Disney Movies G-rated?

[milojthatch]

A load of Bollock, plain and simple.

Schools have permission forms regarding films if they have a PG rating or more. Don't want your kids watching them? Sign in the right space.

Your "standards" are again personal and difficult for film studios to fit with. Even if someone did see any finical sense in making these edited versions, which there isn't that's why they don't exist, what if they somehow got it wrong? And just what are your favorite films sans these "offensive" things?

Your wrong. My teacher in high school never sent those forms home and I know I wasn't alone in that. Others I have talked to have had similar experiances.

Second, I am also talking about even collage. I don't want to have to watch a "R" rated film to get a good grade and this has come up. Once again, I am not alone. And no, i don't much care what YOU think about that frankly. I think living the gay life style is a sin, but have I pushed my views on you over THAT yet? And yet you'll push your views on this on me? Respect is a two way street freind.

Finally, once again, Hollywood already makes the so called "Edited Films." Do you know anything about the WAEA? That is the orginization responcible for maintaining the movies shown on air planes. Here is a question from their web site about "family freidndly" edits:

"Q: I like the “family-friendly” edited version of the movie I saw inflight. Can I get a hold of this airline version?

A:Because of special licensing arrangements between the film studio/distributor and the film producer/director, the “airline-edited” version of the film typically cannot be made available for rental/purchase to the general public. If, however, you wish to inquire, you should contact the Home Video Division of the particular film studio/distributor for the film in which you're interested. (Please note that the airline that exhibited the film does not own the film and cannot provide copies of the airline-edited version.) "

http://www.waea.org/about_waea/faqs.asp#35

So, I actually wrote to Disney, Warner Brothers, Fox, Sony and Parmount. I asked each of them as instructed by this answer if they would sell to me the airline versions. I did not get an answer back from a single one of them. For the last time, THEY ALREADY MAKE THESE VERSIONS! I just want to be able to buy them leagaly from them. If you'd get your head out of the mud maybe you'd hear me this time?

[milojthatch]

Children are robbed of their innocence by watching Disney-films? 'Cause that's what this thread was about: the rating of Disney-films. I'm not in favor of showing 'Kill Bill' or 'Pulp Fiction' to children. But I don't see why Tarantino should edit them to cater to you.

Tarantino is a good example of no edit could ever be enough, so why waste your time? But for the sake of it, he will if he wants more business, and he and others like him are first and for most business men. Anyway, I'm talking more about films like "Spider-Man 2," "Pirates of the Carribean 3," or even "Iron Man." Films that triming a little here or there would not take away from the over all films but would clean it up a lot.

There is once a gain a HUGE market for this and as I have said over and over again, Hollywood already makes these so called "Family Friendly" versions. All I'm asking for is for them to FINALLY sell them to the public here in the USA and even in Canada, Britian and Australia. I'm really not asking for much.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 2 have PG ratings in Canada, what more do you want to clean up? One is already distributed under the Disney name which is synonymous with family entertainment, what bothered you about these films?

I don't care if they do edit them there is still money involved in manufacturing and distributing these titles. If the so called "huge" demand is there then they would make them.

I'd like to see numbers for these so called "HUGE" markets.

Finally, College is for adults and R rated films are meant for an audience over 17 years of age. No professor is going to tailor fit the course to fit your ultra specific needs, with 1,000s of students to teach and mark work he's not going to care if 1 student is offended by an adult film. Cover your eyes/ears if you don't like something. You're should be mature enough to handle those things and understand the context in which it is begin shown (to educate), especially if it's a film course. How many is "others" 2? 3? The vast majority of students from year to year don't care because they have the intelligence to figure out that if they pay for a course for adults, they will be treated as such. It is a privilege to take a college course, not a mandatory right. Respect what is trying to be tought for you, or leave.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

[Goliath]

I think living the gay life style is a sin,

Okay, I am officially DONE talking to you.

(And no, I'm not gay, even though that's none of your business.)

[milojthatch]

Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 2 have PG ratings in Canada, what more do you want to clean up? One is already distributed under the Disney name which is synonymous with family entertainment, what bothered you about these films?

I don't care if they do edit them there is still money involved in manufacturing and distributing these titles. If the so called "huge" demand is there then they would make them.

I'd like to see numbers for these so called "HUGE" markets.

Finally, College is for adults and R rated films are meant for an audience over 17 years of age. No professor is going to tailor fit the course to fit your ultra specific needs, with 1,000s of students to teach and mark work he's not going to care if 1 student is offended by an adult film. Cover your eyes/ears if you don't like something. You're should be mature enough to handle those things and understand the context in which it is begin shown (to educate), especially if it's a film course. How many is "others" 2? 3? The vast majority of students from year to year don't care because they have the intelligence to figure out that if they pay for a course for adults, they will be treated as such. It is a privilege to take a college course, not a mandatory right. Respect what is trying to be tought for you, or leave.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

Watching "R" rated film does not, nor will it ever make you an adult. Sorry to break it to you like that, but actually it a bit more the other way.

