Pirates of the Caribbean 3: At World's End Poster, News, etc

[Disney-Fan]

Did anyone else see this THX opening besides me?

No, I didn't see it. I'll have to wait for the DVD release.
Could you possibly describe it for those of us who weren't lucky enough to catch it?

[kbehm29]

I didn't see the THX beginning either. I hope it will be on the DVD.

As for POTC 4, I think it's a great idea as long as Will and Elizabeth aren't in it....their story should be closed for good now. Bring on some fresh ideas and some new main characters. But please - leave Barbossa in it! He was awesome in At World's End.

[Okie Tigger]

No THX. Got a new Dolby bit with Seinfeld the bee that was pretty good.

[PapiBear]

I feel depressed today.

In looking over all the photos of the movie, and of the premiere at Disneyland (Johnny's shaved off his beard, Orlando's cut his hair, etc.), in seeing videos of the new Pirate's Lair and of the premiere at the El Capitan (Naomie Harris showed up and gave an introduction to the film), and having seen the film last Saturday, even though there's talk of a 4th film that may come in a few more years, I find myself sad to say goodbye to all these characters.

I mean, I don't get it. I'm a 40 year old man and I'm sitting here, emotional, with tears in my eyes and a sincerely heavy heart, depressed about this movie series concluding. I loved the first two films and I looked forward to this one, but I haven't been particularly "fannish" about them. I don't collect anything related to them (I have the DVD of the first film and I've been sort of waiting for a price drop on the 2nd film's DVD, but that's it), I haven't bought any books on it, and I haven't really been involved in any POTC fan groups or anything like that. I've followed the progress of the film production here and there online over the past couple of years, and I've explored some pirate history and looked up info on some of the shooting locations, and watched or read a few interviews, but that's pretty much it. I'm just very attached to the films themselves.

Honestly, I think my heart has been touched by Tia Dalma and Naomie Harris' performance. Something about her just moves me very deeply, I can't explain it. I feel a tingle when she talks onscreen, pleasant shivers of delight, if you will. I'm just enraptured when she's front and center. I can't take my eyes off her. I really find her story interesting, and I'd like to know more about her (the character, although Naomie Harris is an interesting person in her own right as well). But seeing as how her character pretty much is only in the last two films, even as Ms. Harris said (at the El Capitan appearance) that she was sad to say goodbye to the character, I find myself sad also, because now I don't have more of her to look forward to in any future films (I mean, she MIGHT be brought back, but it's probably doubtful).

As I look back on the three films, it becomes clear to me that this is a GREAT film series, truly great. And of course we'll always have the films to watch and rewatch again and again on DVD. But I'm just sad because, at least for the next few years, it's pretty much the end. And I hate saying goodbye to people, and to characters, that I love, especially if I'm just getting to know them.

I dunno, I just haven't felt this emotional about a movie since Return of the Jedi came out 24 years ago and I soon realized that there wouldn't be anymore Star Wars films with Han, Luke, and Leia. There'd be nothing to speculate about and look forward to in anticipation. And that's just depressing to me.

Also, since I'm in a vulnerable, ego-free moment, I wanted to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone who's gotten mad at me or been upset by things I've said. I know I've been rude sometimes, and I'm sorry. I'll try better to be nicer to everyone.

[Okie Tigger]

Not sure what to say about your post except...

I think the Pirates films are my favorite trilogy behind Indy

and

I have a mint, watched once 2 disc DMC dvd if you want to make an offer

[blackcauldron85]

Awww, PapiBear! Don't be sad! You could always read fan-fiction, and then the characters will live on forever!

(And, as a side note, I think it'd big of you to apologize on here. I know I appreciate it, as will others. )

[kbehm29]

I'm a 30-yr-old woman and I feel the same way about this series of movies. To the point that I get upset with people who don't see them in the same light as I do. I can't stop thinking about them.....lol it doesn't make sense.

I really am holding out hope that the 4th movie will be just as successful, and won't ruin the previous three.

Johnny really does look different in real life, hey? I prefer him with the dreadlocks, actually. But I'm biased - my whole family (except me) has dredloks (misspelled intentionally). My five-year-old's are down past his shoulders. My youngest two sons have never had a haircut in their life.

[Disney-Fan]

I wanted to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone who's gotten mad at me or been upset by things I've said. I know I've been rude sometimes, and I'm sorry. I'll try better to be nicer to everyone.

