Disneycember Month by Doug Walker of TGWTG

Avaitor · Post by **Avaitor** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:40 pm

What awful quality for the footage of the film Doug used. It's like he just used the first rip he could, something that was probably recorded at a theater or on TV via a camera, and didn't bother to find a better quality torrent.

FigmentJedi · Post by **FigmentJedi** » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:31 pm

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:15 am

FigmentJedi wrote: Skipped Robinsons and Chicken Little and went straight to Bolt.

His review for "Bolt" was quite short. Anyway, he seemed to like it more than I did. I thought "Bolt" was generic and forgettable. Never understood the praise it recieved. No offense, "Bolt" fans.

PixarFan2006 · Post by **PixarFan2006** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:44 am

Bolt was decent, but not my favorite. It was a simple road trip film (a character trying to get back home). I couldn't stand Miley's voice acting though.

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:38 pm

PixarFan2006 wrote:Bolt was decent, but not my favorite. It was a simple road trip film (a character trying to get back home). I couldn't stand Miley's voice acting though.

OK. It seems like we have the same opinion about "Bolt"

As for Miley's acting; Although I've learned to despise Miley (because of her hypocrisy), I thought she was fine in "Bolt".

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:49 pm

I think Bolt is mainly an OK movie that served a purpose, much like Oliver and Co did back in the 80s. It served as the training ground for movies like Tangled, and the action sequences were indeed amazing. It is just a standard road trip buddy comedy. It is a good one, mind you, but not THE best ever made.

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:50 am

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:23 pm

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The final Disneycember review (I knew he did WIR already, but I was hoping he'd do it one more time for this) and wow, I'm shocked

"They come a cross a pair of undercover GECKOS"

And that's where I stopped the video. Seriously, I hate to be obnoxious about fact checks and mistakes, but... THEY ARE CHAMELEONS! They are the most well known lizard species that can change color at will, which is what the joke behind the characters is. The main reason I point this out because Doug ALWAYS does this: he makes glaring mistakes that at times are astounding.

The funny thing is that internet reviewers HATE it when people point out mistakes and errors, never mind that they could have double checked. I get that some people are obnoxious about the mistakes (hey, we are all human), but considering these people make a living out of criticizing and pointing out the mistakes of others, would it kill them to set the example to follow? Last Disneycember Doug had a ton of mistakes he later had to address. Worst is that whenever he does address these mistakes, he does with the "aid" of Douchy McNitpick, a character most of the reviewers at the site have adopted to represent the people that point out the mistakes.

It's annoying to say the least, because it convinces people that somehow they are wrong in pointing out factual errors in a review. I remember when I used to be part of that community, people would say "I hate to be a Douchy McNitpick, but..." before pointing out something wrong in the content of the review. These people have successfully drove home the idea that if you dare to criticize them then you are a no life loser that has nothing better to do but point out issues (which is ironic).

That is an obnoxious mentality to follow, especially when you consider that half of these reviewers claim to be "professionals" and yet can't even bother to double and triple check their scripts and facts before recording. It's even more appalling when they claim to point out the issues of the media while failing to clear up their own mistakes.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:58 pm

This surprised me to see this review show up

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disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:49 pm

Apparently he's now doing something called Dreamworks-uary.....I figured I'd post it here since I don't think this merits a whole new topic.

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SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:09 pm

Well that's a stretch.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:54 pm

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:18 pm

I disagree with Doug about "Prince of Egypt" being underappreciated. While it's not often mentioned, it's still a respected movie.

As for "Road to El Dorado"; It's funny how he raves about the film being well-written, when it's in reality the opposite. The film has a lot of plotholes; Tulio and Miguel can easily understand the Natives without further question. The rivalry between Tzekel-Kan and Chief Tannabok is vaguely explained. And not to mention about the sudden ending. I used to overlook those flaws when the film came out and enjoyed the comedy and the fun tone. However, seeing it again it's not as good as I remember. There are worse films, but I've seen better.