The demand IS there, but for reason unknown (or maybe reason that are known but not admitted too) they do not make them available. Do you know anything about the "Family Entertainment and Copyright Act?" Educate yourself:

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?s ... 0i&u=LE1cK

Here is the ABC poll form 2005:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=692068

And for the LAST and zillionth time, THEY ALREADY MAKE THEM! Hollywood already puts in the man hours, time, money and sweat to create the so called "edited" films. This is not anything that they do not already do. They even put them on DVD already for sale in Middle Easter Countries as I have said already.

You claim there is not enough demand for it? That poll would suggest other wise. It would be really simple too. Warner Brothers current has a system where they sell really old movies on their web site that normally may not sell as well if found in stores. They only make copies of these films as they are ordered. There you go, just do the same thing with "edited" films. That easy.

Well, it was fun, but we are done here. There really isn't anything else to say and it kind of was a bit of a detour from the original topic anyway. I think the MPAA is a joke! Ok, back on topic! Thanks for the practice, but please realize at the end of the day, that is all you are. You are not the one I have to convince, I have much bigger fish to fry, but I do thank you for the practice. See you out there...

[milojthatch]

I think living the gay life style is a sin,

Okay, I am officially DONE talking to you.

(And no, I'm not gay, even though that's none of your business.)

That was directed to Flanger-Hanger. Sorry if you felt I directed it at you. When a mob overwhelms me, I just roll up my sleeves and anyone may get hit. Sorry if you got an unfair hit. I was merely pointing out the hippocracy of the situation is all. Just think it's funny the kind of world in which we live and what gets protected and what is open for debate.

But relax, I'm done too. I grow tired of your stubbornness.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Watching "R" rated film does not, nor will it ever make you an adult. Sorry to break it to you like that, but actually it a bit more the other way.

You're an idiot for failing to realize the point of my post. You're too immature to understand the context of why an R rated film would be shown to you in College and will just whine like a 2 year old of the course can't fit your needs.

[Disney's Divinity]

Okay, I am officially DONE talking to you.

(And no, I'm not gay, even though that's none of your business.)

That was directed to Flanger-Hanger. Sorry if you felt I directed it at you. When a mob overwhelms me, I just roll up my sleeves and anyone may get hit. Sorry if you got an unfair hit. I was merely pointing out the hippocracy of the situation is all. Just think it's funny the kind of world in which we live and what gets protected and what is open for debate.

I think he knew who you were talking to, he probably just finds it strange that you bring up someone's personal life in a debate that has nothing to do with it in order to negate their points. Too bad the rest of the world doesn't thrive on such logical arguments.

[Goliath]

I think he knew who you were talking to, he probably just finds it strange that you bring up someone's personal life in a debate that has nothing to do with it in order to negate their points.

I could have handled that (although it is in bad taste), but I don't tolerate hateful remarks directed at people because of their sexual orientation.

That was directed to Flanger-Hanger. Sorry if you felt I directed it at you. When a mob overwhelms me, I just roll up my sleeves and anyone may get hit. Sorry if you got an unfair hit.

HUH? No, no, no! I *got* that it was someone else you were replying to. I just wanted to state that you don't have to expect any answers from me again, since I don't talk with ignorant hatemongers.

[Super Aurora]

atch"]That was directed to Flanger-Hanger. Sorry if you felt I directed it at you. When a mob overwhelms me, I just roll up my sleeves and anyone may get hit. Sorry if you got an unfair hit.

HUH? No, no, no! I *got* that it was someone else you were replying to. I just wanted to state that you don't have to expect any answers from me again, since I don't talk with ignorant hatemongers.[/quote]

LOL It was pretty obvious that this guy would hate gays and is very religious with his republican/conservative viewpoints.

[Lazario]

The earlier Disney films, for decades, remained very non-P.C.

But they'll never change the ratings. Just because the MPAA love and respect most of what Disney has made.

LOL It was pretty obvious that this guy would hate gays and is very religious with his republican/conservative viewpoints.

People who force hateful opinions onto others (in any way) shouldn't be allowed to stay here.

Look, it comes down to respect and freedom of choice. I find it funny how in America, people can sue other people over waving the American flag, the can argue for "equality" with gay rights, they can fight for legalizing drugs or keeping alcohol legal.

I really had no intention of getting involved in any kind of discussion on this, but I have to comment on something here.

If you're going to compare being gay to drugs and alcohol (knowing how much damage they cause)- you know nothing about respect. If you find it disgusting that people get upset about the American flag, you should have respect for what America is really about. Not bashing other people for things you think are "sin"s.

Don't defend yourself when you're passively attacking other people.

[KubrickFan]

I'm just curious as to what kind of films need to be 'sanitized', according to milojthatch. I can't see anything wrong with the Spider-Man films, the Pirates films or Iron Man, and he doesn't like Tarantino's movies. So, what movies do you want to have in an altered version?
And the majority isn't always right. Otherwise every dvd would've filled your screen by now, despite the ratio it was shot in. People need to be educated sometimes.

