Sen BrownBack wants ban on Half Human - half animal genetics

[Lazario]

Maybe you forgot I said I knew what I sounded like, but I did it to try and prevent something from happening...

Oh, but I did forget to say even though you may (or may not?) believe the world is random, I believe there is both good and bad in the world of course, but good is more powerful and will win in the end, even the very, very end. And it's great that I am just able to believe that at all.

You seem to think there is a true way the world is, a true answer to how everything really is. No. No one knows all the answers for sure! You don't think there's a single person who knows everything, what's all the meaning, what's behind everything, what all the answers to every question are.

So, you don't have to believe everything, including poor innocent children, are bad (children are innocent in that even if they enjoy doing bad things, NO, they don't fully realize what they are doing or how much pain others are in, they often don't connect that people can feel the same as they do when something bad happens to them, they definately don't fully understand death, just like cartoon violence, oh, I could go on forever). Like I said, believe what makes you happy, because if it makes you happy...well, it's certainly doing something, it's existing in the world and it works for you, maybe it is true. After all, no one truly does know for sure.

And you like many fairy tales, and if you get such strong, special feelings from them, you must wonder if they are based in some fact. No, not magical fairies. But the belief that good overcomes evil and you can be saved from death is deeply set in Disney's Sleeping Beauty, something I love about the film and story.

Duster - those are movies. Stories. Works of art. They are not reality.

Looks like I was right on the money about you, all along. I usually feel really good about targetting and pointing out a serious flaw of a person. But, this whole thing has only led me to pity you. It might be really fun to live in your world, but it's not reality.

For all your kind words and your overall message of goodness... I can't help feeling it's nothing but a front. The way you've been unsubtly telling me I'm living an unsatisfying life because I'm not deluded by faith... it's starting to feel forced. Like it's hard sometimes for you yourself to believe your sweetfaced schlocky speeches.

Either way, it's time for your Wake-Up Call:

If this little dance is about you saving other people... Wake up. You can't help anyone by telling them all the b.s. they go through is destiny and that it all will lead them to a magical place after the struggle is over. That is, by textbook definition: A Fairy Tale. It's not reality. Reality - and if you open your eyes, you'll see this - is too random to fit your dreamview of the world. Your whole idea was put into our heads before we had the courage to question what we were being taught. And the common sense to pay attention to life. Which you can't ignore, or there are serious consequences as a result. There are many dire situations you could find yourself in where faith will be revealed for the worthless fluff it really is. You can cry out and pray out and scream out to God all you want to- but he does not listen. And if you believe otherwise, you are admitting you think God cares about you more than he cares about the millions of people who die and have died in the blink of an eye in horrifying disasters and murders.

And really... how Christian is that? On a scale... ? Is it actually very Christian, to think God connects with you more than other people? Because as far as who is there during what horrible deadly event that wipes people out... you can't tell who among those people were more or less in God's favor. If they're dying without God listening - what makes you think "he"s listening to them when they are alive?

So, I'm sorry, Duster, but you can't treat real life like a fairy tale. Children are not as innocent as you think they are. Like all people, they have bad thoughts inside their heads. And many of them act out on those thoughts. To think otherwise, is unwise. And a signal of using idealism to judge things instead of real information and insight gained from experience.

[Disney Duster]

Oh, I didn't see this reply at first...

I do think you may think some things about me that I am not and haven't understood some things I have said and what I have meant by them, but that is probably the case for me of you as well, and is inevitable between differently thinking people let alone through text on an internet forum. But here I go anyway...

You do know that people often put their own beliefs, that they feel are right and, um, believe are real in the stories and movies they make, right? It's almost unpreventable. You want to make some movie that teaches something you disagree with?

Your reply actually reflects something I have wanted to say regarding movies, actually. People want something real in their movies, they constantly say. However, I never got that. Movies are the only way to show what someone thinks, not what everyone else sees in real life. Thus, what is in our minds I feel is more important to show in movies, but anyway...

You talk about looking at real life and getting everything from that. Well, as you know, believing is about using your brain to think what is beyond what is just in front of you. The afterlife and anything spiritual can't be seen in the physical world, so why would anyone look there for what to think about what happens to us after we die? After all, belief is supposed to be so powerful we may only feel it in our hearts and minds, not in any experiences we have, but if it inside us, and the us that is truly who we are and that lives on, what do experiences matter? I rely on myself and what I think, not just what I see in real life, and you may not realize it but you do to, you look at real life and then think about it and make decisions and come up with your beliefs yourself, it's just that I don't only look at experiences. That I can believe in spite of terrible experiences of mine, and of others, is nothing short of amazing.

Anyway, I totally figured something the other day.

If the world was really random, and even we and all life came together randomly from random parts, so everything was random, not right, wrong, good, evil, purpose, meaning...then you couldn't decide to talk to me or decide what to say or think it was right, because according to everything being random, even that would be random. But you wanted to talk to me, to tell me something, you had purpose and meaning. Purpose and meaning can't exist in a completely random world.

Well, despite any of that, at least there's this: we don't know how it is we and everything exists, so, I leave you at least remembering that, if how we started is amazing, and the fact that we started at all and are here is amazing, I figure what will be done with us, what lies for us in the end, or rather not the end since it's eternal, must be amazing as well.

Yes children do good and bad. I knew that. So? I already said, and stress again, children don't fully comprehend...well, anything, let alone death, consequences, or the pain others are in, even the pain they themselves cause and what they are doing. Even doctors and scientists know of their uncomprehension, they in fact tell us how much so. But even despite that, with children, everyone, thinking and doing good and bad things, every person should still be treated well, as they are special and always capable of doing good. As I said, children should be treated as children, and I think maybe adults should be treated more caringly and gently as well.

Thank you for replying, by the way.