I could never watch the vhs again now that I've seen it all cleaned up on DVD.MickeyMouseboy wrote:oh believe me the DVD is going to sit there accumulating dust cause my VHS is what i'll be watching and i might get a bootleg dvd of the Laserdisc transfer so i can watch anytime i want!rnrlesnar wrote:Never did I say the IMAX was superior. Someone else said the original was superior. To me, they're basically the same and to say one is actually superior to the other is without merit. If the presentation of the movie itself is so disappointing, watch your truly "inferior" VHS.
Lion King DVD is worth it
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I'm not forgiving Disney on the extras, but I have no problem at all with the way the movie is presented.MickeyMouseboy wrote:well that's good for you! I bet you're Disney dream consumer that's why they create trash like Lion King DVD cause you are easily to satisfied. not trying to be mean.
I compared my VHS to the DVD and looked at some of the scenes that have your panties in a wad.
Crocodiles: It lasts 2 seconds, 2.5 tops. I rest my case.
The waterfalls: They're blue opaque glass in the original. Looks pretty bad. The new ones add a lot more life to the scene and just make it look prettier.
Mufasa's Clouds: I could not see a difference, other than they're more defined and clear on the DVD.
Credits: I didn't know this was changed, but I noticed the credits roll in the original, but they flash on the DVD, as they show some names, it disappears and a new group shows up. Now that the credits are different, I hate the new DVD now!
Seriously though, I just really don't take offense to the few changes in the DVD. It's not like replacing guns with walkie talkies ya know
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sorry rnr is ok if you like the Special edition more power to you. I liked the original as it was promised before the release and I dont see it anywhere on the disc and that makes disney liars. is ok if want aladdin and little mermaid special editions as for me i like the original versions not the new easy money transfers.
Personally, I enjoyed the movie on DVD, even the Morning Report, but I am not thrilled with the menu set up of either of the 2 dvd's in the set.
Disc 1 could have included a more user friendly menu to choose between the special edition or the other edition of the movie.
Disc 2 could have included alot of the small segments connected by a PLAY ALL function, instead of just showing a couple minutes at a time.
Maybe Disney will start listening to the collectors of their DVD's and realize that we want the quality we are paying for.
Disc 1 could have included a more user friendly menu to choose between the special edition or the other edition of the movie.
Disc 2 could have included alot of the small segments connected by a PLAY ALL function, instead of just showing a couple minutes at a time.
Maybe Disney will start listening to the collectors of their DVD's and realize that we want the quality we are paying for.
I don't think this is so much of an issue now - but in the old days of Black and White films and early colour films, the actual colours on the film sets and make-up would not be the colours the filmmakers wanted to show on the final film. In otherwords, the filmmakers knew that film would alter the 'real' colours, so they would compensate for this during the filming. Often by using colours much brighter than they would normally. This was one of the main jobs of the cinematographer or director of photography.rnrlesnar wrote:Not at all. That "warmth" is caused by inferior video technology. I would think that the digital transfer represents what the actual animation cells look like and the way they were intended to be viewed.XxSuRgEoxX wrote:Does anyone else think that the whole Digital to Digital transfer takes away warmth from the film? I watched it and most of the time I was so distracted by how clean and bold everything looked. I think the whole softness of film gives a lot to the movie, but of course this is the IMAX version and I guess that's whats expected. If it was the original I don't think it would be that jarring. The same can be said for Beauty and the Beast.
Of course these days the film stock and equipment is much more accurate so colours used on set mainly are 'real'.
So for Beauty and the Beast, it's possible that the filmmakers knew the colours would be 'duller' on the final film and copensated for this when colouring the animation. I do agree that on the whole the new colours benefit the film, not I am 100% convinced the new colours do match the filmmakers intent when shadows or scenes in the dark are used. As I've said before, the whole 'Step into the light' sequence looses all of it's dramatic value on the DVD version of the film because we can see the Beast clearly all through the sequence.
As for the Lion King, I think this is a different issue. The colours used in the film are not digital representations of the originals, but some sequences have been recoloured:
As for changes to the film in general, it's way more than just the Crocodlies:... at the same time we were able to improve the color palette by simplifying it.
... The Color Palette was also changed.
The new IMAX version actually involves much more than the same movie on a really big screen. The Disney animators and technicians have re-formatted the film frame by frame and created new elements from the original digital information. They also enhanced the colors and corrected scenes and characters that they thought could have been tighter or better drawn. And they re-drew or re-sized many characters in dimensions more befitting the gigantic IMAX proportions. The sound design was also altered to maximize the effects of the booming IMAX audio experience.
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