And being gay is not a lifestyle .

Just my two cents, by the way.

[Lazario]

And being gay is not a lifestyle

Thank you.

When people say that, I just really want to know what they assume we all have in common that makes who we are a Lifestyle... Do we all wear cheesy pink sweaters, play tennis together in a private club and hollar "You go, girl!" everytime it's someone's serve, get together for tea and gab gab gab about all the latest Britney Spears gossip, run down the streets of big cities with rainbow flags jutht to get your attention, and scheme on ways to convert America's children to our way of living at Barbra Streisand concerts?

It's clearly condescending, superioristic nonsense. And the people who say that and have "a problem with" gay people or "disapprove" of us have some serious human respect issues. As a gay man, I'm accepting of every other kind of person. It's something being gay has taught me is important. It's humbling. We're not all like the irritating, high-nosed fashionistas on TV.

And it's 2009 - when the hell are we going to leave the neanderthals in the dust already?

(Sorry for the off-topic-ness, but I'm sick of people being attacked over small things due to b.s. issues of moralization)

[Rudy Matt]

LOL It was pretty obvious that this guy would hate gays and is very religious with his republican/conservative viewpoints.

Now you're offending me, because I'm a Catholic, I lean to the right, but I don't "hate" anyone. I support gay marriage, while opposing abortion and the death penalty.

The only people who bother me are Disney fans who think The Great Mouse Detective and The Aristocats are superior to Fantasia, Pinocchio, Snow White and Bambi. You have no idea how much people like that drive me up the wall.

[Lazario]

LOL It was pretty obvious that this guy would hate gays and is very religious with his republican/conservative viewpoints.

Now you're offending me, because I'm a Catholic, I lean to the right, but I don't "hate" anyone. I support gay marriage, while opposing abortion and the death penalty.

The only people who bother me are Disney fans who think The Great Mouse Detective and The Aristocats are superior to Fantasia, Pinocchio, Snow White and Bambi. You have no idea how much people like that drive me up the wall.

Where? Where? Where?

I think Aristocats is lesser than the 4 you mentioned, but Great Mouse Detective is at least superior to Bambi, if not to the other 3.

And... I'm pure evil and now I'm showing it for real rather than smiley-ing it off:

If you oppose abortion, you don't honestly care about how important the right to one's own body is and you don't care about overpopulation - even though it's DESTROYING this planet.

I am so sorry to everyone who knows how off-topic that was, but I can't keep my mouth shut about issues like these.

[KubrickFan]

And being gay is not a lifestyle

Thank you.

When people say that, I just really want to know what they assume we all have in common that makes who we are a Lifestyle... Do we all wear cheesy pink sweaters, play tennis together in a private club and hollar "You go, girl!" everytime it's someone's serve, get together for tea and gab gab gab about all the latest Britney Spears gossip, run down the streets of big cities with rainbow flags jutht to get your attention, and scheme on ways to convert America's children to our way of living at Barbra Streisand concerts?

It's clearly condescending, superioristic nonsense. And the people who say that and have "a problem with" gay people or "disapprove" of us have some serious human respect issues. As a gay man, I'm accepting of every other kind of person. It's something being gay has taught me is important. It's humbling. We're not all like the irritating, high-nosed fashionistas on TV.

And it's 2009 - when the hell are we going to leave the neanderthals in the dust already?

(Sorry for the off-topic-ness, but I'm sick of people being attacked over small things due to b.s. issues of moralization)

Hey, I'm not even gay, I just felt it needed to be said.
Although I'm an atheist, I don't hate religious people, just narrow-minded people. And unfortunately they can still be found everywhere. As long as you can argue your viewpoints it's fine with me (unless it's scientology )

[Rudy Matt]

If you oppose abortion, you don't honestly care about how important the right to one's own body is and you don't care about overpopulation - even though it's DESTROYING this planet.

Well, I do care about the right to protect one's own body. Which is why I care about people who can't speak and their right to protect their body. As in the unborn.

As for overpopulation, the answer to that is education, not genocide.

[ajmrowland]

In the end, we definitely need to rework how History is taught in the classroom. I was taught History by taking notes as I read the textbook, and I learned to associate different events with current ones. Also, History as taught in the normal school can be pretty boring to many, and they just brush it off. People need to learn not to brush it off.

[Super Aurora]

Now you're offending me, because I'm a Catholic, I lean to the right, but I don't "hate" anyone. I support gay marriage, while opposing abortion and the death penalty.

Sorry. I didn't even know you were a righty. But come'on, you have to admit that more likely you'll find an extremely religious and conservative person bashing on gays than you would find liberal or atheist doing same thing. As much as stereotype it may seem, there significant truth to what's being said.

[Rudy Matt]

Actually, the most "gay-bashing" people I've ever known were people who were themselves gay. The angriest and most hate-filled people I've ever known in my life were gay. I worked in Hollywood for 12 years years, I've seen a LOT of hate, for a LOT of people, far more than I ever saw growing up in the South.