Which DVDs make the grade???

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Dumbo Report Card:

Presentation: B+
Film: A
Video:B+
Audio:A
Extras:B+

Overall Grade: B+ (82.4%)


Scoreboard:

1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: A (93.4%)
2. Pocahontas A- (84.3%)
3. Dumbo B+ (82.4%)
4. Peter Pan: B+ (78.4%)

Next is (we will be jumping forward 68 years):

Princess and the Frog (Blu-ray/DVD)

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Presentation: A-
A decent cover art, but not very memorable. Gray discs= :x

Film: A
A worthy DAC, and awesome for bring back 2D animation. Just a tad bit rushed.

Video: A+
What's not to like?

Audio: A+
Same as Video.

Extras: B+
Good, but could've added a lot more (this is the DVD).
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Presentation: A
Blu-Ray packaging is excellent.

Film: B-
Was better than most of the Disney films from the past 10 years but still lacked the magic I feel when I watch Brother Bear and everything that came before it

Video:A+
Flawless 1080p/AVC video, I've never seen such a beautiful palette on my TV.

Audio:A+
Beautiful DTS-HD.

Extras:A-
None of the extras are very interesting but at least their presented in HD and there is a good audio commentary.
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Princess and the Frog 1-disc DVD:

Presentation: C

Grey disc. Cover doesn't look all that appealing. I dislike the way Louis and Facilier are added in the top, with the bottom of their bodies disappearing into nothing. I also think the pink/purple color for the sky above the riverboat in the background is a very bad choice.

Film: D+

I've seen worse from Disney, but also a whole, whole, whole lot better. From the very first minute, it's obvious Disney wanted to recreate their films from the 1990's, but they made a very bleak copy. It has an interesting premise, an awesome villain, a strong voicecast and a likeable lead character... and *stil* they manage to ruin it.

By adding the most annoying and useless sidekick in (Disney) history, Louis. By not developing the characters enough, but have them sing songs to make it look like there's a bond between them. By thinking hitting three throwaway hilbillie characters on the head endlessly, is somehow hilarious. By inserting a preachy song which hits us over the head with the film's 'message'. And by lack of a plot. The plot is basically traveling through a swamp, added with a whole lot of filler. You can only pull off something like that if you're as talented as the people behind Jungle Book. The team behind PatF is not.

Video:: A

Audio: A

Extra's: C

There were almost no extra's on the DVD. All the good stuff went to the BluRay disc, since, like we all know, that 20% of the market is much more important than the 80% that still buys DVDs. Anyway, there were some nice deleted scenes (the one with Louie's introduction was much better than what ended up in the film) and an audiocommentary that put me to sleep very quickly.
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The Princess and the Frog
Presentation: A
Film: A+
Video: A+
Audio: A+
Extras: A
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Presentation - A
The cover art could have looked a little better, but its still very nice. For the Combo pack, yellow border sucks though.

Film - A+
I adore this film so much its not even funny. The characters, music, and animation is all fantastic and has grown dear to me already.

Video - A+
Animation looks stunning, especially in high-definition.

Audio - A
Music, songs and dialogue sound great.

Extras - B+
They did pretty good with the extras, but they could have been better. I'm happy with what they've given us, however.
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Well, I rented it so here we go:

The Princess and the Frog (1-disc Blu-ray)

Presentation: C
Typical crappy Disney cover and disc art. On the positive side, it didn't have the nasty yellow border that they force upon their combo packs.

Film: C+
I've heard Disney animators describe this film as ill-conceived. That about sums it up.

Video: A+
What did you expect? Direct digital transfer from a company with a great track record.

Audio: A
Sounded perfect to me. If there was flaws, I just don't have the professional training or equipment to detect them.

Extra's: C+
Some nice stuff but it lacked any substantial supplemental material for adults or fans of the animation process. What was there just seemed to be a big wet slobbery kiss for hand-drawn animation.
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Princess and the Frog Report Card

Presentation: B+
Film: B+
Video:A
Audio:A
Extras:B

Overall Grade: B+ (81.8%)


Scoreboard:

1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: A (93.4%)
2. Pocahontas A- (84.3%)
3. Dumbo B+ (82.4%)
4. Princess and the Frog B+ (81.8%)
5. Peter Pan: B+ (78.4%)

In honor of the Diamond Edition coming out, the next one is......

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Presentation: A-
An ok cover art, I like the simplicity.

Film: A+
An amazing classic well deserving of the Best Picture nomination, and even more amazing considering how rushed production was. This is one of the best DAC's ever.

Video: A-
I actually don't care TOO much about colors, and I don't sense a change in mood (depending on the lighting). Cue the color arguments. The little changes don't bug me (Cogsworth, the Beast's destroyed furniture, etc.) Could be better, but I think I like the DE's colors just a little better.

Audio: A+
One of the best Disney soundtracks, and the rest of the films has no audible problems to me.

Extras: A+
Can't complain, since they're all superb. Is it just me, or am I the only one who doesn't really like art galleries?
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1. I wish more people answered, or a title stayed up longer for people to answer to.

2. The rating is skewered, because report cards for dvd's and blu's are thrown together, which gives a distorted score.
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Goliath wrote:1. I wish more people answered, or a title stayed up longer for people to answer to.

2. The rating is skewered, because report cards for dvd's and blu's are thrown together, which gives a distorted score.
I can wait a little longer. But after I give the topic about two days, it usually falls off the front page.

