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blackcauldron85 wrote:I love The Wizard Of Oz, too (but I love Return to Oz even more).
I've never seen Return to Oz in full, although I want to. I've only seen bits and pieces of it, I never seem to catch it when it first starts. I thought the girl from The Craft (admittedly, that film came much later in her career, but I assumed she must've been chosen because she has crazy eyes for both RtO as well as The Craft. :lol: ) is an interesting choice. Some of the later scenes were laced with tension and atmosphere, so I've always wanted to see it whole.

I agree, UmbrellaFish, The Wizard of Oz would make a great park. The yellow brick road, the Emerald City, the witch's fortress, etc. The Wicked Witch's hourglass is probably the main reason I have a fondness for having them as decorations more than Aladdin really. It's always interesting to me that the witches of the North and West come immediately when they sense something has happened to the Witch of the East, so it's odd the Witch of the South is ignored altogether? I always laugh at the fact that the Wizard is a charlatan in the dream just like he is in real life; she must've realized he's a sham unconsciously. :lol: I've never read the books. That's something else to get around to one day. I wish I'd done it as a child, like I did with Lord of the Rings, Narnia, Prydain, etc.
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I finally saw It: Chapter Two. The new films aren't my first experience of the story. I grew up on the original mini-series, and got it on DVD for Christmas when I was a child. Naturally Tim Curry was the one that made that adaptation (it also features Mozenrath's voice actor!). I was looking forward to Chapter Two of the new version because the adult half of the mini-series is definitely the weaker one. I just didn't like a lot of the actors they got to play the children as adults and of course the technical limitations really hampered the ending... Chapter Two was everything I wanted really. I definitely enjoyed it more than the adult half of the mini-series and more than the first part of this new It as well.

I thought all the actors they chose were pretty much perfect, particularly Jay Ryan, McAvoy, Chastain, and Bill Hader. My favorite part was probably the stop-motion (? or perhaps it only imitated stop-motion?) re-telling of the Native Americans' past with It. While the new actor for It was no Tim Curry, I never expected the new film could live up to that and I could enjoy this take for what it was. I definitely plan to get these two parts on Blu-ray in the future once the price has come down. The films came at a perfect moment in time, too, considering the theme about fear giving a monster its power. I will never forget the skit on SNL inspired by the first film; it's the one with Anderson Cooper looking into the sewer and It appears as first Kellyanne Conway, then Rachel Maddow and finally Hillary with her book to lure his hand in, then he wakes up on CNN with a balloon and It is Kellyanne Conway again doing that weird dance / jig. So, so funny, imo.

Hopefully this will trigger me to finally finish the book. Last summer I read around halfway, up to when Stanley kills himself. I also watched a film from last year called Good Boys only because I recognized the name of the boy who's going to be voicing Flounder in the live-action The Little Mermaid, Jacob Tremblay, in the info... I don't have much to say about it. :lol: I thought it was very strange, although I did laugh quite a bit. There was lots of cursing and sex talk for a movie that features a cast primarily made up of 10 year-old's. Not that Flounder is a difficult role--he could be a plush doll for all it matters--but Tremblay is a perfect choice.
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Unlike most people my age (?), I did not grow up with the original It, but my husband and I saw both in the theater. Bloody horror movies are not something I watch, and I'm glad there wasn't too, too much yuck, but I definitely screamed a little in the theater (like in Part 1 with Georgie...). The beginning of Part 2 was really disturbing, but I liked the rest of it. Both movies are good.
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blackcauldron85 wrote:Unlike most people my age (?), I did not grow up with the original It, but my husband and I saw both in the theater. Bloody horror movies are not something I watch, and I'm glad there wasn't too, too much yuck, but I definitely screamed a little in the theater (like in Part 1 with Georgie...). The beginning of Part 2 was really disturbing, but I liked the rest of it. Both movies are good.
Yeah, I can't handle gorey movies or torture porn (things like Saw, Hostel, etc.). Even something that isn't violent or bloody, just relentlessly tragic like, say, Grave of the Fireflies, I rarely ever want to watch again beyond the first viewing--even when I can objectively acknowledge the film is great. It was always more about the game / tension than the actual deaths themselves.

