Ralph Breaks the Internet

[DisneyEra]

I don't get why Modern Disney keeps taking cheap shots at it's legacy like this, and for what, cheap laughs?

It also happened during the opening scene of Chicken Little, but that felt more like an attempt to score some points in some Shrek humor, which was popular then. Laughing at your own legacy gives the impression that they are somewhat embarrassed of their past. Critics complain about princesses and other elements, and they reply says "see, we don't take ourselves too seriously. We have self irony and can laugh at ourselves."

I prefer it when Disney movies do take themselves seriously, but without being too serious, pretentious or preachy. It is fully possible to add some laughs without making it a comedy.

Must confess I haven't paid much attention to the Wreck-It Ralph sequel, but I liked most of the first movie, and if they can repeat that, it's on my list.

Yes, the Lion King scene. At least it was a quick gag, it ended almost as fast as it started. it's like, here's the gag, ok you get it, done, lets move on. Now if it was over extended, & had characters mocking Simba, ect. that would of been a disaster. It seems like everything changed at WDAS after Ralph 2 was announced. Gigantic has basically disappeared from existence as has any news on anything new from the studio in general. And other than Frozen, that's all Disney seems to care about right now. Pixar, I know I harp on them a lot for they're sequels but I give them the benefit of the doubt for at least announcing that "Suburban Fantasy" feature. They didn't have to do that. Why announce an original feature that's at least 3 years away from now. WDAS clearly would not have done this. So lets give Pixar some credit for at least having the guts to announce a new original feature amid this slew of sequels

[JeanGreyForever]

It also happened during the opening scene of Chicken Little, but that felt more like an attempt to score some points in some Shrek humor, which was popular then. Laughing at your own legacy gives the impression that they are somewhat embarrassed of their past. Critics complain about princesses and other elements, and they reply says "see, we don't take ourselves too seriously. We have self irony and can laugh at ourselves."

I prefer it when Disney movies do take themselves seriously, but without being too serious, pretentious or preachy. It is fully possible to add some laughs without making it a comedy.

Must confess I haven't paid much attention to the Wreck-It Ralph sequel, but I liked most of the first movie, and if they can repeat that, it's on my list.

Yes, the Lion King scene. At least it was a quick gag, it ended almost as fast as it started. it's like, here's the gag, ok you get it, done, lets move on. Now if it was over extended, & had characters mocking Simba, ect. that would of been a disaster. It seems like everything changed at WDAS after Ralph 2 was announced. Gigantic has basically disappeared from existence as has any news on anything new from the studio in general. And other than Frozen, that's all Disney seems to care about right now. Pixar, I know I harp on them a lot for they're sequels but I give them the benefit of the doubt for at least announcing that "Suburban Fantasy" feature. They didn't have to do that. Why announce an original feature that's at least 3 years away from now. WDAS clearly would not have done this. So lets give Pixar some credit for at least having the guts to announce a new original feature amid this slew of sequels

I haven't been looking at all forward to Gigantic, whereas I was super pumped for Wreck-It Ralph 2, but now I think I should have swapped my priorities.

[DisneyEra]

The first male-lead fairy-tale musical in 2 decades, Gigantic would have given us new songs, a Spanish kingdom/World of the Giants in the clouds, new characters, plus the storm giants. And this is the only new original feature that WDAS has announced since 2015! Do they have ANYTHING other than Gigantic that they are working on that are not sequels to Ralph/Frozen. As we saw at D23, No.

[Disney Duster]

Like JeanGreyForever and Elladorine, I think these princesses and Star Wars and Marvel characters are just the internet versions and not the actual Disney heroines. And at least I can think of them that way especially with them looking different than how they truly do. So, I am ok with this. I wouldn't normally be ok with this but these days I have been "whatever" with what Disney is doing and I never liked the idea of Disney making Wreck-it-Ralph in the first place. Video games weren't coming to life in the same way they anthropomorphized other things in their past, to me. I would have rather liked Joe Jump.

Well i figured that, but "from the other company" still doesn't really make any sense. I mean it made sense in Roger Rabbit when Daffy Duck makes a comment about how hardly anyone can "understand what this duck is saying" in reference to Donald since Donald couldn't really be understood by a lot of people. And maybe if it were just like that, then it would make a little more sense but saying because she's from a different animation studio, to me anyway, is a little confusing. Or maybe I'm overthinking it.

You are overthinking it. They say "We can't understand her. She from the other studio" as if her being from another studio made her unable to understand. It doesn't make sense because it is her accent that makes her hard to understand, but that's the joke, that because another studio made her, that somehow makes them unable to understand her! lol

[rodrigo_ca]

Perhaps he was just busy? There were a number of notable absences at the Expo, like Idina Menzel and Ming-na Wen for the princess reunion (they too were in the clip). I know Ming-na tweeted that unfortunately she couldn't make it. James Woods may have been another at the Hercules panel, and I don't believe Matthew Broderick or James Earl Jones were present for The Lion King panel.

