What was the worst sequel or remake to a Disney film?

[disneyfreek]

Almost every single disney sequel that I have seen sucked. Except for Toy Story 2, but Pixar made that, so you can't say it is REALLY disney. Anyway, I think Argenbrit said what I think. You can't really pick just one. The live action sequels are pretty good, like 102 Dalmations, but it's the animated sequels that make your stomach churn. Cinerella 2, Bambi 2, Return of Jafar...they all lack the disney magic and good morals that the originals had. I try my best to avoid the sequels, especially when the original was made about 50 years ago.

[Disney Duster]

Almost every single disney sequel that I have seen sucked. Except for Toy Story 2, but Pixar made that, so you can't say it is REALLY disney. Anyway, I think Argenbrit said what I think. You can't really pick just one. The live action sequels are pretty good, like 102 Dalmations, but it's the animated sequels that make your stomach churn.

You don't even think the Disney-made The Rescuers Down Under was good? It was one of my favorite movies as a kid. And what about Lilo and Stitch 2?

[disneyfreek]

Sorry, The Rescuers Down Under is the other exception. And no, I dont like Lilo and Stitch 2. Even the first one kinda bugged me, but it was ok.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Sorry, The Rescuers Down Under is the other exception. And no, I dont like Lilo and Stitch 2. Even the first one kinda bugged me, but it was ok.

Lilo and Stitch bugged you????? I find that Lilo and Stitch is the best Disney movie in this "dark age", besides The Emperor's New Groove, Brother Bear, & Treasure Planet.

[TheNikki]

Well I'm not crazy about any of the "episodes strung together" format sequels. They're just a cheap way of making cash off their failed attempts at television series.

Although I did like the Tarzan one, but I'm a big fan of the movie and the series because of the artwork so I'm biased in that one.

I really wasn't crazy about Pocahantas 2, I was really excited for it and I thought the animation sucked.

I've never been able to bring myself to watch Hunchback 2 because I adore the original and think nothing could be better.

I know alot of people hate The Little Mermaid 2, but I love it, it's my fave of the sequels, I think the underwater animation is beautiful and rivals the first film in that aspect. Now the on land animation is pretty standard sequel animation, plus I wasn't happy with how Eric and Ariel looked like midgets, seriously something was wrong about their height compared to the first film.

[The Little Merboy]

The Little Mermaid 2, ugh! Could have been SOOOOO much better

[Caballero Girl]

I've never seen 102 Dalmatians. I singled it out as one to avoid after the first live action remake failed to float my boat.

I have no idea why they even felt the need to remake the animated classic in the first place...whatever you can say about Glenn Close's performance, I wasn't crazy about the way they transformed Cruella deVil from a genuinely creepy maniac into a bumbling Home Alone-esque villian who's constantly getting the short end of some brand of physical humiliation. In fact they set-up the story in a manner quite similar to the original film, and then somehow managed to turn it into Home Alone 3 1/2. I was also a tad put out that they excised my favourite character, Sgt. Tibbs, from the story and replaced him with yet another dog (c'mon, there are enough dogs in the story as it is...how about a little character diversity?).

On the whole I'm one of those iron-fisted, totalitarian Disney viewers who doesn't have any patience for their animated sequels, particularly the ones which turn up years and years after the original was released, with no real artistic justification for their existence (the only exception being the Rescuers Down Under, of which I'm a lot more tolerant - at the time, it did feel like a genuine, legitimate attempt to make a sequel with stand-alone appeal and not just cash-in on the original's name, even if it wasn't Disney's best theatrical release from that period).

[slave2moonlight]

This is definitely a topic that mostly relies on personal tastes. It's clear that opinions differ greatly... Off the top of my head, I'd have to say the worst I can think of is the remake of "That Darn Cat." I thought it was horrendous, particularly the end, and I was so in love with Christina Ricci at the time! Love the original film, of course.

Wish I could remember enough about TV stuff like "Splash 2," but I really can't. Haven't seen some of the remakes and sequels either, like Tim Allen's "Shaggy Dog." I was always a fan of that series of films though, and the TV remake as well. They actually made some pretty good TV remakes over the years. Anyone remember Kirk Cameron's "Computer Wore Tennis Shoes?"

And, to give my opinion of films that have been mentioned, I actually remember liking all three of the Mighty Ducks flicks, and I'm not even a sports fan. However, Hockey is one of the few sports I can enjoy watching occasionally. 102 Dalmatians is clearly weak compared to the first, but I thought that much of it was pretty good. Of course, it had its awful moments, but Glenn Close is just so entertaining as Cruella! I also thought the female romantic lead was kinda cute, so that didn't hurt. Wasn't a fan of Gerard in that one though. Well, he was funny at times, but the character itself... I did miss the Badduns, who were fabulously cast in the first film! Haven't bought or seen Atlantis: Milo's Return yet, but I hope I am able to find that one eventually, some how. Though, I know it is mostly disliked (I didn't even like the original). I'm a completist with Disney animation. We really shouldn't be counting the "TV show episodes compiled into 'movies'" type sequels though. Return of Jafar is one of the worst animated, but it has actually grown on me for what it is, which is basically a bridge from the movie to the TV series...

