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Ahhhhhhh I'll be watching it in about 2 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The animation is better than the second movie.

Though the part when Marina is having her nails done and she dips them in the bowl, there is a definitely liquid splash sound...how is that possible when they are already under water? I guess they have the same logic as when Spongebob takes a bath.
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Well,it could be made of... something else that water can't effact.
It is in annyoing in Spongebob,I like that the series takes place underwater but it doesn't even reminds me of water at all exept the bubbles,they walk on the ocean floor insted of swimming,the fishes have fins that looks like legs and the waters's suerface are just flowers and those times where they take a bath or go to beach.
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Poody wrote:Ahhhhhhh I'll be watching it in about 2 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so excited for you! Hope you have fun! (Well, had fun, since you probably won't see this until you come back, lol)
Siren wrote:The animation is better than the second movie.
Agreed.
Siren wrote:Though the part when Marina is having her nails done and she dips them in the bowl, there is a definitely liquid splash sound...how is that possible when they are already under water? I guess they have the same logic as when Spongebob takes a bath.
Well, in the series, they have Triton and his turtle-friend taking baths, and the water overflowed... then again, it might not be oil. You have to consider density and all that. But yeah, probably like Spongebob logic.
Ariel'sprince wrote:Well,it could be made of... something else that water can't effact.
It is in annyoing in Spongebob,I like the series take place underwater but it doesn't even reminds me of water at all exept the bubbles,they walk on the ocean floor insted of swimming,the fishes have fins that looks like legs and the waters's suerface are just flowers and those times where they take a bath or go to beach.
It's just a kids show that takes place underwater. The point of the show is the comedy, not the realism.
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Have fun, Poody!
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If it was oil, it would float. Stuff like that are just pet peeves of mine.
Don't get me wrong, I know a cartoon is a cartoon and it is very much a fantasy, but there still needs to be a bit of logic there. Another illogical cartoon thing: The fact the male cow in the movie/tv series Barnyard has an utter....Hermaphrodite perhaps? :lol:
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Old Fish Tale wrote:More free screenings!
Has anyone read this?
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Vermin Friends wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote:Well,it could be made of... something else that water can't effact.
It is in annyoing in Spongebob,I like the series take place underwater but it doesn't even reminds me of water at all exept the bubbles,they walk on the ocean floor insted of swimming,the fishes have fins that looks like legs and the waters's suerface are just flowers and those times where they take a bath or go to beach.
It's just a kids show that takes place underwater. The point of the show is the comedy, not the realism.
That means not making sense at all?.
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Ariel'sprince wrote:
Vermin Friends wrote: It's just a kids show that takes place underwater. The point of the show is the comedy, not the realism.
That means not making sense at all?.
Apparently. I think they ought to show a little more originality. For instance, I remember in the tv show, Triton didn't ground his children, he "beached" them. I LOVED the play on words. Stuff like that I find pretty cool, because it shows the writers put a little more thought into the tiny details, that really don't matter, but make the story and characters more believable.
Another example....in Finding Nemo...before they went to the surface, they took a deep breath underwater. When I first saw the movie, it made me smile, not because it was funny, but because it was cool to see how much thought the writers put into those minor details.
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I just wanted to start this post out by thanking everyone who had a part in making those videos available for download. I have been watching them almost every day for the past two weeks. Thank you! I also wanted to say thanks to everyone who commented on my signature and you’re all very welcome for those “keep oceans clean” video clips. I’ve stayed away from this thread for too long.

Poody I hope you had a wonderful time watching Ariel’s Beginning. You have no idea how jealous I am.

For the past few months this film has literally consumed me. I cannot remember ever being this excited for a Disney sequel. I’ve been trying to put all the pieces of the puzzle together and I truly believe Marina is Ursula. As I’ve said before, why in world would Disney go through the trouble of creating an entirely new Villain from scratch, use electric eels, and have Marina say things like "my darlings" when they already established Ursula? It makes NO SENSE to me. Why would you go about creating a film that is meant to explain and answer all the mysteries of The Little Mermaid and leave the most important back story (Ursula) out? The electric eels things in particular really stuck out to me. I don’t think it’s all some big coincidence. Then I saw a picture from a 3-disc boxed set, from Japan of all three Little Mermaid films, and I noticed something:

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If you look closely you can see that swimming around Marina are Flotsam and Jetsam. Here is a closer look:

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Also on the Ariel’s Beginning official site, there is a game called “Sebastian’s Scuttle”. In the game you have to help Sebastian dodge obstacles and find Athena’s music box. One of the many things, besides electric eels and jelly fish, that cause trouble for Sebastian are octopus tentacles. Here is a look:

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Old Fish Tale wrote:More free screenings!
Has anyone read this?
I have, and thank you for posting. Unfortunately none of those screenings are near me. I wish there were some in New York or in New Jersey.
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Siren wrote:If it was oil, it would float. Stuff like that are just pet peeves of mine.
I meant to say "It might not be water", but "oil" came out instead. lol Sorry.
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Vermin Friends wrote: It's just a kids show that takes place underwater. The point of the show is the comedy, not the realism.
That means not making sense at all?.
Not necessarily- I'm just saying it doesn't need to make sense, because it is a children's show. Now if they decided to air it on National Geographic, then it would have to make sense, since the shows on NG are reliable sources of information, opposed to Spongebob Squarepants.