I wouldn't read too much into his (John C. Reilly's) absence.

But how could Riley not be there? It's his movie, he's the main lead. This was the public's first showing of this sequel since it's surprise revel a year ago, everyone else was there, directors, co star, Lasseter. Him not being there I believe, Vanellope will be getting most of the marketing along with the Princesses. Idina Menzel not showing up isn't good either, but with the studio pushing the Olaf short, Josh gad was the one that had to be there since he's the main star of it, & he was there, taking selfies with ALL the Princess voice actresses.

You're reading wayyyyy to much into the whole absense thing. If the guy wasn't available, what was Disney supposed to do? If Olaf was more important than Elsa and Anna and they were trying to give him the title role, they wouldn't have Kristen Bell come either. It's just that it can't be done. Nobody would even care if they simply didn't have any voice actors there, since most of the audience were simply Disney fans wanting to know about their upcoming releases.
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As for Disney ignoring Gigantic... it sounds obvious to me that the movie has problems. Perhaps they're trying to fix it and get it all done before showing it all to us. After all, the movie will come in 2020 at least, and we can expect another D23 Expo in 2019, so...

[DisneyFan09]

The first male-lead fairy-tale musical in 2 decades, Gigantic would have given us new songs, a Spanish kingdom/World of the Giants in the clouds, new characters, plus the storm giants. And this is the only new original feature that WDAS has announced since 2015! Do they have ANYTHING other than Gigantic that they are working on that are not sequels to Ralph/Frozen. As we saw at D23, No.

Yeah, it's truly a pity that there was no news about Gigantic yet.

[Disney Duster]

Well i figured that, but "from the other company" still doesn't really make any sense. I mean it made sense in Roger Rabbit when Daffy Duck makes a comment about how hardly anyone can "understand what this duck is saying" in reference to Donald since Donald couldn't really be understood by a lot of people. And maybe if it were just like that, then it would make a little more sense but saying because she's from a different animation studio, to me anyway, is a little confusing. Or maybe I'm overthinking it.

Actually I think the joke is "some other studio made her and a studio not as good as Disney would make a girl with an accent we can't understand. She's not as good as us".

[DisneyEra]

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Perhaps he was just busy? There were a number of notable absences at the Expo, like Idina Menzel and Ming-na Wen for the princess reunion (they too were in the clip). I know Ming-na tweeted that unfortunately she couldn't make it. James Woods may have been another at the Hercules panel, and I don't believe Matthew Broderick or James Earl Jones were present for The Lion King panel.

I wouldn't read too much into his (John C. Reilly's) absence.[/quote]

But how could Riley not be there? It's his movie, he's the main lead. This was the public's first showing of this sequel since it's surprise revel a year ago, everyone else was there, directors, co star, Lasseter. Him not being there I believe, Vanellope will be getting most of the marketing along with the Princesses. Idina Menzel not showing up isn't good either, but with the studio pushing the Olaf short, Josh gad was the one that had to be there since he's the main star of it, & he was there, taking selfies with ALL the Princess voice actresses.[/quote]

You're reading wayyyyy to much into the whole absense thing. If the guy wasn't available, what was Disney supposed to do? If Olaf was more important than Elsa and Anna and they were trying to give him the title role, they wouldn't have Kristen Bell come either. It's just that it can't be done. Nobody would even care if they simply didn't have any voice actors there, since most of the audience were simply Disney fans wanting to know about their upcoming releases.
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As for Disney ignoring Gigantic... it sounds obvious to me that the movie has problems. Perhaps they're trying to fix it and get it all done before showing it all to us. After all, the movie will come in 2020 at least, and we can expect another D23 Expo in 2019, so...[/quote]

If he was busy, I understand that, but this is HIS movie. But then again, he wasn't at D23 back in 2011 when the first Wreck-It Ralph was reviled. But ALL the voice actors for Incredibles 2 was there. Pixar wasn't gonna allow no absentees for that.

As for Gigantic, why couldn't Disney at least release some sort of statement about it being delayed for whatever reason. They did that for the Good Dinosaur & Dory back in 2013 & there would be no animated feature from Pixar in 2014. WDAS have done nothing like this for Gigantic, pushing it back multiple times with sequels stealing it's release date, while not releasing any statements of any kind. And now completely ignoring it's existence at D23. That's pathetic

[estefan]

I looked up if John C. Reilly was working on anything at the moment and he's currently shooting a movie in Europe. Since the animation panel was on a Friday, he was probably filming that day and he would have been unavailable to participate. Seems like too much of a hassle to get him on a plane, just to appear on stage for a couple of minutes.