Actually, a really bad one that comes to mind is Hunchback 2, which is probably up there with the That Darn Cat remake.

Continuing with titles that have been mentioned here: Jungle Book 2 was a big disappointment for me as a Jungle Book fan, though aspects of it have grown on me. It wasn't the story that bothered me so much as the way the film looked so different from the original, and seemed so blatantly an attempt at improving the classic characters' kid appeal. It could have been so much more than it was, and could have looked so much more true to the original. I do feel the first film was one that was perfect to have a sequel made for it though. It's a shame they didn't make it better. Love the Lion King sequels. I haven't had much of a chance to watch Stitch the Movie and pay close attention. Need to sit down and do that sometime. But, as I remember, it was good for what it was. Basically, a TV pilot, like the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command DVD release and Return of Jafar. Still need to get the other two sequels for Lilo and Stitch. And, while I loved the original, I can understand people not liking it. I'm the only one in my family that likes it. I think a big part of the reason is because it's a Disney animated feature that involves a lot of footage of two sisters yelling at each other. Not everyone likes to go to the movies to see bickering siblings. At least, not in animated films.

Ha, I am one of the few people (apparently) who doesn't HATE Cinderella 2. I think it's because I went into it not expecting a sequel, but an anthology of shorts. Disney's false advertising with DVD releases certainly ticks a lot of people off, but if you know what to expect, it's not as bad. And, while it was pretty weakly tied together, I enjoyed the little stories. I still say that DVD should have been called, "Mouse Mouse Tales." Only thing I didn't care for were Cinderella's moments of being less than "happy ever after." Never saw George of the Jungle 2, but I'm always surprised when folks talk about how bad Inspector Gadget 2 was. I found it to be far better than the original. Much closer to the animated series I used to watch as a kid. I really enjoyed it. Still need to get both of the Gadget films though. Of course, Rescuers Down Under is one of Disney's best sequels ever. Love that flick even better than its original I think. Bambi 2 I absolutely loved, and it is probably right after Rescuers Down Under for me. Those two I consider true Disney Masterpieces! Only thing about Bambi 2 I didn't care for were the modern songs, but the rest of the film was so excellent that I didn't let them bug me that much.

Tarzan 2 I didn't pay enough attention to the first time I watched it (not because of the film, but because I was REALLY tired). I need to put it on again. I rather liked 101 Dalmations 2. Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas may not touch the original, but I find it to be a wonderful new Christmas tradition. Little Mermaid 2 I haven't put on in forever. I hate to see Ariel as a mom. I'm in love with Ariel! But, I remember that it was okay at least. I feel I need to rewatch Pocahontas 2 before commenting on that one, but I remember liking it somewhat too. I have Brother Bear 2, but haven't watched it yet. Still need Mulan 2.

Oh, here's another GREAT one: Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas. Despite it being all CGI...

Return to Neverland is quite good for the most part. I love the original, and I LOVE Tinkerbell possibly as much as Ariel. I really love the way they handled her in this one too. Over all, it was a good movie. Liked the story and everything. However, I had SOME issues with it. For one, I didn't like the pop music. I just wish they'd stop doing that with sequels to classics. Second, I didn't think Peter's voice was a good match. He sounded like he was going through puberty too. I did have some issues with Peter's voice for sure. He overacted a bit I think, and then there was Jane, who sounded like an adult playing a kid (usually a bad idea). Also didn't feel the need for replacing the croc. Should have just kept the croc. Still, while I didn't like those things very much (though I don't HATE the squid or octopus, I forget which it was), I rather like the film on the whole.

I won't go into detail about Lady and the Tramp 2, as I've done that recently in another thread. Basically, I thought it was a failed attempt at what could have been a great film for a beloved comic strip character. Oh well. I at least got a Scamp plush toy out of it. I mean, I doubt the Disney Store would have made any of those if it weren't for the sequel. Anyways, I know I've left some sequels out, but I mainly just wanted to comment on those that were mentioned before.

Over all, my opinion of the worst would be (not including tv episodes turned into movies)... probably Hunchback 2 and the That Darn Cat remake.

As for some of the best, I'd say: Toy Story 2, Herbie: Fully Loaded, Rescuers Down Under, Bambi 2, Twice Upon a Christmas, and Lion King 2... off the top of my head.

