Which Attraction needs to go bye bye?

[JEANYLASER]

i am thinking the incredibles instead of stitch's greatest escape. The incredibles trying to save Mickey Mouse from the cluches of the evil Syndrome hold Mickey Mouse Prisoner in the cell block in the volcano. In the preshow 1 Mickey Mouse introduce The Incredibles but then The Evil Syndrome captured Mickey to his volcano and lock Mickey to his cell block. Then preshow 2 The Incredibles are talking to Edna and said Mickey Mouse is captured by the evil Syndrome. Go to the theatre and save Mickey Mouse. That's is my idea. Do you like this idea.

[Edge]

Anyways from a Disneyland perspective here are my thoughts:

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - I've heard all the stories about the ground underneath it etc, but at this point it's just getting pitiful. A lake that isn't maintained and a bunch of dead space.

You haven't heard? They're renovating this with a Finding Nemo theme.

Been hearing that for years, but haven't seen much actually started.

Before that it was going to be an Atlantis ride.

I just hope they do something soon, Tomorrowland needs a major facelift.

[Edge]

I'm surprised people keep saying "let's take this attraction and turn it back into the old version". It's great for the nostalgic value(I personally would rather see Alien Encounter over Stitch's Great Escape), but is not part of the progressive views Walt had for the park(s). In Walt's time, attractions were always changing, always being updated. Sentimentality kicks in when people don't like what's new, so they ask for what was taken for granted before. All my choices are from Magic Kingdom at WDW, since it's my park...

The Enchanted Tiki Room - Haven't seen the Disneyland one in years, though I've got the WDW pre-show memorized (thanks to working the Adventureland Nut Wagon). It's a harmless little attraction and it's perfect for rainy days. But as an attraction that keeps you interested, it's only mildly amusing (unless you and your friends start a wave or start snapping and swaying to "In the Still of the Night"). If they have to update it, I'd simply make Iago less obnoxious (if it's humanly possible), but I wouldn't turn it back into the old one.

Tomorrowland Indy Speedway - it's a low-capacity ride that takes up a large amount of space and would be put to better use if they tore it all down erected a roller coaster or some other futuristic thrill ride.

Stitch's Great Escape - while I'd love for them to bring back Alien Encounter, I know that will never happen. So if they ever decide to dump Stitch, I can't imagine what its replacement would be, though I hope it doesn't use chili dogs.

Share A Dream Come True Parade - they've recently started changing it, removing a float for a day to get ride of the glass dome (so it's pretty much the same thing, minus a large dome). Today was the day for the Aladdin Float, so not only did they just have him walk in the parade, they had to remove his voice tracks too. Yesterday they were changing the Villains Float, and it was sure was something seeing all these villains walking down the street. But anyway, they need to really change this parade. According to Eyes & Ears, there's going to be a new one as part of the next promotion, "Year of a Million Dreams".

Magic Carpets of Aladdin - as glad as I am that Aladdin's got an attraction, it's just Dumbo in Adventureland, except the wait's not as long.

Escapay

I agree though I don't think people mind if something good replaces an old attraction. For example Indiana Jones is a new ride, but you can tell they put effort into it. There's that fine line between updating a ride and making it look too much like a cheap promotion.

For example people probably wouldn't have minded Tiki Room being updated with newer songs, but forcing characters from a different universe just seemed a little too much.

They updated Pirates to feature the new movies, but they didn't reinvent the wheel.

So I think most people are okay if there is a fine line. Unfortunatly Disney got into a pattern for a while where every ride was comprised of non-moving statues and black ligjts with neon colors.

The Disney Theme Parks lost a little bit of their luster in the late 90's when Disney stopped becoming about pushing boundaries and started becoming about safe bets.

Hopefully now that they start remembering what made the parks work in the first place.

[Kram Nebuer]

You haven't heard? They're renovating this with a Finding Nemo theme.

Been hearing that for years, but haven't seen much actually started.

Before that it was going to be an Atlantis ride.

I just hope they do something soon, Tomorrowland needs a major facelift.

Really? Prepare to be enlightened !