Much appreciated. Right back at ya!
I share your pain about these characters. I guess now we'll have to see how strong our DVD copies really are.

[PapiBear]

I'm a 30-yr-old woman and I feel the same way about this series of movies. To the point that I get upset with people who don't see them in the same light as I do. I can't stop thinking about them.....lol it doesn't make sense.

It doesn't, does it? That's the frustrating thing - we know we're supposedly old enough not to be affected like this, but for some strange reason, this film series has just gotten me in that way. I never would have expected it. It's not exactly like it's disrupting my life or anything, it's just probably a mild obsession.

Sometimes movies for me are like going to a party - there are all sorts of interesting people there, but one or two in particular catch your fancy, and you want to spend time with them and get to know them more, directly. But, with a movie, if that character isn't the lead, chances are you'll be left with dozens of questions about that interesting person. And if they depart from the story, you're like, "but...but....but...." And Naomie Harris' performance of Tia Dalma is so strong, so real, so human, that I just feel like I want to sit and talk with her a while, about whatever comes to mind. Hang out with her. Go for ice cream, anything. She's just that intriguing to me.

I really am holding out hope that the 4th movie will be just as successful, and won't ruin the previous three.

Me too, although I think it'd have to be really, REALLY terrible to ruin the previous three, and I don't think that'd be the case.

Johnny really does look different in real life, hey? I prefer him with the dreadlocks, actually. But I'm biased - my whole family (except me) has dredloks (misspelled intentionally). My five-year-old's are down past his shoulders. My youngest two sons have never had a haircut in their life.

[PapiBear]

I have a mint, watched once 2 disc DMC dvd if you want to make an offer

Thank you, OT, I appreciate that. Unfortunately I can't PM you, so I can't provide any personal info or negotiate the deal. But I do appreciate you offering. If things change and you still have it I'll be glad to take it off your hands.

[PapiBear]

Awww, PapiBear! Don't be sad! You could always read fan-fiction, and then the characters will live on forever!

Yes, this is true. I did join a Tia Dalma community on LiveJournal that seems to have some fan-fiction writers on it.

What I'd really love, in lieu of an actual film about it, would be an official novel detailing the whole backstory of Davy Jones, Calypso, the 10 years, the first Brethren Court, and how Calypso became Tia Dalma and wound up in that little swamp shack on that island. The films sort of toss out bits and pieces, but there's enough of an epic love story there to be fleshed out more fully.

[blackcauldron85]

PapiBear, that's a good idea about the book! I wonder if Disney makes a prequel if any of those issues will be dealt with. But, a book detailing the lives of the characters would be cool.

[Siren]

About Tai Dalma. I can certainly agree she is a fantastic character. African American actors and actresses have come a long way. And to see her portray a GODDESS of all things. And have her preformance so well recieved. She is by far one of the best characters in the series. And also the best least used, which is very unfortunate. I love her attitude.

"if you don't want it....give it back." I laugh out loud everytime to that.

If they do make another one or a spin off, I hope she is included and has a bigger part. If allowed, she could really flesh out the character. A novel or movie like you mentioned Papi, I would SO be there.

[UmbrellaFish]

Well, there already is a Jack Sparrow series of books by Robert Kidd. I own each of them, but I've only had the chance to read the first book. I've noticed that on Barnes and Noble that the next book dealt with Davey Jones. It's possible we may get some more information about Tia Dalma there. Not completly sure, though.

[Prudence]

Since this entire thread has spoilers, I'll simply come out and say it -

I truly miss James Norrington. He is the first Disney character that I have found myself attached to who actually dies. (No, he is not the first fictional character or historical figure I have loved who dies. However....ugh, he was sorely underrated in this movie and his death was so needless.) I can't believe that I miss him, almost as if he were a real person, but I do. I think it's because I saw so many elements of people dear to me and of myself in this man, and because I clearly understood his motives - as well as his heart - throughout the entire trilogy. Rest in peace, James Norrington. My friend Valery made this video in his honor -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6lNcwGn2EA

Tissues recommended while viewing.

[Siren]

I must say, in the first movie, I despised him. I didn't think he really LOVED her. Lust more likely. I knew he didn't need her for money or power. He seemed to be doing just fine. But I guess I missed the point in the first movie. The second movie, he became far more likeable. And this new one, I certainly do see him as a hero. I look back on the last two movies and see how he's changed. He really didn't change much. The biggest thing that changed is that he doesn't trust a piece of paper that states a law, he trusts his heart. He let Elizabeth go because he loved her. I didn't see that at first. I didn't understand the love for him. I do now After seeing the third one.

