10th anniversary Special Edition of Hunchback?

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MovieMusicals.net wrote:Plus, it is Michael Eisner's favorite film!
I know I've said this a million times, but I think this is the main reason we can be 99% certain of a 2-disc release. That's one reason I'm glad to have Eisner around.

And T/P Fan, it's true. Hunchback did great in the box office, so that's not a reason.
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MovieMusicals.net wrote:Timon/Pumba fan,



Worldwide Grosses
The Lion King - 783million
Tarzan - 448million
Beauty & the Beast - 377million
Pocahontas - 346million
Hunchback - 325million
Mulan - 304million
Hercules - 252million
Little Mermaid - 211million

Hunchback did much better than Mulan, Hercules, and Little Mermaid! Those totals don't even include home video sales/rentals!
:o woah, Tarzan, Hercules and Hunchback did much better than i thought they did, i cant imagine them not getting 2-disc treatment now, it wouldn't make any sense :?
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Little Mermaid was 1989, too. I'd say add 50million for inflation, no?
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The Hunchback of Notre Dame was not a huge success in the way the previous films were. It made its money back, but it did not have 200% profits like some of the earlier releases. For some reason, the budget piked upward with each release, so by the mid-90's, Disney was spending around 100 million dollars to produce and market their movies. :)
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Forgot to add Aladdin, which was 504million.
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I´m sure we´ll see a 2Disc for Hunchback next year, I have no doubts, it´s simple:

They released Mulan SE last year and are rereleasing Tarzan this year cause by their 10th anniversaries it will be to late to release them on DVD, then we got Pocahontas this year, so it is FOR SURE a 2disc Hunchback coming next year, and Hercules in 2007. That way all the nineties movies will have a 2 Disc special edition they deserve, and have the potential
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I've been really hoping for one. But even if a Hunchback 2 disc is released in the US, it's possible that other countries will get a lame 1 disc once more.
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I have no doubt that The Hunchback of Notre Dame will get a new release within the next year. This and Hercules are the only 90s animated films (beside The Rescuers Down Under, but I see no hope for that film) that haven't recieved some sort of 2-Disc treatment. These movies were one of Disney's best and they haven't forgotten it. They wouldn't just single them out and allow movie fans to settle for crappy editions. And also Disney is beginning to use the "Anniversiary Edition" Series more often. I thought it was only going to be used for Mary Poppins but Pocahontas and Toy Story have followed. I'm sure that with their 10th Anniversaries coming up soon, Disney will definetly sieze the oppurtunity.

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Don't forget A GOOFY MOVIE. I could have sworn I saw this in theatres, but I'm told it was direct to video. If it was DTV, it was the BEST DTV ever.
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I don't know who told you that, but your memory is right: A Goofy Movie was released theatrically in 1995. I know this because a) I, too, saw it in theaters and b) IMDb would've put a "(V)" next to the title, and they haven't. The person who told you that may have been thinking of An Extremely Goofy Movie, which is the DTV sequel.
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Whoa, I learned something today. I had no idea A Goofy Movie was released theatrically. I agree, it was an awesome movie. I need to watch it again.......
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Pasta67 wrote:Whoa, I learned something today. I had no idea A Goofy Movie was released theatrically. I agree, it was an awesome movie. I need to watch it again.......
Yes watch it again! It's a great movie that I refused to buy on DVD since it's only in pan & scan/ foolscreen. I bought it though since it was pretty cheap and disappearing fast and I'm not overly optimistic that it will be rereleased anytime soon.
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MovieMusicals.net wrote:Don't forget A GOOFY MOVIE.
It may have been released in the 90s, but it was not from feature animation! Although the movie is good, I doubt we'd be seeing a 2 discer any time soon... :(
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I doubt it will ever get a 2-disc, but I suspect a single disc SE release is very plausible.
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I doubt there will ever be a Special Edition of A Goofy Movie . First off, Disney would have taken the oppurtunity to do a "10th Anniversary" this year. I don't think there is enough material for them to even do a 2-Disc. And I doubt they would take the time just to release a One-Disc Special Edition. Maybe a re-release?

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MovieMusicals.net wrote:Timon/Pumba fan,

Honestly, just because you didn't like the movie doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. And your "reasons" why it shouldn't be released were very inaccurate.

1) Disney doesn't always start "rumors" for every thing they do. Nor do they need to.

2) FLOP?? Are you kidding! The film made over $325million in box office worldwide!!...

Worldwide Grosses
The Lion King - 783million
Aladdin - 504million
Tarzan - 448million
Beauty & the Beast - 377million
Pocahontas - 346million
Hunchback - 325million
Mulan - 304million
Hercules - 252million
Little Mermaid - 211million

Hunchback did much better than Mulan, Hercules, and Little Mermaid! Those totals don't even include home video sales/rentals!

3) FORGETTABLE? Puh-lease. It was a hit German stage musical that was rumored to come to Broadway. It was a favorite stage show at MGM Studios. A sequel was made to bank of its already established success.