I remember working at a restaurant around the time the first part of the new It came out, and I overheard some girl (highschool age) talking about how she was going to see it with her boyfriend and she had no idea what the film was about or who Stephen King was. And I felt so old.
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I mean, if she wasn't into horror, either books or movies, mayyyybe she just wouldn't have heard of him... people have to be introduced to something at some point. But, yeah, most people in our age group probably have heard of him. :p
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^ Yeah, I was just shocked to think a whole generation might be growing up not even knowing who Stephen King was. :lol: He's a great author. I guess I lucked up to have seen and loved so many films and mini-series based on his works. The original Carrie, Cujo, The Shining, It, Misery, Rose Red (which featured the actress from Halloweentown / Quints, actually!), etc. That's why I've been trying to watch a lot of older films / shows and listening to older music, too, because I'm sure there's so many great things I don't know anything about. As they say, you don't know what you don't know. :P There are always gems waiting to be re-discovered.
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When you mention older music, how far back are you going? I've always LOVED '50s and '60s music, so if you ever need suggestions, I'm your girl!
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blackcauldron85 wrote:When you mention older music, how far back are you going? I've always LOVED '50s and '60s music, so if you ever need suggestions, I'm your girl!
I'd love suggestions. As far back as you can think of is fine with me. I already have Aretha's hits, as well as The Supremes' and Diana's solo stuff. I was thinking of checking out other girl groups, like the ones Bette Midler covered on her last album (the Shirelles, the Ronettes, etc.). On the country side, I really love Lynn Anderson's voice. I don't think she has any CD or even digital compilations available, so I've mostly been listening online.

Then there's Petula Clark and Mama Cass.
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^ I'm going to bed now...but I will leave this thread up...I'll go through my music and pick out some good stuff some point in the near future (it may need to wait until the weekend). If you don't mind waiting a little bit! :thumb:
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I didn't know if you wanted albums or songs, but I'll stick with songs, since a song is more "digestable" than an album. And I'll skip The Supremes & Aretha since you already know their music! You mentioned Cass but not The Mamas & The Papas, so I did include them. I never realized just how much guy music I had vs girl as far as oldies goes. Wow. I don't know how much oldies music you already know so I put some obvious ones, but I also put some of my favorite not-as-popular songs. And I didn't put '70s/'80s classics like Elton John or Billy Joel, but I can add them too if you're not familiar... If you need me to whittle this down, just let me know. Just going through my music: [I stopped at "K" because I need to get to bed!]

Girls/Girls & Guys together:
Starland Vocal Band- Afternoon Delight
Merrilee Rush and the Turnabouts- Angel of the Morning
Freda Payne- Band of Gold
The Marvelettes- Beechwood 4-5789
Mary Wells- Bye Bye Baby
The Mamas & The Papas- California Dreamin'
Fleetwood Mac- The Chain
The Dixie Cups- Chapel of Love
The Mamas & The Papas- Creeque Alley
Martha & The Vandellas- Dancing In the Street
ABBA- Dancing Queen
The Mamas & The Papas (or The Shirelles)- Dedicated To The One I Love
Fleetwood Mac- Don't Stop
Fleetwood Mac- Dreams
ABBA- Fernando
Fleetwood Mac- Go Your Own Way
The Platters- The Great Pretender
The Chiffons- He's So Fine
Dusty Springfield- I Only Want To Be With You
The Mamas & The Papas- I Saw Her Again Last Night
The Partridge Family- I Think I Love You
Peggy March (aka Little Peggy March)- I Will Follow Him
Gloria Gaynor- I Will Survive
Marvin Gaye & Kim Weston- It Takes Two
Lesley Gore- It's My Party
Martha Reeves & THe Vandellas- Jimmy Mack
Shelley Fabares- Johnny Angel
Doris Troy- Just One Look

