Disney Movies G-rated?

[DisneyJedi]

This might sound ridiculous, but I've been thinking lately. A lot of Disney's films are G-rated, when some of the moments in some films could spell out a PG-rating for them.

For example:

- Snow White, with the whole forest scene and other scary moments [Okay, so the PG rating wasn't invented then, but still!]

- Pinocchio, the boy-to-donkey transformations

- Bambi

- Sleeping Beauty

- The Fox and the Hound, some scenes could terrify little kids with this

- The Great Mouse Detective

- Oliver & Company, the dog fight, Dodger vs. Roscoe and DeSoto, seemed pretty intense, and besides, wouldn't a dog bite be enough to draw blood?

- The Little Mermaid, Ariel was practically naked!

- The Hunchback of Notre Dame

- Tarzan, a few scenes almost screamed PG-rating here!

- The dead rat display in Ratatouille

So.... I hope you understand where I'm going with this

[ajmrowland]

I think you need to lighten up. Kids are far more tolerant of many things than most adults would think. You're asking if the rating should be raised? I say "no", because it may only hinder the BO performance of each film. I know where your coming from, but it wouldn't be wise to rate these films PG, especially since the MPAA seem to have already handed their credibility to the devil.

[yukitora]

In australia a number of those films do have a PG rating (our classification system has different threasholds than yours, but the general distinction between G and PG are the same). However for some reasons they seem to be giving any of the pre-renaissance disney features automatic G ratings when they are by far more intense than the latter films. Tarzan got a PG for it's plentiful voilence, but Bambi got a G? It had birds exploding on screen

[DisneyJedi]

In australia a number of those films do have a PG rating (our classification system has different threasholds than yours, but the general distinction between G and PG are the same). However for some reasons they seem to be giving any of the pre-renaissance disney features automatic G ratings when they are by far more intense than the latter films. Tarzan got a PG for it's plentiful voilence, but Bambi got a G? It had birds exploding on screen

Birds literally exploded on screen??

Well, I had heard that Ratatouille got PG in the UK b/c according to British terms, "Bloody" is a swear word.

[Mayhem]

Though Americans seem to take more offence at times to "bloody" than we do here, "bloody" is a word of life to me

Afaik all Disney animated films here in the UK were rated U apart from Black Cauldron which was PG.

[UmbrellaFish]

The rating system was first put in use in the late 1960s in America, so I'd say a lot of the G-ratings were tacked on because they were "Disney" films.

[DisneyJedi]

The rating system was first put in use in the late 1960s in America, so I'd say a lot of the G-ratings were tacked on because they were "Disney" films.

But what if the movies I mentioned had been released after or around the 60s? Would that earn them a higher MPAA rating?

TBH, I kind of wish some of Disney's films could be a little more realistic. For instance, for each cut or bite inflicted, shouldn't there be blood? I mean, wolves can actually cut and/or bite you enough to draw blood. If you look carefully, after the wolf fight, the Beast has a few blood oozing cuts on his arm.

[PixarFan2006]

I am not sure if this counts or not, but the movie Cars uses the word "Hell" twice and Ratatouille uses it once.

[DisneyJedi]

I am not sure if this counts or not, but the movie Cars uses the word "Hell" twice and Ratatouille uses it once.

Well, that depends on how you use the word "Hell". It would only count as a swear if you used it like this:

- "What the hell?"

- "This is gonna be major hell on me"

- "The hell I am"

- "Like Hell I'll......"

It's not really a swear if you talk about the place, or stuff pertaining to Hell, such as hellfire, fires of hell, or just the place in general.

BTW, who says "Hell" and when/where in Cars?

[gregmasciola]

BTW, who says "Hell" and when/where in Cars?

At one point, McQueen says "I'm in Hillbilly Hell!"

[ajmrowland]

I am not sure if this counts or not, but the movie Cars uses the word "Hell" twice and Ratatouille uses it once.

Well, that depends on how you use the word "Hell". It would only count as a swear if you used it like this:

- "What the hell?"

- "This is gonna be major hell on me"

- "The hell I am"

- "Like Hell I'll......"

It's not really a swear if you talk about the place, or stuff pertaining to Hell, such as hellfire, fires of hell, or just the place in general.

What about telling someone to "go to Hell"? It can be considered a swearword, if used like that.

[Disney Villain]

I am not sure if this counts or not, but the movie Cars uses the word "Hell" twice and Ratatouille uses it once.

Sleeping Beauty also uses the word "Hell". Right before she transforms into the dragon Maleficent says, "now shall you deal with me oh prince- and all the powers of hell!"

[littlefuzzy]

In video game terms, people may see the "G" rating as an "EC" rating (Early Childhood), while video games actually have a couple of different "E" ratings:

EARLY CHILDHOOD
Titles rated EC (Early Childhood) have content that may be suitable for ages 3 and older. Contains no material that parents would find inappropriate.

