Christopher Nolan says 3rd Bats the end and Superman Begins

The_Iceflash · Post by **The_Iceflash** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:41 pm

Super Aurora wrote:
The_Iceflash wrote: Hopefully this will have more of a "Batman" feel to it. I wasn't feeling the Batman universe in Nolan's films.
Only thing that the current batman movie I find lacking is the city/background. Doesn't give me a Gotham City like the one Burton or the animated series created. Other than that, Nolan's are more Batman "feel" than you think since they are heavily influence adaptions of some of the well acclaimed comics like Year One, The Killing Joke, Arhkum Asylum etc

Yeah, I wasn't feeling Gotham City at all. It felt more like Batman characters were visiting another city. Oh and I'm not a fan of a realistic, gritty Batman.

Don't even get me started on that atrocity of a Batmobile.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:07 pm

The_Iceflash wrote:
Super Aurora wrote: Only thing that the current batman movie I find lacking is the city/background. Doesn't give me a Gotham City like the one Burton or the animated series created. Other than that, Nolan's are more Batman "feel" than you think since they are heavily influence adaptions of some of the well acclaimed comics like Year One, The Killing Joke, Arhkum Asylum etc
Yeah, I wasn't feeling Gotham City at all. It felt more like Batman characters were visiting another city. Oh and I'm not a fan of a realistic, gritty Batman.

Don't even get me started on that atrocity of a Batmobile.

More like a Bat-Tank in my opinion

and Also I have the Blu ray of the Batman movie with Adam west...is that the series Jiminycrick was refering to....I thought it was good of what I have seen (a few episodes) They didn't use Two-Face in that series...the used a guy named False Face.....not sure who he was an expert a master of disguise (get that image of Dana Carvey out of your head now please

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Super Aurora · Post by **Super Aurora** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:02 pm

To be fair, the batmobile design has always been different in various incarnations. The tank one is more of homage to the one in Return of the Dark Knight by Frank Miller.

The_Iceflash wrote: Yeah, I wasn't feeling Gotham City at all. It felt more like Batman characters were visiting another city. Oh and I'm not a fan of a realistic, gritty Batman.

I dunno why you wouldn't be a fan of the realistic gritty Batman comics. Those one are the ones that are actually really good and really make the characters much more interesting, diverse and relatable as well as help create a new reflection of the character.

The comic Batman: Year One is more about Commissioner Gordon and his thoughts and reflective on the batman character how he comes in term and feel about him.

The_Iceflash · Post by **The_Iceflash** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:41 am

Super Aurora wrote:To be fair, the batmobile design has always been different in various incarnations. The tank one is more of homage to the one in Return of the Dark Knight by Frank Miller.

But it looks kinda awful and ridiculous, IMO.

The_Iceflash wrote: Yeah, I wasn't feeling Gotham City at all. It felt more like Batman characters were visiting another city. Oh and I'm not a fan of a realistic, gritty Batman.
I dunno why you wouldn't be a fan of the realistic gritty Batman comics. Those one are the ones that are actually really good and really make the characters much more interesting, diverse and relatable as well as help create a new reflection of the character.

The comic Batman: Year One is more about Commissioner Gordon and his thoughts and reflective on the batman character how he comes in term and feel about him.

Because I prefer Batman comics to have an element of fantasy to them. I'm not a fan of realism in general.

Frank Miller says it best:

"People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big. I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms. I want to see him fly."

A too gritty Batman makes him look one-note to me. He needs more that to be considered diverse and interesting. The reasons those arcs/trades are considered very good is because of the writing/art. All Star Batman and Robin the Boy wonder, which was also written by Frank Miller, was critically panned for its "gritty style of dialogue" and embarrassing lines that came out of it.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:06 am

The_Iceflash wrote:
Super Aurora wrote:To be fair, the batmobile design has always been different in various incarnations. The tank one is more of homage to the one in Return of the Dark Knight by Frank Miller.
But it looks kinda awful and ridiculous, IMO.

