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Farerb wrote: โ†‘Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:04 pm Illumination's movies are terrible, yet they keep on succeeding. Unfortunately I predict that other studios will stop putting effort in them and all movies will be like Illumination's.
I totally agree. And donโ€™t even get me started on Minions. Illuminationโ€™s honestly worse than DreamWorks now. They have more influence. Itโ€™s sad that the world canโ€™t tell the difference between good entertainment and trash.

Iโ€™m a little hesitant about the idea of Disney lowering its standards because people donโ€™t care about quality storytelling and characters. But honestly, Disney is all about their audience; they make whatโ€™ll sell. Iโ€™d be glad if that doesnโ€™t happen, but if it does, I wouldnโ€™t be surprised. Boo, Illumination. Just boo.

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D82 wrote: โ†‘Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:32 pm
Farerb wrote: โ†‘Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:04 pm Illumination's movies are terrible, yet they keep on succeeding. Unfortunately I predict that other studios will stop putting effort in them and all movies will be like Illumination's.
I thought the movie wouldn't do that well after not getting good reviews, but it seems this is one of those cases where critics and audiences are not on the same page, as it got an A CinemaScore and an excellent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. I don't think it has any awards chances, though.

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There's no way that the Mario movie wasn't going to do well, it's among the biggest properties on earth and has nostalgic pull as far back as for Gen Xr's. And it seems like the movie's biggest critics are people unfamiliar with the games and those skeptical of Illumination (ie adults), the reception is a lot more positive from fans and children from what I've seen.

I personally have little interest in the movie despite being a Mario fan, but it shouldn't be a surprise that this is doing big numbers.
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I'm not really surprised it's done well since Sonic the Hedgehog was surprisingly good. I mean, I have planned to see the Mario movie eventually simply because Chris Pratt was involved, it looked like something that could be good (potentially) for an hour of fun even if it's garbage.

I'm not in a hurry though, since I was never really into Mario other than the racing game and that cleaning Sunshine game back when that was so fun to me. Princess Peach and Yoshi were probably the only characters I really liked as a child, tbh. I remember growing up with that old Mario movie, that film was so strange. :lol:
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Disney's Divinity wrote: โ†‘Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:20 pm I mean, I have planned to see the Mario movie eventually simply because Chris Pratt was involved, it looked like something that could be good (potentially) for an hour of fun even if it's garbage.
Ha, I don't know why that's funny, but it is. rotfl
Disney's Divinity wrote: โ†‘Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:20 pm I remember growing up with that old Mario movie, that film was so strange. :lol:
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Avaitor wrote: โ†‘Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:43 am There's no way that the Mario movie wasn't going to do well, it's among the biggest properties on earth and has nostalgic pull as far back as for Gen Xr's. And it seems like the movie's biggest critics are people unfamiliar with the games and those skeptical of Illumination (ie adults), the reception is a lot more positive from fans and children from what I've seen.

I personally have little interest in the movie despite being a Mario fan, but it shouldn't be a surprise that this is doing big numbers.
I knew it was a highly anticipated film, so I believed it would still be successful and have at least a strong opening, but I thought the bad reviews would have a bigger impact that they've had. Especially, as that's happened more than once lately with films like the third Ant-Man movie or the Shazam sequel. And I think the studio was also afraid of that, since they didn't lift the review embargo until mere hours before the release. However, the audience reaction for those other movies wasn't as good as this one's, so it'll probably continue to do well in spite of the reviews.

Personally, I don't plan to see in in theaters either. I've never played the games and the trailers didn't look too interesting to me. Also, I'm not a big fan of Illumination. The only film from the studio I really like is the first Despicable Me. I think I've seen it about three times. Some of the others are OK, but I wouldn't watch them more than once. I haven't even seen their last two films before Mario yet (Sing 2 and Minions: The Rise of Gru).
Disney's Divinity wrote: โ†‘Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:20 pm I'm not really surprised it's done well since Sonic the Hedgehog was surprisingly good. I mean, I have planned to see the Mario movie eventually simply because Chris Pratt was involved, it looked like something that could be good (potentially) for an hour of fun even if it's garbage.
Yes, Sonic the Hedgehog wasn't bad. Perhaps it has something to do with the success of Mario. I've yet to see the sequel of that film too. I also like Chris Pratt. His involvement makes me a bit interested in the movie as well.
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D82 wrote: โ†‘Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:22 pm
Avaitor wrote: โ†‘Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:43 am There's no way that the Mario movie wasn't going to do well, it's among the biggest properties on earth and has nostalgic pull as far back as for Gen Xr's. And it seems like the movie's biggest critics are people unfamiliar with the games and those skeptical of Illumination (ie adults), the reception is a lot more positive from fans and children from what I've seen.