[TheNikki]

I've not managed to see Bambi 2, but the original one always bored me.

Yay another fan of Beauty and The Beast : The Enchanted Christmas. I adore it. It's so cute and I thought the animation was well done.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

I've not managed to see Bambi 2, but the original one always bored me.

Well, the original one is rightfully considered a classic, while #2 was made by entirely different people more than 60 years later - so I guess it'll be really hard to make any suggestion based on this...

[purin]

I really wish that, especially for the ones that were pilot episodes to shows that never got off the ground, many of these sequels would just leave off the "II." It automatically adds an air of pretentiousness and puts a bad taste in the viewer's mouth, while also raising the expectations. I mean, while the Aladdin movies are considered a kind of "Trilogy," note the absence of numbers.

I think I could deal with direct to video sequels better if they weren't made as "sequels" and more like "side stories." That way, they could feel more like fun romps without being as daring as you have to be to create a worthy sequel. Also, you could make as many as you like without necessarily rolling eyes (it's not a Disney example, but think of the feeling you get when ANOTHER Land Before Time movie comes out. What number are we up to again?).

I mean, I was skeptical about Toy Story's sequel, but they put so much into it that it really did stand out as a good movie on its own.

I mean, The Lion King II would have been great if they had left in some of the deleted scenes and gone about other story elements differently, but they didn't want to tread in that territory, and so it was lacking. That's what makes sequels not so great. They're just... "eh."

I mean, just how many times can you use that "parent tells kid who's like a mini version of the protagonist what not to do and then the new main character kind of mimics the events of the first movie?"

[bennyb98]

Two Words... Cinderella II

[Dottie]

The worst sequels?

Cinderella 2
TLM 2
Pocahontas 2
Mulan 2

[azul017]

Worst sequels:

- Almost all of the DTV sequels and prequels
- The Santa Clause 2 (too cutesy and ruined the charm of the first one, which is a Christmas classic in my opinion)
- The Santa Clause 3 (made by the same people who did SC2, and I'm not bothering with it at all)

And on an offhand note, I think Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest is a disappointing movie compared to the likeable, funny 2003 original. The jokes are rehashed, too much action, too much exposition... it kinda goes over the top here. I won't say it's one of Disney's worst sequels (it has many positives though), but I would say it's disappointing.

[DisneyGirl22]

I saw Tarzan for the first time last weekend and fell in love and I think it may be my favorite favorite now so I was excited for Tarzan & Jane which arrived today....I was sad within two minutes. The animation sucked but I told myself no biggie, this was probably meant to be a tv show or something....then I thought the voices sucked, they made Tarzan out to still be some terribly uncivilized person, although at the end of the original he wasnt too uncivilized. The story line wasnt interesting and me my mom and my daughter all fell asleep watching it!
Im still going to buy Tarzan 2 and hold onto a small thread of hope for that one....I just think this could have been great if they either had better animation or at least the original voice for Jane, which is what I think made the original so great.

[Disneyfreak1990]

Herbie Fully Loaded, it just doesn't have the charm of the last four films, the movie was focused on the family, and they gave Herb a new girlfriend .
Bambi 2, if they gave it a real plot i would like it.

and to whoever said Inspector Gadget 2 was bad, there was a reason, fans of the cartoon hated the original for not being like the cartoon so when they did the sequel they made it more like the cartoon and fans hated it for being just like the cartoon. you just can't please those fans can ya. right now they're planning another one.

[Anne]

I didn't like Cinderella 2. It was boring and pointless.

[Lolly]

cinderella 2 has to be one of the worst but lion king 2 one of the best sequels

[Prudence]

What was that horrible thing I fell asleep while watching.....ah, yes. Atlantis II: Milo's Return. "How was the movie?" "We don't know. We fell asleep." I haven't seen either The Hunchback of Notre Dame II or Bambi II in their entireties. From what I did watch, Madelene was a lame character with a lame backstory created only for the purpose of giving Quasi someone to compensate for Esmeralda. The animation really sucked, as well. On the other hand, I'm not at all against sequels having characters that are love interests for those who did not have a partner in the originals. I would be hypocritical to go that far. The thing is, for a character that had so much screen time, Madelene's personality and design were overdone and bland. The opposite route (little screen time but complex character) works much better. As for Bambi II, I simply got bored and left the room.

[Anthony]

It's impossible to pick just one bad Disney sequel since most of them pretty much suck. Here's the worst of the worst for me:

Bambi 2
Mulan 2
102 Damatians
The Jungle Book 2
Return to Neverland
The Lion King 2
The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2
The Parent Trap 2
The Parent Trap 3
The Little Mermaid 2
Lady and the Tramp: Scamp's Adventure