[disneyprincess11]

I am writing from my iPad on my plane home, so I apologize for any typos. I think all of you were overlooking/overreacting about Reilly's absence. If they are showing a Vanellope scene, then get Sarah esepecially if the princesses are going to come out and if Vanellope is now considered one. Plus, John announced the sequel on FB.

The Princess scene does give me concern about two things. The first thing is this and the OH MY DISNEY part. I am worried that they are going to make the whole movie just a big Disney commerical. I mean, first of all will Oh my Disney last forever? In 86 years from now, will any of those little ones know what that website is? Or Tsum Tsums? And above all, whst the heck does Yasss means? (Great concept for a character, hate the name) Everything works perfectly, except those two factors. Its a really fun scene that i think some of you will like, but it takes away the timeless factor that the first movie has. I love that there are Disney crossovers in this and it makes sense with the movie being in the Internet, but at the same time, why push this on a sequel? Esepecially to a movie that Disney ignores. And esepecially pushing the most iconic Disney franchise that's making bucks and bucks? It is just really random. It seems like either an desperate, pleading attempt to have Disney exes notice them or a demand from Disney exes themselves. You can bet like hell that the exes are already seeing dollar signs with the Princess/Vanellope merch they are going to make (Fine, i will be one of their volunteers )

Second, I am worried that the Princess scene is going to sacrifice Vanellope's uniqueness, plus Disney's confusing message. Vanellope is perfectly in character in the scene, but this is what I mean: At the end of the first movie, she screwed being a princess to be a president. But now suddenly, she accepts being a Princess??? Ok, Vanellope says she is a princess (which she techichnally is) to be with the princess gang. That aspect of accepting who she originally is is pretty off-character. The first movie sends a anti-Princess message during that scene that Vanellope is too cool and tomboy to be a princess. If Vanellope does end up calling herself a princess at the end of the movie after seeing how cool and imperfect the Disney Princesses are, okay that's fine and it gives out good character development for her. But, now it sends the message that it IS okay to be a Princess after the ending of the first movie; With this newfound message and the princess joke in Moana, what is Disney saying? Is it okay to be a princess or not?

[disneyprincess11]

Confirmation of Vanellope being a Disney Princess + clarification of Vanellope being a president AND princess

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktRc28Oy7nQ[/youtube]

[Sotiris]

Come on, this is just retconning to accommodate the princess scene in the sequel. She abdicated her throne in the original and became the interim president. You can't be both at the same time.

[thedisneyspirit]

^Star Wars did it.

[DisneyEra]

New music for WiR2

[DisneyFan09]

Sotiris, could I use your quotes in one of my blog entries about this movie?

Sure, knock yourself out.

I know that promotion is probably not allowed here, but if you want to take a look at my entry, here it is; http://mydisneyanalysis.blogspot.no/201 ... ernet.html

[Semaj]

So.....

They wouldn't include Anna as a princess even though she's legit (and Elsa is a QUEEN, guys), but made Vanellope a princess even though she abdicated the title?

[Disney Analysis]

Sure, knock yourself out.

I know that promotion is probably not allowed here, but if you want to take a look at my entry, here it is; http://mydisneyanalysis.blogspot.no/201 ... ernet.html

That's off topic but DisneyFan09, I'm not criticizing your blog (each blog is unique and has some good content) but please change its name. My fansite created in april 2012 is called 'Disney Analysis' (also my pseudo) - then a Tumblr blog called 'Disney Analysis' has been created mid-2013, and now you... Please be original and look at Google if the name is not yet taken by someone else. All the best for your blog !

NB : my website http://www.disneyanalysis.fr

[End of the off topic, let's return to Ralph 2 !]

[DisneyFan09]

Hey, Disney Analysis.

It's okay. Sorry for not being more inventive with my nick. The thing is that I've been a little lazy with it. But I took your criticism in a constructive way. But now I've finally changed it. And thanks for the praise.

[Disney Analysis]

Hey, Disney Analysis.

It's okay. Sorry for not being more inventive with my nick. The thing is that I've been a little lazy with it. But I took your criticism in a constructive way. But now I've finally changed it. And thanks for the praise.

Hi !

Thank to you to take the time to read my comment ! That was not the case of the 2013 blog... I understand, everybody is sometime lazy - Flash effect ^^ and Thank you for the change, really !! Best wishes for your continuation !

[disneyboy20022]

Okay, this scene is sounding out of place for Wreck it Ralph 2. Honestly a bit jarring. I like that for the first time a bunch of the Disney Princesses and their voice actresses who are still living are coming together in a scene like this, but I'm not sure this is for Wreck it Ralph 2. Also, did I read that right, that Ralph goes to Ohmydisney.com and that this is where that scene takes place?! I've heard of product placement within a film, but this is like taking out the middle man to promote their own product, The Disney Princess Franchise... I am just, okay.