BATB and SW to be released in '08/'09?

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I am all about the extras. My biggest concern with upgrading is that the extras wont be as good as the previous releases. I've heard about the Tarzan 2 disc fiasco. I just really hope that the plantinum editions improve in quality with both film and special features. I still have some time before I decide to whether or not sell off my old Beauty and the Beast DVD so I can upgrade but it's a very tough decision to make
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I once was talking to the owner of an electronics store, and he told me that Disney intend on releasing Blu-Ray discs of their movies compatible with present day DVD Players. I asked him what he meant, and he replied that there would be two versions of the movie on the disc: one in DVD format, and the other in Blu-Ray format. If you insert the disc in a present day DVD, the player would simply ignore the Blu-Ray content and start playback of the section of the disc dedicated to it.

I saw this as rather unlikely to happen. But if Disney Blu-Ray discs really were this way, it would be great because you'd buy the disc even if you own an old-fashioned player. However, if you upgrade to Blu-Ray in the future, you wouldn't need to repurchase the movie on the alternate format.

Now we definitely know this is not the case. Um...was the shopkeeper even telling the truth anyway? Or was this some demented theory he made up? :?
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I thought that regular players are absolutely unable to read the "ray" of the blu-ray discs - I think that this is impossible, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think he just made it up or was confused, though it's not a completely impossible theory. However so far, there have been no releases on Blu-Ray/DVD hybrid discs and I'm not sure there will ever be. The technology is probably there but I've never seen any mention of anyone actually wanting to release anything on such a format (might be too expensive to create the discs to be worth the trouble.)

There have been several movies released on HD-DVD/DVD hybrid discs though, so maybe he just mixed them up.
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Julian Carter wrote:I once was talking to the owner of an electronics store, and he told me that Disney intend on releasing Blu-Ray discs of their movies compatible with present day DVD Players. I asked him what he meant, and he replied that there would be two versions of the movie on the disc: one in DVD format, and the other in Blu-Ray format. If you insert the disc in a present day DVD, the player would simply ignore the Blu-Ray content and start playback of the section of the disc dedicated to it.

I saw this as rather unlikely to happen. But if Disney Blu-Ray discs really were this way, it would be great because you'd buy the disc even if you own an old-fashioned player. However, if you upgrade to Blu-Ray in the future, you wouldn't need to repurchase the movie on the alternate format.

Now we definitely know this is not the case. Um...was the shopkeeper even telling the truth anyway? Or was this some demented theory he made up? :?
Not yet, but there is talks of a HD-DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD hybrid disc. It would be interesting if it happened, however I would rather have a dual format player for HD-DVD/Blu-Ray.
(NewScientisttech.com--)The electronics industry is in a fine mess, with two blue-laser disc standards (Blu-ray and HD-DVD) competing to succeed ordinary red-laser DVDs.

On 26 September, Warner will be the first studio to release a movie, Lake House, on all three disc standards simultaneously.

Meanwhile, however, two top Warner engineers, Alan Bell and Lewis Ostrover, have been working on a cheaper and more elegant solution.

Blu-ray uses a 405-nanometre wavelength laser to read data from tracks 0.1-millimetres-deep on the top surface of a disc. HD-DVD, on the other hand, uses the same wavelength to read recordings at a depth of 0.6 mm.

Warner’s plan is to create a disc with a Blu-ray top layer that works like a two-way mirror. This should reflect just enough blue light for a Blu-ray player to read it okay. But it should also let enough light through for HD-DVD players to ignore the Blu-ray recording and find a second HD-DVD layer beneath.

An ordinary DVD recording could be put on the other side, so that conventional DVD players can read the disc as well.

Although the triple-standard disc will cost more to make, it should still be cheaper than pressing three, and shops should be pleased not to have their shelves overloaded with so many different discs.
I would like to see a re-release of Beauty and the Beast. I missed that DVD, and I've had trouble tracking down a used one in good shape.
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Agreed, I will be really disappointed to Disney goes to a Blu-Ray only releasing plan, but I doubt that will happen as Disney still is putting out some VHS. It also does seem like a little too soon for a re-release.
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Post by sincor »

like most of you i missed the first release of snow white and the beauty and the beast PE, and also i don't care the order they will be re-release as long as they re release them.
i know that all of you say that they shouldn't add anything to the re release version but i think that they should have the spanish audio track that they missed in the 1st PE of both of these dvds that will make it complete and real PE
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If anyone wants Pinocchio & Snow White just for the movie,
get them from Japan.

They were re-released a month ago for a limited time.

The movie itself is in English and its lovely and fresh.

Fantasia's not the 60th Anniversary Edition though its the heavily edited edition that we in Australia got about 5 years ago. And was video quality.