I personally have little interest in the movie despite being a Mario fan, but it shouldn't be a surprise that this is doing big numbers.
I knew it was a highly anticipated film, so I believed it would still be successful and have at least a strong opening, but I thought the bad reviews would have a bigger impact that they've had. Especially, as that's happened more than once lately with films like the third Ant-Man movie or the Shazam sequel. And I think the studio was also afraid of that, since they didn't lift the review embargo until mere hours before the release. However, the audience reaction for those other movies wasn't as good as this one's, so it'll probably continue to do well in spite of the reviews.
I can understand that, but at the same time, I think there are two different factors preventing Mario from being another Ant-Man or Shazam. One is that Mario skews even younger than these do, or rather that its target demographics, children and gamers, aren't as swayed by reviews and are interested in seeing the characters. The other thing is that I think that superhero fatigue is genuinely happening, and neither the new Ant-Man or Shazam were enticing enough to get more casual moviegoers to see them. The bigger heroes (Batman and Spider-Man, really) will likely continue to still be strong draws, as will maybe the better-received films, like Guardians Vol. 3, but it does seem that MCU oversaturation and DC's struggle to catch up to Marvel is hurting their brands.

I've seen some people suggest that video game movies may be the new comic book movies, based on how well Mario, The Last of Us and Uncharted are doing. I'm not sure if that's going to for sure be it, but I definitely think that we'll see more Nintendo and Sony films and series.
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Avaitor wrote: โ†‘Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:29 pm I've seen some people suggest that video game movies may be the new comic book movies, based on how well Mario, The Last of Us and Uncharted are doing. I'm not sure if that's going to for sure be it, but I definitely think that we'll see more Nintendo and Sony films and series.
I also saw people suggesting that there's a resurgence with horror movies.
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Avaitor wrote: โ†‘Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:29 pm I can understand that, but at the same time, I think there are two different factors preventing Mario from being another Ant-Man or Shazam. One is that Mario skews even younger than these do, or rather that its target demographics, children and gamers, aren't as swayed by reviews and are interested in seeing the characters. The other thing is that I think that superhero fatigue is genuinely happening, and neither the new Ant-Man or Shazam were enticing enough to get more casual moviegoers to see them. The bigger heroes (Batman and Spider-Man, really) will likely continue to still be strong draws, as will maybe the better-received films, like Guardians Vol. 3, but it does seem that MCU oversaturation and DC's struggle to catch up to Marvel is hurting their brands.

I've seen some people suggest that video game movies may be the new comic book movies, based on how well Mario, The Last of Us and Uncharted are doing. I'm not sure if that's going to for sure be it, but I definitely think that we'll see more Nintendo and Sony films and series.
Sorry for the late reply. Those are good points. It's true that Mario has a different target audience than those two movies; I didn't take that into account. Yeah, parents probably don't rely too much on reviews when it comes to children's films. They just need something to see with their kids and this looked like fun. Plus, they know the characters, like you said. Also, something that occurred to me later is that Illumination has some reputation by now and they probably trust the studio will deliver at least an entertaining time at the movies. And gamers were excited for this video game adaptation and would've watched it no matter what.

You're also right there's some superhero fatigue right now due to Marvel's oversaturation and also several movies that have disappointed lately, so that definitely was a factor too in Ant-Man or Shazam flopping.

Regarding video game movies possibly being the new comic book movies, I'm not too sure about that. Historically, they've never performed that well. Though, I've heard an important element in the success of Mario and The Last of Us is that in both cases, the video game creators were heavily involved in the adaptations, and as a result, they're quite faithful to the games. Apparently, that might explain in part the big disagreement between critics and audiences in the case of Mario. One of the main criticism from critics is that the story is too simple, but I've heard that was done on purpose to make it similar to the games. So, who knows, if they continue on this path and keep making faithful adaptations, perhaps they could be the new comic book movies after all, though I doubt it. Anyway, I agree we'll get more after the success of these recent titles.