I dunno why you wouldn't be a fan of the realistic gritty Batman comics. Those one are the ones that are actually really good and really make the characters much more interesting, diverse and relatable as well as help create a new reflection of the character.

The comic Batman: Year One is more about Commissioner Gordon and his thoughts and reflective on the batman character how he comes in term and feel about him.
Because I prefer Batman comics to have an element of fantasy to them. I'm not a fan of realism in general.

Frank Miller says it best:

"People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big. I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms. I want to see him fly."

A too gritty Batman makes him look one-note to me. He needs more that to be considered diverse and interesting. The reasons those arcs/trades are considered very good is because of the writing/art. All Star Batman and Robin the Boy wonder, which was also written by Frank Miller, was critically panned for its "gritty style of dialogue" and embarrassing lines that came out of it.

Although I think you'd agree that it shouldn't get out of hand like Batman and Robin and such as this

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cqon0nVWA4A" frameborder="0"></iframe>

...I'd like it somewhere in the middle of realism and fantasy....Although I do enjoy this version of Batman....but that's just it. It's someone else's take on it......It's like comparing Dark Knight to the 1960s batman or even the Tim Burton/Schmaucher to the 1960s...they are all different takes on it....Some good...some interesting.....I still think the best Batman animated (if not the best Batman Movie made that is as real to the comics is Batman: Mask of the Phantasm )

And Also it looks like we may be getting some sorta of fantasy in this with Ra's Al Ghul coming back though we don't know if it's just a flashback or if he we re-born or transported himself to the snow mountains.....and It'll be interesting to see how they do Bane.....and Catwoman....in this final take of Nolan's Batman.....

I think the reboot will give us some sorta middle ground realism and fantasy that we may think we're looking for....I mean I was watching a marathon of the 4 Batman Films...after watching Batman Returns I put in Batman Forever.....Oh lord my girlfriend and I turned it off only 10 minutes into it....and I liked it at the time as a kid...

Super Aurora · Post by **Super Aurora** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:01 am

The_Iceflash wrote: But it looks kinda awful and ridiculous, IMO.

Granted I'm not a fan of this mobile too, but I'm just saying it's not THAT bad as people make it out to be.

The_Iceflash wrote: Because I prefer Batman comics to have an element of fantasy to them. I'm not a fan of realism in general.

LOL no wonder. I personally find need of balance. especially something like Batman.

The_Iceflash wrote: A too gritty Batman makes him look one-note to me. He needs more that to be considered diverse and interesting. The reasons those arcs/trades are considered very good is because of the writing/art.

Exactly You shouldn't judge Batman how realism or gritty it is but by story/art. However many of the one I listed have gritty and realism yet still come out as great tradebacks.

But be fair, Batman was always about the dark, grim and gritty crime world of Gotham City. It was never like Superman or such.

However despite my arguing, I do prefer a balance of fantasy and realism in my Batman as well(or other fiction too). This is why I love the animated series the best incarnation.

The_Iceflash wrote: All Star Batman and Robin the Boy wonder, which was also written by Frank Miller, was critically panned for its "gritty style of dialogue" and embarrassing lines that came out of it.

A lot of people found All Star Batman kinda bad.

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:26 am

People are always complaining about how too “realistic” Nolan’s version of Batman is and I honestly don’t get it. As a casual super-hero film viewer, I enjoy the realism more than the campiness.

That said, I don’t read any comics at all. I’m starting to realize superheros may just be glammed up versions of WWE.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:19 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:People are always complaining about how too “realistic” Nolan’s version of Batman is and I honestly don’t get it. As a casual super-hero film viewer, I enjoy the realism more than the campiness.

That said, I don’t read any comics at all. I’m starting to realize superheros may just be glammed up versions of WWE.