Still, Snow White & Pinocchio are lovely.
And from Japan its super cute.
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I personally think
they need to finish out the platinum collection on DVD
and then start a new collection on Blu-Ray...
Maybe the Diamond collection?
It would be ideal if they would just stop messing around
with order or popularity
and release the Animated Classics in order of theatrical release date
On Blu-Ray, maybe 3 or 4 a year (it would be ok to release that many in a year since now a majority of the Animated classics have been restored, they wouldn't have to rush in order to restore them)
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That's a pretty good idea, but 3-4, a year would be too much. Our poor wallets!!! :lol:
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3 or 4 a year is a lot (I personally wouldn't mind, but could they keep up with the quality of the releases?). A new collection really depends on if Blu-Ray takes off. So far it hasn't, but then again its new and currently in a format "war" right now.

I still think Disney will hold onto the Animated Classics for awhile. When more players are in peoples homes I think we will see more big titles from all companies. Then again we may see them on HD-DVD if Blu-Ray doesn't win the war.
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RebelPrince1986 wrote:
I personally think
they need to finish out the platinum collection on DVD
and then start a new collection on Blu-Ray...
Maybe the Diamond collection?
It would be ideal if they would just stop messing around
with order or popularity
and release the Animated Classics in order of theatrical release date
On Blu-Ray, maybe 3 or 4 a year (it would be ok to release that many in a year since now a majority of the Animated classics have been restored, they wouldn't have to rush in order to restore them)
Here is the reason you will never see the Disney films released to home video in chronological order: If they put out 3-4 a year and started with "Snow White," the first year would be "Snow White," "Pinocchio," "Fantasia," and "Dumbo." All 4 HUGE classics. The next year would be "Bambi," "Saludos Amigos," "The Three Caballeros," and "Make Mine Music." 1 classic and top seller, 1 minorly popular, and 2 that most people have never heard of. The next year: "Melody Time," "Fun and Fancy Free," "The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad," and "Cinderella." Again, 1 classic, and the rest minorly popular-not well known. See where I'm going with this? You would have years where Disney's home video sales would be phenominal, and years where they would be dismal. They are very strategic with the way everything gets released. In recent years, the pattern has been 2 Platinums, 1-2 2-disc releases of other top selling films, and 1-2 single disc releases of fairly popular films. We've only seen a release of the package features once on DVD, and for 2 of them, it was their first home video release ever. I think it could be a long time before those films are ever released on another format. I do like your idea, alot though. In a perfect world, it would work.

Also, if you look in the international release forum, there was a set in Japan that was just released called the "Walt Disney's Classics" collection. It comes in a tin and has the big name classics from "Snow White" to "Alice in Wonderland" with 1 package feature, "Melody Time." Each disc has the original poster art! It's a very nice set and I wish Disney would do something like it in the US, but it's very unlikely.
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Why would it matter anyway? You're always able to put them on the shelf in the correct (or other preferred) order.
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Lars Vermundsberget wrote:Why would it matter anyway? You're always able to put them on the shelf in the correct (or other preferred) order.
Well, like Goofystitch said, in the first year, they would release Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia and Dumbo. There would be many parents who think, 'should we buy them all? Nah, one's enough' and they choose one of the four. But if they aren't released in order of popularity, and some less populair DVDs would come out in between, they will buy them all. Because there's a break between the releases. So Disney would actually earn more with it.
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Post by Lars Vermundsberget »

Right - I should have written: Why would it matter to us?

I recognize that Disney needs to "even out" these releases over a number of years - and it doesn't matter to me, in the long run. I'll have what I want - eventually. 8)
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so, it just hit me today that 2007 marks Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs's 70th anniversary. Could this be the reasoning behind releasing it in 2008, just a year after it's 70th. they did this to LatT, why not Snow White?

Also, to me it's make much more sense to release this film in 2012 for the films 75th. think of the marketing they could do with that! to me it seems more natural to celebrate a 75th anniversary than a 70th anniversary.
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singerguy04 wrote:so, it just hit me today that 2007 marks Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs's 70th anniversary. Could this be the reasoning behind releasing it in 2008, just a year after it's 70th. they did this to LatT, why not Snow White?

Also, to me it's make much more sense to release this film in 2012 for the films 75th. think of the marketing they could do with that! to me it seems more natural to celebrate a 75th anniversary than a 70th anniversary.
I think 2012 would be better. 2008 is way too soon for another release, and then the other PEs could be pushed forward. Also for the 75th anniversary, it could be released in the theatres again, perhaps.
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I know this might sounded a bit stupid,
but they could re-release it on Platinum again.
And pretend that Disney's ghost opened the vault and released it again. :wink:
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