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magicalwands wrote:When Snow White was singing in the forest diverging the trees, was that a reference to Walt Disney's Snow White because they even had her voice "beatened down" as if it was a recording made from long ago with an old microphone.
Her whole appearance was very reminiscent of Disney's Snow White as well. The short black hair with the bow, the puf-things at the shoulders, and the same dress model was all totally Disney.
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I saw it today. Not as funny as I hoped.

A few jokes I can remember off hand that had be LOLing...

Julie Andrews Mary Poppins joke. I was the ONLY one in the theater who got it. Apparently I was surrounded by uncultured swine. :lol:
Puss as Donkey trying to do the sad eyes
Puss coming out of the water....I'm suprised he didn't leave marks on Shrek's head.
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Merlin playing the music for Arthur and Shrek
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Dronkeys....not very laughable, but they are so damn cute :D

Justin's preformance was neither bad nor good. Any cookie cutter actor could have done it. He was just kinda boring.

The whole Shrek's having kids thing made me roll my eyes before I saw it. But then the movie was not about Shrek having kids. It was more about Shrek realizing he's gonna become a father. And that's not the same thing. Arthur was his way of showing himself he's got it in him to be a good dad. I don't know how serious Shrek was when he said his father tried to eat him, but if he was, its understandable to see why he was worried he would be a terrible dad.
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Siren wrote: Julie Andrews Mary Poppins joke. I was the ONLY one in the theater who got it. Apparently I was surrounded by uncultured swine. :lol:
I got the reference! Fiona's mother was my favorite character in the previous movie, and she was my favorite character in this movie, as well. I think Snow had a fantastic design, however. The female characters didn't have enough screen time.

Is it just me, or do Charming and Arthur look like they're related? One of my friends had a theory that they were.

Merlin's music was quite funny. It was so LOUD!

I still love the dronkeys. The dronkeys > The baby ogres.

I came into the theatre a bit late. The first parts I saw involved Shrek, Donkey, and Puss leaving on the ship. Obviously, I missed the bit where King Harold died. Would anyone care to fill me in, please?
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I saw Shrek last night and, honestly, I loved it!

Maybe it was because I'm pretty much fresh out of high school (well, graduated about a year ago :lol: :roll: :P ) but that whole part when they went to high school was absolutely hilarious. I think it also might've been because it was late-ish at night (the 9:15 showing) and we all know that EVERYTHING is funnier when you're tired lol.

Also I was ticked off because I was the ONLY one in the theater that got the reference to the original Snow White... and I loved how they made it sound like an old recording... kind of like they did for the Timeless River level of Kingdom Hearts II.
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The part with Fiona's father on his deathbed was done in fairly poor taste.

The very beginning was a little funny. Shrek and Fiona are cuddling and one of the servents (I think) opens the door and Shrek says, "Somebody better be dying." :lol:
They go see her father and he talks to them between coughs and he keeps "dying", but coming back to life....its gets annoying real fast. To the point you just wish he'd die already. During that time, the king explains to Shrek he is to be king now, Shrek protests and the king tells him of a nephew that is 2nd in line and to find him, and then he finally dies. The funeral is held at the castle pond where frogs are singing. His body is in a shoebox and set adrift in the pond.

I think the reason they made his death scene the way they did was to be anti-Disney once again. They already screwed with so many Disney traditions and trademarks, messing with the death of a parent is probably the most anti-Disney thing they've done yet.
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Siren wrote:The part with Fiona's father on his deathbed was done in fairly poor taste.

The very beginning was a little funny. Shrek and Fiona are cuddling and one of the servents (I think) opens the door and Shrek says, "Somebody better be dying." :lol:
They go see her father and he talks to them between coughs and he keeps "dying", but coming back to life....its gets annoying real fast. To the point you just wish he'd die already. During that time, the king explains to Shrek he is to be king now, Shrek protests and the king tells him of a nephew that is 2nd in line and to find him, and then he finally dies. The funeral is held at the castle pond where frogs are singing. His body is in a shoebox and set adrift in the pond.

I think the reason they made his death scene the way they did was to be anti-Disney once again. They already screwed with so many Disney traditions and trademarks, messing with the death of a parent is probably the most anti-Disney thing they've done yet.
It was a little long, but I thought that scene was pretty funny. The whole funeral thing with the shoebox, and the frogs singing Live and Let Die was pretty funny as well.
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i was really looking for puss to say "the frog king...has croaked", but no such luck.
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Siren wrote:The part with Fiona's father on his deathbed was done in fairly poor taste.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this...
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numba1lostboy wrote:
Siren wrote:The part with Fiona's father on his deathbed was done in fairly poor taste.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this...
Yeah, I know. I know its a comedy. I know Shrek movies don't take anything seriously, but there were very few laughs in the theater I was at, at that particular scene. I think more people felt uncomfortable than amused.

Perhaps I take death, especially of a parent, too seriously. I think Dreamworks could have had a serious death scene and still continued on with the laughs later. Bambi's mother was shot and yet when Bambi is grown up and trying to get away from Faline, we still laughed. Even though 15 minutes before that, there was a heartbreaking scene.
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Siren wrote:They go see her father and he talks to them between coughs and he keeps "dying", but coming back to life....its gets annoying real fast. To the point you just wish he'd die already. During that time, the king explains to Shrek he is to be king now, Shrek protests and the king tells him of a nephew that is 2nd in line and to find him, and then he finally dies. The funeral is held at the castle pond where frogs are singing. His body is in a shoebox and set adrift in the pond.
I haven't seen it yet, we don't get it in the UK for a while. :roll:

That scene sounds like Yoda's death scene in Return of the Jedi - I wonder if it's intentional.

