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Musical Master wrote:Is it me or is it that Elle is giving better delivery on her lines than she did on the teaser? Plus I loved Maleficent's giggle before she says: "I am not afraid", so cool. :D
I think it's a lot of that other than clips, a lot of the ads/trailers/promos are heavily edited. there are things deliberately cut out (as this clip shows) and things out of order.

everytime i see her deliver the 'are you Maleficent?' line, I feel like it's out of context. never even noticed she was crying at the time until I read the books.
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Not only is the music and visuals great, but her CG wings are fantastic! Two weeks everyone.... Two. Short. Weeks. :D :D :D :D
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Musical Master wrote: Two weeks everyone.... Two. Short. Weeks. :D :D :D :D
I know!!! :D I'm so excited!
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bradk wrote:Interestingly enough, I'm not sure in the leaked script if they ever appeared in human form (I don't think they did?) so there was some conscious decision to take it from the animated film (as well as with certain other scenes/changes, even from the novelization).
I don't remember the script mentioning them becoming human but we must assume they did otherwise Aurora would have noticed they were fairies...from birth.
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bradk wrote:Interestingly enough, I'm not sure in the leaked script if they ever appeared in human form (I don't think they did?) so there was some conscious decision to take it from the animated film (as well as with certain other scenes/changes, even from the novelization).
I don't remember the script mentioning them becoming human but we must assume they did otherwise Aurora would have noticed they were fairies...from birth.
to be blunt, the script and the books have plenty of holes in them. there's still no viable explanation about why Maleficent (and her parents) is the only 'human-size' fairy, especially if they all have the magical ability to shrink and grow.

That said, Aurora is an infant who wouldn't know any different if they were small. but that's neither here nor there. It's clear that it as a conscious decision to take direction from the animated film, for many more reasons than just being human-sized.

On that token, I have received the press kit which lists the full end credits (including actors and roles) and something worth noting as a difference between the books and the film (though it's possible the roles are just uncredited, but...)...

Maleficent's parents don't appear to be part of the film.
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Disney Duster wrote: I don't remember the script mentioning them becoming human but we must assume they did otherwise Aurora would have noticed they were fairies...from birth.
to be blunt, the script and the books have plenty of holes in them. there's still no viable explanation about why Maleficent (and her parents) is the only 'human-size' fairy, especially if they all have the magical ability to shrink and grow.

That said, Aurora is an infant who wouldn't know any different if they were small. but that's neither here nor there. It's clear that it as a conscious decision to take direction from the animated film, for many more reasons than just being human-sized.

On that token, I have received the press kit which lists the full end credits (including actors and roles) and something worth noting as a difference between the books and the film (though it's possible the roles are just uncredited, but...)...

Maleficent's parents don't appear to be part of the film.
Are King Kinloch (Peter Capaldi) and Queen Ulla (Miranda Richardson) gone as well?
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yes, that should be no surprise. all of that was completely re-written. except for Maleficent taking charge and becoming de facto ruler of the Moors as seen in one of the clips, there is no oligarchy (and pretty much so that she can do just that).
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Robin also appears to have gotten the axe.
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bradk wrote:Robin also appears to have gotten the axe.
Oh that guy from The Curse of Maleficent book, yeah much like Kinloch and Ulla, he's kind of pointless and superfluous. All Maleficent needs to do is take charge once the time was right and right after when Stefan betrays her, gains her staff herself, meets Diaval; that's where she takes over the Moors with nothing standing in her way.
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superfluous yes. it was just one more relationship to take away from the key ones. probably why they seem to have done away with a lot of the pre-Maleficent backstory too from the novels.

new concept art: http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-mal ... ing-70995/
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bradk wrote:superfluous yes. it was just one more relationship to take away from the key ones. probably why they seem to have done away with a lot of the pre-Maleficent backstory too from the novels.

new concept art: http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-mal ... ing-70995/
Gee, does that castle remind you of anything? :P
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bradk wrote:superfluous yes. it was just one more relationship to take away from the key ones. probably why they seem to have done away with a lot of the pre-Maleficent backstory too from the novels.

new concept art: http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-mal ... ing-70995/
Gee, does that castle remind you of anything? :P
That's funny. I didn't notice when I first found and posted it, nor did I catch it when you posted this, but as soon as I woke up this morning, it totally hit me.

