn animation in Tiana and other future stories for us, especially since Eric Goldberg at D23 teased Disney working on an animated feature film with “A LOT” of hand-drawn animation.
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Hm ... I don't know if the animation style was quite ready for feature-length filmmaking, but there's a lot that I like. Asha has a really unique sounding voice for a Disney heroine.
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I like the ~feel~ of the teaser, it definitely reminds me of old school Disney. Very magical. Asha is beautiful. What sounds like a generic introductory narration and then turns into a threat is very well done. Chris Pine is doing a great job.
That said, I'm not sure I like the animation style. It feels very crude and restrictive and... kind of primitive, I'd dare say. Not very fluid at all. It reminds me of older Barbie movies (2001-2006) for some reason. Anyway, it's just a teaser and the final movie may look and feel different, and given this is a new style for Disney it will take some time to get used to it. I'm willing to be open-minded, but I also question the logic of striving to make CG appear hand-drawn, when you could have just made a hand-drawn movie to begin with
Also, I don't like the goat's voice or him wearing a jumpsuit
That said, I'm not sure I like the animation style. It feels very crude and restrictive and... kind of primitive, I'd dare say. Not very fluid at all. It reminds me of older Barbie movies (2001-2006) for some reason. Anyway, it's just a teaser and the final movie may look and feel different, and given this is a new style for Disney it will take some time to get used to it. I'm willing to be open-minded, but I also question the logic of striving to make CG appear hand-drawn, when you could have just made a hand-drawn movie to begin with
Also, I don't like the goat's voice or him wearing a jumpsuit
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The animation looks much like it did in the fantasy cutscenes from Raya and the Last Dragon, albeit more colorful. It's definitely a statement.
Did anyone catch the small scene of what looks like people Flynn Rider-ing it up in the place where the wish bubbles are stored? I wonder if the wishes are a source of energy that people try to steal?
Did anyone catch the small scene of what looks like people Flynn Rider-ing it up in the place where the wish bubbles are stored? I wonder if the wishes are a source of energy that people try to steal?
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I thought the teaser looked promising and the film could be their best film in the last five years. I definitely need to get used to this animation, seems like it's mostly cel shading like Far From the Tree, and it definitely didn't look anything like the classics in my opinion.
I didn't care for the goat as well. It's a shame they didn't think about giving this role to a child and making him more like Flounder, it's kind of awkward that an adult man's voice is coming out of him. I can already tell that he's going to be annoying.
I didn't care for the goat as well. It's a shame they didn't think about giving this role to a child and making him more like Flounder, it's kind of awkward that an adult man's voice is coming out of him. I can already tell that he's going to be annoying.
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I think the teaser definitely made me more interested in Wish, but that “3D/2D” style really isn't my favorite. Since hand-drawn animation can’t have any motion blur, this toon-shaded weirdness is forced to have none as well, which makes it look like some kind of cheap viewport previsualization. Plus, since it has to look “hand-drawn” all surfaces look stripped from detail (also like a viewport previsualization). And it doesn’t even feel/look like hand-drawn because the animation stays at a constant 24 fps.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they used that style to cover the fact that they didn’t have enough time to make the movie. I mean, they started the movie in January of 2022, it’s been just a little over a year. That is definitely not enough time to make a full-quality movie, and I bet animators and pretty much everyone at WDAS are getting squished by deadlines right now (they’ve only been animating for 4 months!!). This movie seems very last-minute. But it’s the story that counts… right?
Edit: I also think the song sounded better in the teaser than it did at the presentation back in September. But that also raises the question: is this the “big” song? If I was smart, I wouldn’t put the main song in the teaser trailer, but then again, who knew that We Don’t Talk About Bruno would become a giant hit? It wasn’t exactly the “main song”.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they used that style to cover the fact that they didn’t have enough time to make the movie. I mean, they started the movie in January of 2022, it’s been just a little over a year. That is definitely not enough time to make a full-quality movie, and I bet animators and pretty much everyone at WDAS are getting squished by deadlines right now (they’ve only been animating for 4 months!!). This movie seems very last-minute. But it’s the story that counts… right?
Edit: I also think the song sounded better in the teaser than it did at the presentation back in September. But that also raises the question: is this the “big” song? If I was smart, I wouldn’t put the main song in the teaser trailer, but then again, who knew that We Don’t Talk About Bruno would become a giant hit? It wasn’t exactly the “main song”.
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He’s wearing pajamas, actually.Mooky wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:46 am I like the ~feel~ of the teaser, it definitely reminds me of old school Disney. Very magical. Asha is beautiful. What sounds like a generic introductory narration and then turns into a threat is very well done. Chris Pine is doing a great job.
That said, I'm not sure I like the animation style. It feels very crude and restrictive and... kind of primitive, I'd dare say. Not very fluid at all. It reminds me of older Barbie movies (2001-2006) for some reason. Anyway, it's just a teaser and the final movie may look and feel different, and given this is a new style for Disney it will take some time to get used to it. I'm willing to be open-minded, but I also question the logic of striving to make CG appear hand-drawn, when you could have just made a hand-drawn movie to begin with![]()
Also, I don't like the goat's voice or him wearing a jumpsuit![]()
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It looks so nice! I saw a lot of callbacks just in this. One part reminded me of Esmeralda looking up at the stained glass in "God Help the Outcasts," the part with the bubbles (dreams?) reminded me of "I See the Light." Only thing I didn't like was the goat's voice. Maybe it'll grow on me.