By the way, Mario continues to do really well. It has already become the highest grossing film of the year both domestically and worldwide and is pretty much guaranteed to join the billion-dollar club now.
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Woodrow Pride wrote: โ†‘Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:13 am
Farerb wrote: โ†‘Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:04 pm Illumination's movies are terrible, yet they keep on succeeding. Unfortunately I predict that other studios will stop putting effort in them and all movies will be like Illumination's.
I totally agree. And donโ€™t even get me started on Minions. Illuminationโ€™s honestly worse than DreamWorks now. They have more influence. Itโ€™s sad that the world canโ€™t tell the difference between good entertainment and trash.
Really? I think The Secret Life of Pets and Sing are fun, and I love The Lorax and The Grinch.
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MaQu wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:26 am Really? I think The Secret Life of Pets and Sing are fun, and I love The Lorax and The Grinch.
Umm, then good for you. :up:
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D82 wrote: โ†‘Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:32 pm I thought the movie wouldn't do that well after not getting good reviews, but it seems this is one of those cases where critics and audiences are not on the same page, as it got an A CinemaScore and an excellent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. I don't think it has any awards chances, though.

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Well, since this thread has become about The Super Mario Bros Movie, it wasn`t unexpected that the critics would be lukewarm to it. Cause it was clearly not made for them, as it was clearly pure fun, commercial fluff made for an unpretentious audience. With that said, I actually agree with the audience score, since I really enjoyed the movie. Sure, it wasn`t meant to be anything than silly, trashy fun. But I still liked it for what it was: It was funny, entertaining, visually stunning and with brilliant voice acting. Despite how Chris Pratt was instantly recognizable, he didn`t sully the character of Mario at all.
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DisneyFan09 wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:29 pm Sure, it wasn`t meant to be anything than silly, trashy fun.
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DisneyFan09 wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:29 pm But I still liked it for what it was: It was funny, entertaining, visually stunning and with brilliant voice acting.
I mean, anamorphic lenses are always visually stunning, although it was a little strange for a movie like Mario... but then again, itโ€™s not like there are official โ€œrulesโ€.
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Woodrow Pride wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:57 pm
DisneyFan09 wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:29 pm Sure, it wasn`t meant to be anything than silly, trashy fun.
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DisneyFan09 wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:15 pm Why are you laughing?
Sorry, I just think the fact that you used the word, "trashy" is funny; I hope I didn't offend. It's just not a word I come across a lot. :)
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Woodrow Pride wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:29 pm
DisneyFan09 wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:15 pm Why are you laughing?
Sorry, I just think the fact that you used the word, "trashy" is funny; I hope I didn't offend. It's just not a word I come across a lot. :)
It`s okay. I forgive you ;) I was just curious for why you were laughing.
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Woodrow Pride wrote: โ†‘Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:12 pm Umm, then good for you. :up:
I don't like those films either....

Well, I sort of like pieces of The Lorax even though it's bad just because I found the design of the main character (I forget the name, the one that argues with the Lorax in the "past" scenes) pretty cute. I don't like the rest though.
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I watched the Super Mario Bros. Movie a few days ago and it just felt like a huge marketing scheme that was perfectly timed. It felt like a game of throw-huge-doses-of-nostalgia-to-cover-up-the-fact-that-thereโ€™s-no-story. I mean, seriously, the whole thing was almost no story, and almost all action, like watching a gameplay or something. Plus, with all the 80s references, songs, etc., it felt like it was specifically targeting Gen Xrs, just because they have money right now.

Plus, it was super awkward to see the obvious struggle to make Princess Peach still fit in with the stereotypes of a princess, while also making her appear strong. And they didnโ€™t even give her a backstory! They just covered it up by saying she didnโ€™t remember!

The animation was horrible (what in the world is wrong with Illuminationโ€™s lip-synching?), and it honestly just felt like an hour-long commercial. It also felt like the relationships between the characters were messed up. However, it totally makes sense why this made so much money. Iโ€™m just mad at the fact that it did! :angry: :(
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I'm pretty sure that's the Once-ler, but I could be wrong.
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Yes, I think you're right. Those scenes were the only ones I could bear because they also had Danny Devito in them and occasionally the woodland creatures had a cute moment once in a while. Everything in the 'present' day scenes of that film was irredeemable. :lol:
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Multiple Concept Art for Frozen 2 by Brian Kesinger for a wayy darker and more mythological plot:
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There is even one art piece of a man who reminds me of the Frozen Broadway Trolls, I think it could be King Agnarr??? His beard thing gives me the impression...maybe after surviving the shipwreck,he would have lived in the forest or whatever
Or he himself is the raven as they both have these sparkly blue eyes, oh what could have been :(

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