Concept art:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... 467#230467

Construction photos:
http://www.laughingplace.com/Lotion-View-237.asp

Then again, you did call it "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" which was the submarine ride in Magic Kingdom of Walt Disney World. First it was emotied and blocked by Disney Villain character greetings. Unfortunately, that was drained, filled in with land, character greeting awnings removed, turned into Stroller Parking and guest rest area with Toontown fences and benches. Then the terrible Pooh Virus spread to that area and it became "Pooh's Playful Spot," a playground area for kiddies with Pooh themes and Pooh character homes. I never thought I'd say Pooh so many times in one sentence .

Pooh's Playful Spot:
http://www.mouseplanet.com/articles.php?art=eo050907bb
That sign in the first picture is really sad because it's taking away the original intent Walt Disney had for his theme parks: a place where children AND their parents could have fun TOGETHER.

Tis a sad sad state the Disney Parks are becoming. I'm glad that Tomorrowland is finally getting more attention with Buzz AstroBlasters and the new Nemo Subs, but it's sad that they're banking on the already successful Pixar characters and not trying out their own characters on new water (no pun intended). An Atlantis themed Submarine Voyage would've been WAAYYYYYYYYY cooler than Nemo and would help promote this underrated feature.

[Edge]

Awesome! And about darn time!

What's sad is that I hand't even noticed.

Tomorrowland fell so far from my mind, that I have no reason to wander around and see what's new.

That's a prime example of what you don't want to do from a marketing standpoint.

[Mr. Toad]

Disneyland- Actually I am not sure anything really stinks.

You obviously never heard of "Innoventions".



I would've mentioned it earlier, but for some reason, I don't think Disney will get rid of it anytime soon.

Funny, that never even popped into my mind when I thought about Disneyland. It actually was not bad when it first started and their were more sponsors and intenet access available. At the time, at least you could say it was better than Rocket Rods. But your probably right, maybe its time to go to Yesterland and send Paul and Cynthias Fantasyland update debacle into history

[Ting Ting]

I haven't been to Disneyland in years so it might already be gone but I think they need to get rid of the submarine ride. It's awful! I remember looking out the submarine window and seeing doll-sized mermaids and sharks dangling from strings. It's a terrible ride.

[pinkrenata]

I haven't been to Disneyland in years so it might already be gone but I think they need to get rid of the submarine ride. It's awful! I remember looking out the submarine window and seeing doll-sized mermaids and sharks dangling from strings. It's a terrible ride.

You may want to read the rest of this thread.

[ccsubruce]

The Drew Carey attraction was 10 minutes of pure boredom. Please, kill this thing now before someone dies of the boredom it will inflict. Ugh.

I think the MGM Muppets attraction needs to be updated, too. The 3D imagery is so dated compared to the 3D attraction at WDW.

[Kram Nebuer]

The Drew Carey attraction was 10 minutes of pure boredom. Please, kill this thing now before someone dies of the boredom it will inflict. Ugh.

I think the MGM Muppets attraction needs to be updated, too. The 3D imagery is so dated compared to the 3D attraction at WDW.

The Drew Carey attraction wasn't that boring. It was a little fun, but it definitely was not great enough to merit a second viewing. When we went on, it was hilarious and a bit embarassing for us b/c my dad called my mom's cellphone in the middle of the show. A part of the show is completely, COMPLETELY pitch dark since you're only using your ears to experience that part and then my mom's lite up cell phone was like a shining beacon. Anyhow, the concept is definitely exciting, but I'm glad it's closing. Hopefully they'll retain the idea of the attraction and retheme it with something more today and worthwhile.

As much as I love the muppets, the show is getting rather dated. The "amazing" CGI flying character isn't so amazing anymore. The show is still delightful, but weak when compared to the other 3D attractions. I hope they keep the muppets, but make a new, updated film, or a slew of different films to keep it seeming like you're really on the Muppet Show w/ something different. Since a lot of people go on it, I doubt Disney feels they need to update it.

[brownie]

When I went to see Sounds Dangerous, someone's phone went off twice during the dark moments and it kept distracting everyone in my row. I actually enjoyed that attraction, but my mom didn't. Oh well.

I think all of Epcot needs to be changed to some extent.

1. Innoventions is too outdated and does not teach me much.
2. Epcot needs one more big thrill ride. Mission Space has scared away a lot of people (or has made them sick), Soarin' isn't a bad ride but not very thrilling, and Test Track is very dull after the first time.
3. Journey into Imagination was unimpressive and too juvenile. It could have been better. No, I have not seen the original.
4. The Land is pretty boring to look at. It needs more detail.
5. Honey, I Shrunk the Audience is a pretty fun 3D show, but it is pretty outdated and a lot of kids 10 and under probably haven't seen any of the movies.