Guys:
The Crests- 16 Candles
The Rolling Stones- 19th Nervous Breakdown
Harpers Bizarre (or Simon & Garfunkel)- THe 59th Street Bridge Song
The Jackson 5- ABC
The Beatles- Across the Universe
The Beatles- Act Naturally
Bill Withers- Ain't No Sunshine
Fats Domino- Ain't That a Shame
The Temptations- Ain't Too Proud to Beg
The Everly Brothers- All I Have to Do Is Dream
The Beatles- All My Loving
Elvis Presley- All Shook Up
The Beach Boys- All Summer Long
George Harrison- All Those Years Ago
Elvis Presley- An American Trilogy
Don McLean- American Pie
The Beatles- And I Love Her
The Beatles- And Your Bird Can Sing
The Beatles- Any Time At All
The Rolling Stones- As Tears Go By
Danny & The Juniors (or Flash Cadillac & The Continental Kids)- At the Hop
Wings- Band on the Run
The Regents (or The Beach Boys)- Barbara Ann
Johnny Horton- The Battle of New Orleans
The Beach Boys- Be True To Your School
The Beatles- Because
The Who- Behind Blue Eyes
Bobby Darin- Beyond the Sea
Queen- Bicycle Race
The Doobie Brothers- Black Water
The Beatles- Blackbird
The Marcels- Blue Moon
Elvis Presley- Blue Suede Shoes
Bobby Vinton (or The Clovers)- Blue Velvet
Fats Domino- Blueberry ill
Queen- Bohemian Rhapsody
The Monotones- The Book of Love
Simon & Garfunkel- The Boxer
Neil Sedaka- Breaking Up Is Hard To Do
Simon & Garfunkel- Bridge Over Troubled Water
Sam Cooke- Bring It On Home To Me
Van Morrison- Brown Eyed Girl
Elvis Presley- Burning Love
The Hollies- Bus Stop
Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons- Bye, Bye Baby (Baby, Goodbye)
The Everly Brothers- Bye Bye Love
Neil Sedaka- Calendar Girl
The Beach Boys- California Girls
The Beatles- Can't Buy Me Love
Elvis Presley- Can't Help Falling in Love
Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons- Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You
The Hollies- Carrie Anne
Kansas- Carry On My Wayward Son
Harry Chapin- Cat's In the Cradle
Simon & Garfunkel- Cecilia
Three Dog Night- Celebrate
Sam Cooke- Chain Gang
Big Bopper- Chantilly Lace
The Association- Cherish
Neil Diamond- Cherry, Cherry
Johnny Horton- Comanche
The Del-Vikings (or The Beach Boys)- Come Go With Me
The Beatles- Come Together
The Beatles- The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
The Capitols- Cool Jerk
Queen- Crazy Little Thing Called Love
Elvis Presley- Crying in the Chapel
Sam Cooke- Cupid
The Beach Boys- Dance, Dance, Dance
Orleans- Dance With Me
Loggins & Messina- Danny's Song
Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons- Dawn (Go Away)
The Beatles- A Day in the Life
The Beatles- Day Tripper
The Monkees- Daydream Believer
The Beatles- Dear Prudence
Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons- December, 1963 (Oh, What A Night)
The Beatles- Devil In Her Heart
Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels- Devil With a Blue Dress On/Good Golly Miss Molly
George Harrison- Devil's Radio
Stevie Wonder- Do I Do
The Beach Boys- Do It Again
Manfred Mann- Do Wah Diddy Diddy
The Lovin' Spoonful- Do You Believe In Magic
Peter Frampton- Do You Feel Like We Do
The Contours- Do You Love Me
Bobby Freeman- Do You Wanna Dance
The Beatles- Do You Want to Know a Secret (trivia: Snow White inspired John Lennon to write this song!)
Ritchie Valens- Donna
Elvis Presley- Don't
Elvis Presley- Don't Be Cruel
Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds- Don't Pull Your Love
Bobby Darin- Dream Lover
The Beatles- Drive My Car
Kansas- Dust in the Wind
The Penguins- Earth Angel
Elvis Presley- Edge of Reality
The Beatles- Eight Days a Week
The Beatles- Eleanor Rigby
Three Dog Night- Eli's Coming
The Beatles- Everybody's GOt Something To Hide Except Me and My Monkey
Queen- Fat Bottomed Girls
Gerry & The Pacemakers- Ferry Cross The Mersey
George Harrison- Fish on the Sand
The Beatles- For No One
Stevie Wonder- For Once In My Life
The Beatles- For You Blue
Paul McCartney- Freedom
The Beach Boys- Fun, Fun, Fun
Wayne Fontana & The Mindbenders- The Game Of Love
The Wilhouettes- Get A Job
The Beatles- Get Back
The Rolling Stones- Get Off Of My Cloud
The Temptations- Get Ready
The Youngbloods- Get Together
The Spencer Davis Group- Gimme Some Lovin'