ProfessorRatigan · Post by **ProfessorRatigan** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:04 pm

Tulio and Miguel can easily understand the Natives without further question. The rivalry between Tzekel-Kan and Chief Tannabok is vaguely explained. And not to mention about the sudden ending.

Well, none of these things are plotholes. The film has flaws, to be sure, but none of those fit the definition of a plothole. Tulio and Miguel understanding the natives, while stupid, is the same kind of flaw that was seen in Pocahontas with her and John Smith suddenly able to understand each other. It's more about brevity and speeding things along, I think. And, to be fair, the Road to El Dorado IS a very, very fast paced film. If we'd had a huge section of the film where Chel taught them to speak the language, it would have made more sense, yes, but it would have slowed some of the break-neck pace of the film down. It would honestly have been funnier if all the natives spoke in subtitles and Tulio and Miguel had NO idea what was going on the entire time, they were just going with it. But this film is targeted at children, many of whom couldn't be expected to read subtitles in the theater, so, either way they went about it, it would have been tricky. It's easy to see why they didn't bother with it at all.

The rivalry between the Chief and Tzekel-Kan IS pretty well explained in the film. The Chief is non-violent and peaceful whereas Tzekel-Kan is blood-thirsty and demands sacrifices. That's pretty explicit. Don't know how you could miss it.

The ending... I don't recall it being sudden. At least, no more sudden than the rest of the film, which, as I said before, is very fast paced. It fits in with what came before it.

Overall, I really like The Road to El Dorado. Is it a perfect film? No. The songs are awful (in my opinion), but then, it's Tim Rice doing the lyrics. What are you gonna do? There are lapses in logic. It's all been done before and better. On the other hand, the animation is gorgeous (seriously, what the fuck is Doug Walker talking about? The animation is TOO good for comedy? What the hell does that even MEAN?) It's fun and breezy. Tzekel-Kan (who was animated by Kathy Zielinski, animator of Frollo) is a cool villain. The voice-work is top-notch. It's an entertaining film. One of Dreamworks' better films, in my opinion.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:32 pm

The Road to El Dorado is one of my favorite animated films from Dreamworks. I love the soundtrack and the music. I hum to the music a lot. It's a fun movie and I enjoy every minute of it. It has some flaws and I never thought of the language barrier issue before, but as ProfessorRatigan said, Pocahontas had the same issue by Pocahontas using tie dye leaves to help her talk to John Smith though I never saw her do it with the others....so it's confusing

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:55 pm

I'm glad to see that there are others who enjoy The Road to El Dorado. I'd always seen so much dislike hurled at it, but I've always enjoyed the film. I remember watching the opening sequence over and over as a child.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:44 pm

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:26 pm

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:21 am

ProfessorRatigan wrote:Well, none of these things are plotholes. The film has flaws, to be sure, but none of those fit the definition of a plothole. .

OK, fine. Perhaps I shouldn't used the term "plothole", but like you said, it is a flaw.

Tulio and Miguel understanding the natives, while stupid, is the same kind of flaw that was seen in Pocahontas with her and John Smith suddenly able to understand each other.

That's a fair comparison. But despite how stupid the execution of the "listening with your heart" plotline was in "Pocahontas", it was still a solution. Pocahontas and John Smith didn't understand each other at first.

The rivalry between the Chief and Tzekel-Kan IS pretty well explained in the film. The Chief is non-violent and peaceful whereas Tzekel-Kan is blood-thirsty and demands sacrifices. That's pretty explicit. Don't know how you could miss it.

OK, fine. I forgot that. But still the film really never centers about the conflict as it should. Besides, the characters never talks about it.

The ending... I don't recall it being sudden. At least, no more sudden than the rest of the film, which, as I said before, is very fast paced. It fits in with what came before it.

Sorry, but I disagree. The ending is really sudden and does not fit the film.

And just to be said, I don't hate this film as all. But I think the flaws are obvious. Not to mention how Tulio's voice manages to stop the volcano.

thelittleursula · Post by **thelittleursula** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:27 am

So glad that he talked about Shrek's huge flaws and it's not really the golden shiny halo angel magical movie most people think that it is.

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