That said, The Living Seas is educational and fun, and World Showcase is decent, although it's rather boring for kids (including me), but that's still not enough to get me to go back to the park for a few years, at least not until they bring something really fun to do there. I plan on going to WDW for the 5th time next year, and I think I'm going to just skip Epcot.

As for the other parks (in WDW, since I haven't been to Disneyland), I think Magic Kingdom needs more rides that are fun for kids. Mad Tea Party is a pretty fun ride, but others are repetitive and extremely boring. Something like Dumbo's Flight would be fun for a little kid to go on, but why have two versions of the same ride? Peter Pan's Flight, Snow White's Scary Adventures, It's a Small World are also very similar, but I found them all unimpressive. I understand that some of them are classic, but aren't rides supposed to be fun? I guess it's a matter of opinion, but it didn't look like anyone else sitting by me was having a very good time, and that includes people of all ages.

I haven't seen the original Tiki Room, but the new one is sort of annoying. I remember seeing Alien Encounter a few years ago, and I enjoyed it a lot, but I didn't like Stitch's Great Escape. They need to slow down on the Stitch franchise! The update for Pirates of the Caribbean is good, even though I haven't seen the original. The animatronics are top-notch and it was amazing how they projected Davey Jones onto mist/dry ice/whatever that was.

MGM Studios (or just Studios? One of my maps that I received when I stayed at WDW for the past week didn't say "MGM" on it) is probably the most entertaining park. I arrived there around 10 am and left around 12:30 (extra magic hours). About 1 1/2 hours was spent either eating or taking a break. I'd pretty much see all of the attractions there, with the exception of Playhouse Disney Live, for the obvious reason that I'm too old. I think the only thing there that I would remove would be TCoN "tour", which was pathetic, although the White Witch was pretty cool. Star Tours and Muppetvision 3D could use an update.

I like Animal Kingdom a lot, only it does need improvements. Dinoland definitely needs to be fixed. Dinosaur, Primeval Whirl, and maybe two or three of the carnival games should be the only thing that should stay there. Everything else stinks!

[Kram Nebuer]

I think all of Epcot needs to be changed to some extent.

This is true. Though it's sad to see a lot of drastic changes to Epcot (like Nemo in Living Seas), they are definitely for the better. When I was a kid, Epcot was the boring park and all we wanted to do was go back to Magic Kingdom or something. Spaceship Earth is really scary for little kids and Living With the Land can be quite boring if you don't understand what you're looking at. After studying a lot about plants and conservation at my uber-green college, I found the attraction to be completely fascinating! Anyhow, the Nemo additions (Little Mermaid would've been better) have made The Living Seas a lot more fun for the kiddies and a better approach to help them learn and get them interested in the world around us.

Test Track is getting old. I believe it's been there since 1996? A new attraction or a new spin on the existing attraction would make it better.

I was thinking the other day...is it just me or was Rocket Rods at Disneyland's Tomorrowland a Test Track wannabe?

Also with Journey Into Imagination, I think it's fine for now. It's a little sad that there's never a line whenever one goes on, but one must remember its a continuous ride with a high guest capacity in heach vehicle. The only improvements I would make to attract more kiddies is by having more Disney characters join Figment in the ride. They should trash the whole "Imagination Institute" laboratories theme (except for the inclusion of Prof. Szalinski and Prof. Brainard in the attraction b/c that's AWESOME!!!) and have more Disney characters "teach" about imagination. Also, sadly the Honey, I Shrunk the Audience show is in need of a replacement. 3-D shows aren't as exciting as they used to be. I think they should have a live-stage show or another attraction replace it.

Innoventions is a nice place to enjoy air conditioning. But it too is in need of improvement. I guess that's the problem with Future World. It's always in need of improvement every 5 to 10 years.

World Showcase is in less need of improvement, but I'd like to see the Native Americans represented at the American Adventure. Perhaps they can bring back "The Spirit of Pocahontas" show or something.

[memnv]

I think Autotopia needs to be redone with a desert setting and you drive the cars from cars, I think this would be great at Disneyland with the Nemo ride opening next year right next to it