EVERYONE
Titles rated E (Everyone) have content that may be suitable for ages 6 and older. Titles in this category may contain minimal cartoon, fantasy or mild violence and/or infrequent use of mild language.

EVERYONE 10+
Titles rated E10+ (Everyone 10 and older) have content that may be suitable for ages 10 and older. Titles in this category may contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal suggestive themes.

I would think some of the examples above might be closer to "Everyone 10+" or at least "Everyone" as opposed to "Early Childhood."

Maybe the Everyone 10+ rating would be closer to PG, video games already have a rating similar to PG-13: - "Teen" Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

[Siren]

I still feel Hunchback deserved a PG rating. Not knocking it at all mind you, but even though Disney toned it down, it still, I was shocked it was rated G after seeing it. Still enjoyed it (cept the damn gargoyles)

[goofystitch]

I don't think the MPAA gives out PG ratings for mildly frightening moments, such as the ones illustrated above. If you look at the Disney and Pixar animated films that have PG ratings, they either have scenes that are too violent or material that is to crude to receive a G rating. Here are some examples:

The Black Cauldron: One instance of blood and many fights between Taran and the cauldron born.

Dinosaur: Instances of blood and intense violence, including character getting eaten.

Atlantis: The Lost Empire: Instances of violence and gun fights with other humans.

Treasure Planet: Instances of violence including main characters being shot at.

Home on the Range: Potty humor that goes beyond the confines of a G rating.

Bolt: Violence, including main characters being shot at, and potty humor.

The Incredibles: Violence.

Up: Two instances of blood in addition to violence in which main characters are shot at.

Some of the films that UDers are suggesting should be re-rated would still come out G. "Scary scenes" in Snow White, Pinocchio, Bambi, Sleeping Beauty, Fox and the Hound, etc... don't warrant a PG rating. If a scene was really too intense, then maybe, but the scenes mentioned are not too intense for G. The Little Mermaid was mentioned for a scene in which Ariel is "practically naked," but what matters is whether or not anything is shown. No nudity appeared, not even a butt crack, so the G rating should stick.

To sum things up, dead animals, scary moments, and most violence that doesn't include a weapon or isn't from one human to another is passable for a G rating. Therefore, we don't need to scrutinize or claim that the MPAA should re-rate these films. We've all seen them. If you don't think it's suitable for your child, then don't let them watch it. It's as simple as that.

Besides, depending on the year, the MPAA changes its mind all the time about what criteria qualify for each rating. Some years they are more lenient and others they are more strict. I am not a parent, but I won't be trusting the MPAA when it comes to what my children see. I'll watch the films myself to make sure the movie is suitable.

[Siren]

For Hunchback, I wasn't talking about mildly frightening....I meant the sexual stuff. Frollo smelling Esmeralda's hair, the vision of her (at times appearing naked) dancing in the fire.

[Super Aurora]

For Hunchback, I wasn't talking about mildly frightening....I meant the sexual stuff. Frollo smelling Esmeralda's hair, the vision of her (at times appearing naked) dancing in the fire.

and the scarf.

[goofystitch]

Smelling her doesn't constitute PG because it is WAY over kids heads. She also doesn't appear naked in the fire. The fire draws lines to suggest her image as Claude Frolo envisions her. Naturally, her body parts are defined, but the lines also suggest thin clothing. Its not like she has nipples or anything. Rating it PG for that reason would be like not letting kids undress a Barbie because then she would be "naked," even though her private parts aren't there, not even butt cheeks.

[Siren]

For Hunchback, I wasn't talking about mildly frightening....I meant the sexual stuff. Frollo smelling Esmeralda's hair, the vision of her (at times appearing naked) dancing in the fire.

and the scarf.

Actually the whole stripper dance....which apparently they used Demi Moore's scene from Striptease as a model for it.

Frankly, I am not here to argue that Hunchback should have been PG because its some firm belief of mine to protect children here. My daughter watched the movie for the first time when she was 3. I just feel between the violence, adult themes, and sexual innuendos, it deserved a PG rating. Heck, Last Unicorn had the word "damn" and "hell" a few times and a bunch of idiot soccor moms complained so much the new reissue (restored and widescreen) was censored! And even with the few minor curse words, TLU was still a G rating IMO, with maybe close to PG due to 3 exposed breasts on a harpy and the breasts of the tree.

And actually, according to an interview I read about the female animator who did the scene of Frollo smelling Esmeralda's hair, the scene was much longer and was one of the main reasons the movie nearly got a PG rating. They cut the scene down quite a bit. We only see a fraction of what it was originally.

Its very clear to children that Frollo is attracted to her and she wants none of it. He holds her forcibly, smelling and kissing her hair...a child wouldn't know he probably got a boner doing that, but they'd know Frollo was pushing his limits with her.

[DisneyJedi]

I don't recall any potty humor in Bolt. Well, aside from a reference of Mittens telling him that dogs drink out of a toilet.