[Disney Duster]

Disneykid, this goes out directly to you, in spoiler-free white:
I think the reason Bootstrap Bill was all tripped out and didn't even recognize his own son was because the ship was taking over him and making him forget. It was changing him. I actually thought it was kind of obvious because this was the first time we saw him in the wall, as part of the ship. In becoming the ship, he was losing his humanity, and his memory/sanity. I was actually a little sad when after Elizabeth woke him up from sleeping in the wall, and he said his son was coming for him, he went back into the wall, was waken up again, and forgot that he had already met her and talked with her just a second ago. That's what I thought occured, anyway.

Ummm, next thing:
Are you sure the green flash was only there to represent Will returning for good? If he goes to take souls to the land of the dead, wouldn't he technically be returning to Earth everytime he came back, and the green flash would there every ten years anyway?

PapiBear, I loved Tia Dalma too, (people complained about her accent beinmg hard to understand but it made her interesting and it was sexy), but I liked her more in DMC. AWE strangely mis-used her. Like she wasn't a character anymore, just a love object for Davy and a way of making the end battle cool. What was with that? And I'll be honest, when she was unleashed I expected her to become wind or ocean in the shape of her face. She became crabs. WTF?! She deserved better than that.

But she performed sooooo well when she was released. In fact, my favorite pirate, Ragetti, and my favorite gal, Tia, were in that magical moment together. It was cool. And when she talked in that deep voice it was scary and powerful!

But crabs? Come on.

Oh, and that apology was a really bold move. Thank you for it. Hey, never stop speaking your mind and how you really feel, okay?

[PapiBear]

About Tai Dalma. I can certainly agree she is a fantastic character. African American actors and actresses have come a long way.

I know what you meant, but Naomie Harris isn't American. She's Black British, or more specifically British African-Caribbean (her mother's Jamaican, her father's Trinidadian). No worries, though. Just a friendly reminder that ethnicity and nationality aren't always the same.

And to see her portray a GODDESS of all things. And have her preformance so well recieved. She is by far one of the best characters in the series. And also the best least used, which is very unfortunate. I love her attitude.

"if you don't want it....give it back." I laugh out loud everytime to that.

She's an amazing character. I simply haven't had my fill of her yet.

If they do make another one or a spin off, I hope she is included and has a bigger part. If allowed, she could really flesh out the character. A novel or movie like you mentioned Papi, I would SO be there.

I would love that, and I do hope that happens (I'm sure Naomie Harris would love to play her again as well, it's been huge for her career and it's just a meaty character for any actor), but I'm not particularly confident that they'll bring her back, unless it would make sense to do so, storywise. I wouldn't want her brought back just for show or to hang around.

I noticed there's a term that Pintel refers to her (in the scene where they're all freezing) that isn't particularly common, too: Obeah woman. It's accurate, but I bet it has a lot of people who caught that line looking it up.

[PapiBear]

Since this entire thread has spoilers, I'll simply come out and say it -

I truly miss James Norrington. He is the first Disney character that I have found myself attached to who actually dies. (No, he is not the first fictional character or historical figure I have loved who dies. However....ugh, he was sorely underrated in this movie and his death was so needless.) I can't believe that I miss him, almost as if he were a real person, but I do. I think it's because I saw so many elements of people dear to me and of myself in this man, and because I clearly understood his motives - as well as his heart - throughout the entire trilogy. Rest in peace, James Norrington. My friend Valery made this video in his honor -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6lNcwGn2EA

Tissues recommended while viewing.

I have to agree, I thought Norrington's character was rather needlessly done away with this time around, especially so after having been so significant to the plot of the second film in particular.

[rexcrk]

I was also a little sad to see Norrington die, especially being killed by the psychotic Bootstrap Bill "PART OF THE SHIP PART OF THE CREW *STAB STAB STAB*"

It's funny though, I also did not like Norrington in the first movie, and kind of grew to like him in the second and third ones.

On the subject of sad deaths, that scene when Elizabeth sees her dead father was pretty sad to. I'm surprised they did away with Governor Swann.

On the other hand, Beckett and Mercer got what was coming to them (I loved when Davey murdered Mercer, that was so awesome!)

The fourth movie sounds very interesting, and if done right it will be as great as the others.