The Beatles- Girl
The Dave Clark Five (or The Beatles)- Glad All Over
The Beach Boys- God Only Knows
The Beatles- Good Day Sunshine
The Young Rascals (aka The Rascals)- Good Lovin'
Elvis Presley- Good Luck Charm
The Beach Boys- Good Vibrations
Goodnight, Well It's Time To Go (aka Goodnight, Sweetheart, Goodnight)- The Spaniels
George Harrison- Got My Mind Set On You
The Beatles- Got To Get You Into My Life
Jerry Lee Lewis- Great Balls of Fire
The Young Rascals (aka The Rascals)- Groovin'
THe Mindbenders- A Groovy Kind of Love
The Beatles- Happiness Is a Warm Gun
The Beatles- A Hard Day's Night
Sam Cooke- Having A Party
Simon & Garfunkel- A Hazy Shade of Winter
Elvis Presley- Heartbreak Hotel
The Beatles- Hello Goodbye
The Beatles- Help!
The Beach Boys- Help Me, Rhonda
The Beatles- Here Comes the Sun
The Beatles- Here, There and Everywhere
The Fleetwoods- He's the Great Imposter
The Beatles- Hey Bulldog
The Beatles- Hey Jude
Simon & Garfunkel- Homeward Bound
The Rolling Stones- Honky Tonk Women
B.J. Thomas- Hooked On a Feeling
Tommy Roe- Hooray for Hazel
Elvis Presley- Hound Dog
The Animals- House of the Rising Sun
The Young Rascals (aka The Rascals)- How Can I Be Sure?
Simon & Garfunkel- I Am A Rock
The Rolling Stones- (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
The Four Tops- I Can't Help Myself
The Beatles- I Feel Fine
The Beach Boys- I Get Around
Marvin Gaye- I Heard It Through the Grapevine
Stevie Wonder- I Just Called to Say I Love You
Sam Cooke- (I Love You) For Sentimental Reasons
The Beatles- I Me Mine
The Beatles- I Need You
Elvis Presley- I Need Your Love Tonight
The Flamingos- I Only Have Eyes For You
The Beatles- I Saw Her Standing There
Smokey Robinson & The Miracles- I Second That Emotion
The Beatles- I Should Have Known Better
Bee Gees- I Started a Joke
Tommy James & The Shondells- I Think We're Alone Now
The Beatles- I Want To Hold Your Hand
The Beatles- I Want to Tell You
The Jackson 5- I Want You Back
The Beatles- I Want You (She's So Heavy)
The Beatles- I Will
Lobo- I'd Love You To Want Me
Elvis Presley- If I Can Dream
The Beatles- If I Fell
Chicago- If You Leave Me Now
The Beatles- I'll Be Back
The Beatles- I'll Cry Instead
The Beatles- I'll Follow The Sun
The Beatles- I'll Get You
The Monkees- I'm a Believer
The Beatles- I'm Happy Just to Dance With You
The Beatles- I'm Looking Through You
The Monkees- (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone
The Beatles- I'm Only Sleeping
Johnny Horton- I'm Ready, If You're Willing
The Beatles- I'm So Tired
John Lennon- Imagine
The Beatles- In My Life
The Beach Boys- In My Room
Elvis Presley- In the Ghetto
The Five Satins- In the Still of the Night
Stevie Wonder- Isn't She Lovely
The Beatles- It Won't Be Long
Ricky Nelson- It's Late
Elvis Presley- It's Now or Never
The Beatles- It's Only Love
The Young Rascals (aka The Rascals)- I've Been Lonely Too Long
The Beatles- I've Just Seen a Face
Elvis Presley- Jailhouse Rock
Chuck Berry- Johnny B. Goode
Johnny Horton- Johnny Freedom
Johnny Horton- Johnny Reb
Three Dog Night- Joy To the World
The Temptations- Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
Elvis Presley- Kentucky Rain
Queen- Killer Queen
Herman's Hermits- A Kind of Hush
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^ Thank you! I actually know more of those than I thought I would. I do own Abba's, Queen's, and Fleetwood Mac's hits, and Michael Jackson's Ultimate Collection features a couple of his Jackson 5 songs, but I'm guessing most of the others I'm familiar with must largely come from watching American Idol all these years. I'll check out this list over time, thanks. :)
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Is this a stopping point or do you want me to continue with the rest of the alphabet? (And so sorry for filling up a film/TV thread with music!!!)
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That should keep me going for a while. I might PM you sometime to get the rest if you're not busy. :)
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Sounds perfect!!! :)
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I’ve watched a lot of movies lately!