Luke goes to see Yoda, and he keeps giving Luke more and more information, and you think he's never going to die.

Your father he is.... blah, blah, blah.

You must face Vader and the Emperor again.... cough, cough, cough.

Only a fully trained Jedi can conquer the Emperor.... rasp, rasp, rasp.

There is another Sky-walk-ehhhhhhh-acccckkkkkkk.

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Your probably right. Been a long time since I've see that movie, forgot about it. Makes sense now why they did it like that. It probably was a Star Wars reference. Sounds just like the Yoda death scene.
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Ah well, some of us have Star Wars hardwired into our brain, no matter how long it is since we've seen a film.

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Just saw Shrek the Thrid and it doesn't compare to the first two films.
Probably get Shrek the Thrid when it comes out on DVD. I have a feeling that Spider-Man 3 and Shrek the Thrid will be on special on Black Friday.
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Shrek the Third & Disney parodies

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I saw Shrek the Third on Friday, and without a doubt it is the "Return of the Jedi" of the trilogy. It is visually stunning, but relies too much on material from the first two movies.

But the biggest problem with Shrek III is its tireless Disney-jabbing. Whereas the first two Shreks had stories of their own that only utilized Disney parodies as quick secondary gags, in the third installment puts the Disney-bashing front-and-center, and how much one enjoys the movie as a whole depends on how much one dislikes the classic Disney style and characters.

(The fatherhood subplot almost plays like an afterthought, and the voice-switching of Donkey and Puss was a lazy gag. Wow, Eddie and Antonio switched microphones! That's hilarious....)

The opening parts of Shrek are very enjoyable, but as soon as Shrek & friends gets to Worcestershire High School, the movie starts to drag under the weight of its Sword-in-the-Stone baggage. (Given that the reputation of the studio rides on the success of the Shrek series as its anchor, why build a movie around such a drab character as Artie?)

It is as if some executive (hoping to get on Katzenberg's good side?) said,

"(a) What's a Disney movie we haven't parodied yet? Let's do Sword in the Stone, except that Arthur is a neurotic teen and Merlin is a bumbling idiot. (b) Let's also make the princesses into brutal, evil-looking warriors (Snow White in particular was not funny as much as creepy.). (c) Let's get a bunch of SNL and Monty Python veterans so we can be sure that the satire is really ugly. And to top it all off, (d) let's make Rapunzel the villain, so the movie-going public will have negative imagery in their minds when Disney releases Rapunzel in theaters..."

It's a decent movie, and I will undoubtedly buy the DVD based on the need for a complete trilogy. However, it would have been much better if they had centered the movie around a plot that did justice to the first two.

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Wow!! Talk about two people seeing two different movies..........I loved "Shrek the Third" and never noticed the Disney-bashing that you did. Maybe it is because I love the Shrek franchise and don't go into the movie to try and pick it apart. Contrary to your thoughts, when they get to Worcestershire High School, which in my opinion and my review, is like a cross between Hogwarts and ZIP code 90210 (I didn't notice you say anything about the Harry Potter inferences and "bashing"), I thought the movie took off.

As far as plotline goes, the basic story was Shrek's search for someone else to take his place as next in line for the throne in the Land of Far, Far Away.

I don't think there was any Disney-bashing that was harmful, and I don't think it was any different than in any other film (how about "Happily N'Ever After"?). I think that when you go to see a movie like Shrek you have to remember that it is from a totally different studio, and a totally different style of animation, and the senses of humor are farther out there than the family-safe environment of Disney.

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dvdjunkie wrote:I think that when you go to see a movie like Shrek you have to remember that it is from a totally different studio, and a totally different style of animation, and the senses of humor are farther out there than the family-safe environment of Disney.
Except that DreamWorks is notorious for its open hostility to Disney.
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It was a given that Shrek the Third's first weekend would be huge, though. What I'm interested in is the drop in subsequent weeks... methinks it will probably fall quite hard.

I don't think the king's death scene was similar to Yoda's at all. What the filmmakers did instead was the age old "he's-dead-no-he's-not!" gag. Harold "died" about three times before he was truly gone, while Yoda just rasped and gagged for a helluva long time. :P

Speaking of which, I noticed a distinct difference in the "humor" of Shrek the Third. It's rather morbid in a few places. Harold's death scene is one of the most notable. His expressions and death throes passed over the humorous into the repulsive pretty quickly. The fly buzzing around and landing on his half-open eye toed the line, as well.
One other scene I can think of is Merlin offering Shrek and Arthur some "organic gravel" cereal. He chews on solid pebbles for a few seconds then smiles at them with bloody teeth. I'm usually a big fan of black humor like that, but those scenes were a pinch more disturbing than funny. :headshake:

I remember just 6 years ago when the original Shrek had very little dark humor, but lots of attitude and a handful of "casual swearing" - some hells and damns here and there. What we have now is a purportedly kinder, gentler ogre - offset with "edgy" humor that's just plain gross (not unlike that of Family Guy - maybe this iteration of Shrek took some pointers from that series... >_<). While I'm no huge fan of the films, I do admit that I miss the old Shrek compared to this crap. :(
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i agree with you 100%, Paka. That gravel thing really freaked me out.

EDIT: Whoa, Paka, did you JUST change your avatar? I swear it was different before I posted :? :shock:
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My brother and I went to the movies to see "Shrek the 3rd" and it was funny, except with those Disney parodies. They did the same thing with a Snow White parody from "9 to 5". Great film with just a few Disney twists.
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