Maybe cuz it's not pinkish. no, blu-ish. no, pink-ish.
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Did you guys notice that they have Maleficent Free Fall now? Looking at the graphics on her face, makes me think how cool it would have been to have had an actual game based on the movie!
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yes, I posted the trailer a few days ago (admittedly it was a day before the game was released). I have a few levels left til I'm done.
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bradk wrote:That said, Aurora is an infant who wouldn't know any different if they were small. but that's neither here nor there. It's clear that it as a conscious decision to take direction from the animated film, for many more reasons than just being human-sized.
I meant that she would know they were fairies eventually as she grew up from birth. If they didn't take human form in the leaked script she would have realized she was different from them, and if she ever learned anything about fairies in between her being taken to the cottage and her turning 16, she would catch on that these small winged things were faires. But if you meant the script had a hole in it that someone forgot to write that they changed to human size, I would believe that.
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I referred back to the script. All of the fairies were the size of 'small humans.' so.. that's that. they have pointed ears and wings, that's all that's discernible about them.

There was never any growing/shrinking like in the animated film. All that and the coronation scene were re-written completely to pay homage to the animated film.
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Them being small all the time and becoming bigger to hide Aurora doesn't say "change to be more like the animated film" to me, but I see what you were saying. I bet the leaked script forgot to say they changed their wings and pointed ears while hiding Aurora. And the christening scene in the final film actually is about as close to the animated film as the leaked script was because even if the christening scene now has more dialogue like animated film, the leaked script had Maleficent appearing and disappearing in flames, the curse to die, and the blue fairy giving the gift of true love's kiss to awaken her, none of which made it into the final film, sadly.
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Them being small all the time and becoming bigger to hide Aurora doesn't say "change to be more like the animated film" to me, but I see what you were saying.
Yeah, that's exactly what it says. Because that's what happens in the 1959 film. As opposed to all fairies being human sized which was the original plan.
I bet the leaked script forgot to say they changed their wings and pointed ears while hiding Aurora.
They hid them under peasant clothes. That's in the script.
And the christening scene in the final film actually is about as close to the animated film as the leaked script was because even if the christening scene now has more dialogue like animated film, the leaked script had Maleficent appearing and disappearing in flames, the curse to die, and the blue fairy giving the gift of true love's kiss to awaken her, none of which made it into the final film, sadly.
About as close? Hardly. The dialogue is everything. And that was completely changed to borrow from the film. Um, yes Maleficent made a curse. That's in just about every iteration of the Sleeping Beauty story. Because that's what the Sleeping Beauty story is about. Maleficent performing a curse shouldn't make anyone think 'oh, they're doing it just like the animated film.'

That's like saying the Drew Carey live action Pinocchio is borrowing directly from the Disney film cuz he plays a toymaker that makes a puppet boy that becomes real.
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Them being small all the time and becoming bigger to hide Aurora doesn't say "change to be more like the animated film" to me, but I see what you were saying.
Yeah, that's exactly what it says. Because that's what happens in the 1959 film.
They don't become bigger to hide Aurora. They stay the same size. Their small size is not their natural size in the animated film, they only do that at certain times. But if you mean them becoming bigger and small at all is from the animated film, I do agree with that.
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I bet the leaked script forgot to say they changed their wings and pointed ears while hiding Aurora.
They hid them under peasant clothes. That's in the script.
Oh, well the script's version was okay to me in that part then, but I do prefer them magically removing their wings, like the animated film, so I'm glad that's in this live-action film.
bradk wrote:And the christening scene in the final film actually is about as close to the animated film as the leaked script was because even if the christening scene now has more dialogue like animated film, the leaked script had Maleficent appearing and disappearing in flames, the curse to die, and the blue fairy giving the gift of true love's kiss to awaken her, none of which made it into the final film, sadly.
About as close? Hardly. The dialogue is everything. And that was completely changed to borrow from the film. Um, yes Maleficent made a curse. That's in just about every iteration of the Sleeping Beauty story. Because that's what the Sleeping Beauty story is about. Maleficent performing a curse shouldn't make anyone think 'oh, they're doing it just like the animated film.'

That's like saying the Drew Carey live action Pinocchio is borrowing directly from the Disney film cuz he plays a toymaker that makes a puppet boy that becomes real.
There must have been a big misunderstanding. I was saying that in the leaked script Maleficent curses Aurora to die, which was more like the animated film, while this new live-action film changes it to "a sleep-like death", which is less like the animated film.
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