Shanghai Express- Blind. I didn’t think this movie was all great, just an excuse to watch Marlene Dietrich photographed pretty.

Knives Out- Blind. I enjoyed this! Loved the twists and turns.

Grand Hotel- Blind. I think only the second or third Garbo film I’ve ever seen. When she came on the screen, I almost rolled my eyes by how over dramatic she and her character were. But then I sort of fell in love with her. Interesting how that Garbo magic still works, 90 years later.

Flower Drum Song- Blind. This is one of the only Rodgers and Hammerstein movie adaptations I haven’t seen. TBH it’s not half as well constructed as most other R&H musicals and the songs are mostly forgettable (people will appreciate “A Thousand Million Miracles” which is a rewritten version of “Impossible” from Cinderella). And that ending!!! Oh my god... that was just awful....

Funny Girl- Repeat. I’ve seen this many times, but this time I was just in awe of Streisand. She is sensational.

Rear Window- Repeat. I actually jumped at one point! But I think I initially put this in to watch Grace Kelly in those Edith Head fashions.

Psycho- Repeat. This movie has never scared me, but it’s still a great suspense picture.

Vertigo- Repeat. I liked it much better than I ever did in the past. The relationship between Stewart and Novak was fascinating to watch unfold.

The Women- Repeat. Can we posthumously award Rosalind Russel an Oscar for her performance in this? She may be the only reason it’s still watchable 80 years later. Oh, well, she and Joan Crawford. And Paulette Goddard. And well, I’ve always had a soft spot for Norma Shearer too, even if her character’s a bit inane.

Marie Antoinette, 1938- Repeat. I used to love this version of the story when I was a kid, but rewatching it now it’s just laughably ahistorical and Norma Shearer it just maybe not the best Antoinette. Robert Morley is lovable, though— his portrayal has always colored my picture of the real Louis XVI, and I don’t think it’s far off.

The Little Foxes- Blind. I wish I’d watched this before! I enjoyed the plots and intrigue. Bette Davis is sensational.
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I'm glad that Marie Antionette film has a fan, as it cost so much to make and had so much work put into it, down to getting the lace historically right! They should have filmed it in color like they planned with all the work they put into it!
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I loved Flower Drum Song when I was a kid. I haven't seen it in yeeeeaaarrrsss, so I wonder if I'd feel similar to you if I re-watched it...
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Disney Duster wrote:I'm glad that Marie Antionette film has a fan, as it cost so much to make and had so much work put into it, down to getting the lace historically right! They should have filmed it in color like they planned with all the work they put into it!
I agree, I wish it had been in color! It’s almost painful to know how sumptuous the production was only to be hidden in black and white.
blackcauldron85 wrote:I loved Flower Drum Song when I was a kid. I haven't seen it in yeeeeaaarrrsss, so I wonder if I'd feel similar to you if I re-watched it...
Honestly, I thought it was mostly fine until the ending. The resolution to me was horrifying. I thought when the wedding party was being paraded with the bride’s face masked, we’d find out that Nancy Kwan was actually behind it and Mei Li was free to marry James Shigeta— a bait and switch to fool the in-laws and make sure everybody ended up married to the right person (although, if you ask me the seamstress should have ended up with Shigeta and Mei Li should have had some independence).

But instead, the deus ex machina that saves the day is the threat of deportation! I did not know that was coming and it was just really unsettling, especially post-2016.

I did like the cast and some of the songs though. Especially Jack Soo who I thought had a very pretty, crooner voice.
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UmbrellaFish wrote:I agree, I wish it had been in color! It’s almost painful to know how sumptuous the production was only to be hidden in black and white.
Absolutely!
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The Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo- web series https://youtu.be/5c5YuuMWXzg

So there’s some really funny videos (https://youtu.be/Lwotxlk668s) of this comedian named Brian Jordan Alvarez going around on Twitter right now which prompted me to look him up— first, I was surprised to learn he was Estefan in the recent Will and Grace revival (https://youtu.be/YmAxCoQAY64), but he also has a very short web series on YouTube with the aforementioned title. Let me say, I’m very impressed by him— you almost wouldn’t guess he was the same actor based on the Twitter videos, his Will and Grace appearances, and “Caleb Gallo,” very chameleon like.

The “Caleb Gallo” show is one of those series where queer identities are rampant and accepted in a way that for someone of my background almost feels like an alternate universe, but maybe that’s what LA’s really like? Or maybe that’s where the “Wondrous” part of the title comes in. Anyway, it’s a pretty funny series— especially the gender fluid Freckle character who is just hilarious.

I’m very impressed with this talent and looking forward to seeing where his career goes in the future.
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