Funny you mention WWE

The_Iceflash · Post by **The_Iceflash** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:12 pm

Super Aurora wrote:
The_Iceflash wrote: But it looks kinda awful and ridiculous, IMO.
Granted I'm not a fan of this mobile too, but I'm just saying it's not THAT bad as people make it out to be.

The_Iceflash wrote: Because I prefer Batman comics to have an element of fantasy to them. I'm not a fan of realism in general.
LOL no wonder. I personally find need of balance. especially something like Batman.

The_Iceflash wrote: A too gritty Batman makes him look one-note to me. He needs more that to be considered diverse and interesting. The reasons those arcs/trades are considered very good is because of the writing/art.
Exactly You shouldn't judge Batman how realism or gritty it is but by story/art. However many of the one I listed have gritty and realism yet still come out as great tradebacks.

But be fair, Batman was always about the dark, grim and gritty crime world of Gotham City. It was never like Superman or such.

However despite my arguing, I do prefer a balance of fantasy and realism in my Batman as well(or other fiction too). This is why I love the animated series the best incarnation.

The_Iceflash wrote: All Star Batman and Robin the Boy wonder, which was also written by Frank Miller, was critically panned for its "gritty style of dialogue" and embarrassing lines that came out of it.
A lot of people found All Star Batman kinda bad.

I agree with you and disneyboy20022 that a balance is best. This isn't Superman where they could get away with skewing more toward the fantasy side but I don't want Batman too far on the opposite side either (I thought Batman Begins and The Dark Knight skewed too far on the opposite side and I would have liked more balance.) I don't want a Might-As-Well-Be-A-Supervillain Batman.

I agree that the animated series is the best incarnation and that All Star Batman was kinda bad.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:31 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:People are always complaining about how too “realistic” Nolan’s version of Batman is and I honestly don’t get it. As a casual super-hero film viewer, I enjoy the realism more than the campiness.

That said, I don’t read any comics at all. I’m starting to realize superheros may just be glammed up versions of WWE.

This is actually the first time I've seen *anyone* complain about them, at least for that reason.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:54 pm

‘The Dark Knight Rises' trailer leaks online

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/the-d ... 0#comments

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:18 am

If didn't last very long, the "sneak peek" has been taken down, due to copyright infringement. But if you go see "Harry Potter 7.2" you can see the real thing.

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:06 am

Here's something interesting for all of you "Batman" fans:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pIV4AgHcoc&feature=share

So, what do you think?

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:17 pm

dvdjunkie wrote:If didn't last very long, the "sneak peek" has been taken down, due to copyright infringement. But if you go see "Harry Potter 7.2" you can see the real thing.

I didn't.

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:05 am

"The Dark Knight Rises" is showing just before "HP 7.2" in all theaters, and if your theater cut this trailer off, they can be a lot of trouble with Warner Brothers. Or maybe you didn't get in the theater in time to see the previews of coming attractions. I am not sure, but "Dark Knight Rises" is in front of the feature attraction in all theaters, large or small.

Flanger-Hanger · Post by **Flanger-Hanger** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:29 am

There were only 3 trailers before HP7P2 for me and none were for Dark Knight Rises.

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:43 am

If you went to one of those midnight shows for Harry Potter 7.2 then you didn't get to see the trailer. It was officially released on the Friday start-ups with HP 7.2.

And since you don't tell us where you live, we can't help you find out why your theater may have opted out of showing the trailer. Maybe you live in an area where there are only one or two theaters and they each have to bid on the new releases and your theater chose not to bid at this time.

Super Aurora · Post by **Super Aurora** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:59 am

for those who couldn't see it, here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjwg6v_bsub_shortfilms

Flanger-Hanger · Post by **Flanger-Hanger** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:23 am

Thanks for the link SA.

JiminyCrick91 · Post by **JiminyCrick91** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:26 pm

dvdjunkie wrote:If you went to one of those midnight shows for Harry Potter 7.2 then you didn't get to see the trailer. It was officially released on the Friday start-ups with HP 7.2.

Mine did...

-Skyler

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