Lastly- I've been thinking of a way they could get away with Marina not being revealed as Ursula, but maybe hinting it- at the last minute, they could have a closeup on Marina saying something that Ursula had originally said, "I'll make him writhe, I'll see him wriggle like a worm on a hook!" and then close up on her eyes, fade to black, her eyes are still there... oh well. I just thought it would be cool. :( lol

Old Fish Tale, yes I've seen it- thanks for posting it, but I live in Hawaii. lol
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But there was one! Click here!
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Siren wrote:If it was oil, it would float. Stuff like that are just pet peeves of mine.
Don't get me wrong, I know a cartoon is a cartoon and it is very much a fantasy, but there still needs to be a bit of logic there. Another illogical cartoon thing: The fact the male cow in the movie/tv series Barnyard has an utter....Hermaphrodite perhaps? :lol:
That reminds me of a scene in the original little mermaid. At the end of part of your world right before Ariel goes to the surface to see Eric's ship Sebastian says: "Come lets go home and get you something warm to drink." Ariel: "What do you suppose?"

I always wondered...how and what exactly do mermaids drink?
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I unfortunately did not get any tickets for the advanced screening i my area :(
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Vermin Friends wrote: Lastly- I've been thinking of a way they could get away with Marina not being revealed as Ursula, but maybe hinting it- at the last minute, they could have a closeup on Marina saying something that Ursula had originally said, "I'll make him writhe, I'll see him wriggle like a worm on a hook!" and then close up on her eyes, fade to black, her eyes are still there... oh well. I just thought it would be cool. :( lol

Old Fish Tale, yes I've seen it- thanks for posting it, but I live in Hawaii. lol
Adding onto this:

Before they fade to black, they should have Marinna start to laugh, fade to black and the laugh gradually turns into Ursualas laugh....
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ok ok ok I just got home..... It was great!

Major spoiler alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll change the text to white....


Marina Del Ray is not Ursula and has nothing to do with her. The opening scene with Ariel's mother was really good a very "Disney Fairytale" opening like.... without a storybook or anything.

The music was so-so. There wasn't that much, consider it's "banned" and everything.... :P Ariel's "I Remember" is a nice, but it's really the only song she sings.... other than a few other parts.Her sisters were all really funny in the movie.

I'd say this was much better than Mermaid II, though the climax and ending weren't as good. The storyline was still a little too TV-series. Nothing "bad" enough happened.... :lol: I think it was as good as Cinderella III! A must see! :P Especially for Little Mermaid fans.


Oh... and it got a big applause at the end! :lol: 8) 8)
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Cant say im not surprised. Oh well thats what fanficition is for.

So its not anything mind-blowing right? Atleast you said it was good and not horriable.

Still cant wait to see it though!
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Disney Villain, people have noticed those eels near the purple mermaid villainess before. Also, previously you said the film takes place 13 years later, but in both books it says the film takes place ten years later. 10 years after Ariel is a piano-playing toddler.

OKAY EVERYBODY...Poody reveals about Marina Del Ray, so do not go saying anything about it. You must be very careful, you could easily talk about it accidently, even just revealing who she is by talking about something else that has to do with her. Unless...does everyone in here want to know right now if she is or she isn't related to Ursula's family? Everyone has to say yes or no. And even then, maybe there will be something added onto the DVD that changes something!

Poody, in white: Sorry, how the hell is a TV-series plot where nothing bad happens, we don't have a very good villain, and Ariel sings one okay song, anywhere near as good as Cinderella III with the twisting, exciting movie plot, lots of bad, interesting things happen, and we have a great villain with added power, and Cinderella sings a pretty song? Make sure you don't just love this sequel because you love The Little Mermaid so much. Write back in white.
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jeremy88 wrote:
Siren wrote:If it was oil, it would float. Stuff like that are just pet peeves of mine.
Don't get me wrong, I know a cartoon is a cartoon and it is very much a fantasy, but there still needs to be a bit of logic there. Another illogical cartoon thing: The fact the male cow in the movie/tv series Barnyard has an utter....Hermaphrodite perhaps? :lol:
That reminds me of a scene in the original little mermaid. At the end of part of your world right before Ariel goes to the surface to see Eric's ship Sebastian says: "Come lets go home and get you something warm to drink." Ariel: "What do you suppose?"

I always wondered...how and what exactly do mermaids drink?
:lol: Never thought of that one! I know it is possible for underwater animals to drink. Afterall, many marine mammals have to get mother's milk. But unless mermaids drink from bottles, I doubt its gonna happen underwater...Maybe Sebastian meant to get some warm water near the underwater springs/volcano. It would be warm there.
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Disney Duster wrote: Poody, in white: Sorry, how the hell is a TV-series plot where nothing bad happens, we don't have a very good villain, and Ariel sings one okay song, anywhere near as good as Cinderella III with the twisting, exciting movie plot, lots of bad, interesting things happen, and we have a great villain with added power, and Cinderella sings a pretty song? Make sure you don't just love this sequel because you love The Little Mermaid so much. Write back in white.
Well Poody obviously thinks it is good enough to compare next to Cinderella3 since they have different standards as to what makes a good movie as does everyone.

Just as with LM2, plenty of people hate the movie but you cant blame anyone for enjoying the movie for what it is.
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jeremy88 wrote: That reminds me of a scene in the original little mermaid. At the end of part of your world right before Ariel goes to the surface to see Eric's ship Sebastian says: "Come lets go home and get you something warm to drink." Ariel: "What do you suppose?"

I always wondered...how and what exactly do mermaids drink?
:lol: Never thought of that one! I know it is possible for underwater animals to drink. Afterall, many marine mammals have to get mother's milk. But unless mermaids drink from bottles, I doubt its gonna happen underwater...Maybe Sebastian meant to get some warm water near the underwater springs/volcano. It would be warm there.
I think underwater life in LM is very different from what we all know. When you think about it by real life terms, not much of the movie/series makes sense. How does everything in Ariels secret lair stop from floating up and away. She has forks, paintings, etc...

I always wondered how you can have all these "intellegient" animals under the sea then you have other animals who cant speak or anything, they are just wild.

Its just really magical underneith there.
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