So far, only 2/5 ratings have had DVDs/Blu-rays. If you think they will work better just one at a time, I can do that from now on.
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Coolmanio wrote:So far, only 2/5 ratings have had DVDs/Blu-rays. If you think they will work better just one at a time, I can do that from now on.
I think you can have them rated at the same time, but when making the 'final' report card, make two seperate ones: one for DVD and one for Blu. Just a suggestion.
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Goliath wrote:
Coolmanio wrote:So far, only 2/5 ratings have had DVDs/Blu-rays. If you think they will work better just one at a time, I can do that from now on.
I think you can have them rated at the same time, but when making the 'final' report card, make two seperate ones: one for DVD and one for Blu. Just a suggestion.
Ah yes, that makes sense. Will do.
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Beauty and the Beast
Presentation: A+
Film: A+
Video: A-
Audio: A+
Extras: A+
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Presentation: A

Unfortunately, this is the one that started the trend of slipcovers (though Warner Bros.'s two-disc digipak movies were in cardboard slipcases). But beyond that, it's an okay design. More or less repeats the format of the 1991 VHS, but it worked well then and works well now. I'd have preferred if they used the red/black Beast & Rose cover (which was the slipcover of the Special Edition Soundtrack).

Film: A+

Beauty and the Beast has always been one of my favorites. Yes, there are story/continuity issues that still bug me. Yes, the animation is uneven. But I still love it all. I've spoken at length about it in other threads, so won't bother repeating it here.

Video: B+
Never mind the color issues, it's the compression issues that are the real problem. On small screens, it's fine. But as the screen gets bigger, the compression becomes more apparent. In addition, the layer change is much too noticeable. The branching is fine between the Theatrical version and the Special Edition. Unfortunately, the Work in Progress that's presented is different from the original release and laserdisc (based on comparing the film with the LD Timing Analysis). Regarding the colors, it is what it is on that release, and while I'm not a fan of it, I respect the filmmakers' decisions.

Audio: A

Can't complain. Though the exclusion of the original four-channel surround is upsetting.

Extras: A (Disc One) B- (Disc Two)

Disc One's supplements are fine (commentary, Maurice's game, sing-along). Can't complain.

For Disc Two, I really dislike how the supplements are divided based on how much or how little a person is interested in supplements (Lumiere & Cogsworth / Mrs. Potts / Chip). Yes, it's a way to make the entire disc family-friendly, but Mrs. Potts ends up being an unnecessary repetitive section (due to the shortened version of the making of, and repeating the 1991 music video), whose only real worthwhile documentary ("The Story Behind The Story") feels like they should just be individual (and longer) featurettes on the movies they covered, rather than a less-than-half-hour overview that we did get. In addition, the Chip section feels like an after-thought, even though it likely got the brunt of the budget (games, new music video, getting the "Evens Stevens" kids to host a feature).

The Lumiere & Cogsworth section is where the real meat and potatoes are, and unfortunately, is leaner than I'd have expected. The documentary tries to incorporate too many people in too little time. While it's understandable that people like the directors and producer get the lion's share of screen time, the limited time given for the entire documentary meant that other interviewees get less than a minute or so of screen time (e.g. Chris Sanders and Vera Lanpher both have probably 2 short snippets from their interviews, and their total screen time is about 1 minute in the entire 51-minute documentary). I'm also still annoyed that the 1991 making-of was not included. A couple minor laserdisc extras also weren't included ("The Four Stages of Animation" and the Theatrical Reviews trailer) either. The various video featurettes that are also included are good, and half are carryovers from the laserdisc, which is understandable. I just wish there had been more archival material included. The galleries are excellent. I miss the "virtual" concept that they had on a few of their DVDs during that time. It eventually did become time-consuming to have to go from room to room, but I loved the docent audio, which went away after Bambi's Platinum.

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Coolmanio wrote:Ah yes, that makes sense. Will do.
Thanks! And thanks for reviving the thread! :)
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yamiiguy wrote:Presentation: A
Blu-Ray packaging is excellent.

Film: B-
Was better than most of the Disney films from the past 10 years but still lacked the magic I feel when I watch Brother Bear and everything that came before it

Video:A+
Flawless 1080p/AVC video, I've never seen such a beautiful palette on my TV.

Audio:A+
Beautiful DTS-HD.

Extras:A-
None of the extras are very interesting but at least their presented in HD and there is a good audio commentary.
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Is it time for a new one yet? :)
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Beauty and the Beast Report Card

Presentation: A
Film: A+
Video:B+
Audio:A
Extras:A

Overall Grade: A- (88%)


Scoreboard:

1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: A (93.4%)
2. Beauty and the Beast: A-(88%)
3. Pocahontas A- (84.3%)
4. Dumbo B+ (82.4%)
5. Princess and the Frog B+ (81.8%)
6. Peter Pan: B+ (78.4%)

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Presentation: B
Not really one of the best covers in my opinion, but the discs are great.
Film: A-
Another one I haven't seen in years, I remember it being decent, but being rather bored during twitterpatting. But the art is amazing, and I think I need to watch this again to get a better sense of it now that I'm older.
Video: A+
Amazing art direction, amazing transfer, it's just breathtaking.
Audio: A
Great score, good songs. I love the sound effects.


Can't comment on extras, since I never went through them.
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