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David Gilson, Prince Kids, on this forum pointed out the following on twitter. A group of characters which might be Asha's friends appear to reference the seven dwarfs. They have matching character traits and designs:


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From the new announcement:

EDIT: Whoops, didn't see that was already posted.Check out the new trailer, plus a poster and new image for Walt Disney Animation Studios’ “Wish,” which opens exclusively in theaters on Nov. 22. The trailer introduces 17-year-old Asha, the powerful King Magnifico, Asha’s pet goat Valentino, and Star, a celestial ball of boundless energy that Asha’s wish calls down from the sky. It also features a snippet of the song “This Wish,” performed by Ariana DeBose; it’s one of several new songs written by Julia Michaels and Benjamin Rice for the film.
The all-new musical-comedy welcomes audiences to Rosas, a fantastical land located off the Iberian Peninsula. “Our heroine, Asha, lives in Rosas, known as the kingdom of wishes,” said director Chris Buck, who helms the film with Fawn Veerasunthorn. “People come from everywhere to give their wishes to a magical king who promises to grant their deepest desires—someday. Only he can decide which wishes will come true and when.”
Added Veerasunthorn, “We have been inspired by so many iconic films over Disney Animation’s 100 years, especially stories where we explore the power of someone with a wish, combined with the conviction to make that wish come true. Being able to honor that legacy with this incredible story and these amazing characters has been a joy for our entire team.”
ABOUT THE MOVIE
In “Wish,” Asha, a sharp-witted idealist, makes a wish so powerful that it is answered by a cosmic force—a little ball of boundless energy called Star. Together, Asha and Star confront a most formidable foe—the ruler of Rosas, King Magnifico—to save her community and prove that when the will of one courageous human connects with the magic of the stars, wondrous things can happen. Featuring the voices of Academy Award®-winning actor Ariana DeBose as Asha, Chris Pine as Magnifico, and Alan Tudyk as Asha’s favorite goat, Valentino, the film is helmed by Oscar®-winning director Chris Buck (“Frozen,” “Frozen 2”) and Fawn Veerasunthorn (“Raya and the Last Dragon”), produced by Peter Del Vecho (“Frozen,” “Frozen 2”) and co-produced by Juan Pablo Reyes (“Encanto”). Jennifer Lee (“Frozen,” “Frozen 2”) executive produces—Lee and Allison Moore (“Night Sky,” “Manhunt”) are writers on the project. With original songs by Grammy®-nominated singer/songwriter Julia Michaels and Grammy-winning producer/songwriter/musician Benjamin Rice, plus score by composer Dave Metzger, “Wish” opens only in theaters on Nov. 22, 2023.
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I agree with others that the villain's name is a little dumb the more I use it / read it since it's an adjective, but they're probably hoping it'll just pass by dumb Americans who don't know much Spanish and sound the same as Valentino's nane as far as ending in an o sound. Disney has always presented culture and/or foreign language / accents in a very McDonald's fashion.

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I think the result is nice. There is something to be impressed by. I know how to value ArtWork. For those who don't delve deeper it can be confusing. This is a previously tried effect - Drawing "pencil lines" that is put on the 3D figures. It is not 2D animation that leads the movement of the uniqueness of the animation in the characters (like the classic Disney films) it is an attempt to remind their heritage. The "Treasure Planet" was an example of the best combination of 2 types of animation 2D+3D - almost perfectly! The 3D did not take over and took the focus of the 2D. They worked together - but separately. That's what was unique and special back then! For me the magic of Disney is in traditional animation. This has been their heritage and uniqueness for many years. This experience doesn't really replace the feel of traditional animation. Because there is no substitute for it. It's like comparing water and fire. The hand touch of an artist who paints - you can't fake it. I still want to hope that Disney will return to their traditional animation identity and realize how unique they were in a world without much competition.
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Remind me how we know this?Woodrow Pride wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:40 am
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they used that style to cover the fact that they didn’t have enough time to make the movie. I mean, they started the movie in January of 2022, it’s been just a little over a year.
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Here's the full video of Ariana DeBose on Good Morning America. She only talks about the movie at the beginning. She stressed her character is a new Disney heroine, perhaps to debunk the rumors that she could be a Disney Princess. This is what she said:
I voice Asha. She's a new Disney heroine. She is her own hero. She's a quick-witted idealist and she takes a stand against the ruler of Rosas in order to save her community. And the ruler of Rosas is King Magnifico, who is voiced by the great Chris Pine.
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Oy vey. I guess now we can't even have princesses anymore. At least this film looks good, but that's kind of a bonkers thing for Disney to start lasering in on for their future considering a castle is their main image and princess films are what they're best-known for, hands down.

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Thanks for the high-res versions!
That's a good catch by Prince Kido! I don't think I would've noticed that! I bet he's right. The Bashful reference is not totally clear to me, but there are too many parallels in general to be a coincidence, including some of the same color schemes. I don't know how I feel about it, though. If they're going to have the same personalities, it seems more like copying than an homage.
I guess they're indeed Asha's friends and not just background characters, as they appear in action in another scene:


I wonder what they're doing there. Is it a heist to steal the bubbles that contain people's wishes?
I bet Prince Kido is also right the woman on the right is Asha's mom. Especially, given that she's holding Valentino in her arms. Maybe it's true Asha only has a mother since her father doesn't seem to appear in the image. And who's the old man next to her? Could he be Asha's grandfather?

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I thought I possibly could enjoy this until I saw DeBose’s “new kind of heroine”/anti princess interview.