Plus, it is Michael Eisner's favorite film! He nearly green-lit a TV musical version for ABC last year before this whole Disney scandal happened.
1. I read my previous post several times and I don't think anywhere in there did I say that the movie would never get released in a 2-Disc set because I didn't like it. I just said I didn't like it just to express my feelings for the film a little bit.

2. Well after reading Disneykid's post I now think The Hunchback WILL get a 2-Disc set. However I don't think it will get a 10th anniversary. If it does get released as a 2 Disc set I'm guessing somewhere in 2007. Remember this is just my opinion I don't have the slightest idea, none of us do.

3. Well maybe flop wasn't the right word, the word I was probably meaning is disappointment. For one The Little Mermaid did pass the Hunchback because The Little Mermaid was released in 1989 and The Hunchback was released in 1996. The prices for movie tickets changed alot from just 7 years so The Little Mermaid passed The Hunchback, but barely. However The Little Mermaid still got more successful than The Hunchback because The Little Mermaid gave Disney their first Oscar since Bedknobs and Broomsticks, The Hunchback got nothing. And when you mention video records, The Little Mermaid crushed The Hunchback. Not to mention The Little Mermaid got better reviews. So while The Hunchback wasn't a flop, it still was the most disappointing and most forgotten Disney film from the 90's because at least Mulan got rave reviews and is considered today one of Disney's last "great" movies. And Hercules comes close to the most forgotten, but at least that movie got a bit more popular than The Hunchback. In fact The Hunchback is hardly even known anymore except for Disney fans.

4. Remember the music being forgettable was my opinion! Nothing more. Besides while The Hunchback was most likely was a "loved" show at MGM(I never been to that show so I have no clue) but I do know that they did close it when MGM still has enough room to put that new stunt show somewhere else. I guess The Hunchback was getting forgotten at Disney Theme Parks too. I mean when the film got released you saw those characters non-stop. Today in 2005 I can't find a single character from that movie at any theme park anymore.

5. Remember Micheal Eisner refused to distribute the "Lord Of the Rings" series. So you know what that means, 17 oscars and more than 2 billion dollars thrown away. So much for Eisner's choices.

As for A Goofy Movie 2 Disc Special Edition, that would be a miracle! While I love this movie, the film is just remembered as a fun, but forgettable movie. So I don't think we'll see that any time in the future! :(
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Timon/Pumba fan,

I'm a very agressive debater and this tends to make me seem offensive. And I remember you said you were only 13 or 14, so I will have to try to be nice...

1) Hunchback has an 80% fresh value at Rotten Tomatoes, while Mermaid has 89%. Both have mostly positive reviews - I don't know what you're talking about with Hunchback getting bad reviews. All films will have negative reviews, but at the reviews listed at Rotten Tomatoes, they are mostly positive for both films, while both having their share of negatives.

2) Unforgettable? Hardly. You don't see Little Mermaid characters in the parks now, do ya? Except for Ariel in the parades, who is part of the Princess line. Esmeralda is not a princess and not marketed in the Princess line, so she wouldn't be featured. Even still, I often see her in the theme parks for photo opportunities. Both films were mass merchandised. Both had sequels. Both have/will have stage musicals done. Both have/had theme park shows.

And of course Little Mermaid will be more popular than Hunchback. It was the film that rebirthed the Disney musical. Plus it was a better film. It doesn't make Hunchback a BAD film. Hunchback was very good. In my opinion, better than Mulan and Hercules.

3) No, even with the price difference, Hunchback would have still done better in the box office than Mermaid:

http://www.natoonline.org/statisticstickets.htm

In 1989, average ticket price was $3.99 and in 1996 was $4.42. That's less than fifty cents. Mermaid would barely have made the $300million mark. So no, Little Mermaid did NOT pass Hunchback.

Little Mermaid "crushed" Hunchback?? There is no proof Mermaid did better in video sales/records. This information is not publicly available. It was released 7 years earlier, so I would imagine it might have done better because it had more time. Find the initial rental/sales information and I'll believe you.

4) The only thing I SLIGHTLY agree with was calling Hunchback "disappointing." It was SLIGHTLY disappointing because it wasn't as good as Mermaid, Beast, Aladdin, and Lion King. Hunchback, Mulan, and Pocahontas were not as good. And then Hercules and Tarzan would be group-ranked third.
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MovieMusicals.net wrote:You don't see Little Mermaid characters in the parks now, do ya?
Well, if you're talking about the characters just walking around the parks like the other characters do, you must remember that the Little Mermaid characters were not designed to walk. Characters like that can pretty much only be used in parades, so that seems kind of like a cheap shot.

Man this post was off-topic.
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As I said, Mermaid is more common in parades and Hunchback is more common on the streets. No cheap shot, they're both there. I also said Ariel is seen more often because she is promoted in the Princess line.
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Pasta67 wrote:
MovieMusicals.net wrote:You don't see Little Mermaid characters in the parks now, do ya?
Well, if you're talking about the characters just walking around the parks like the other characters do, you must remember that the Little Mermaid characters were not designed to walk. Characters like that can pretty much only be used in parades, so that seems kind of like a cheap shot.
I was thinking the same thing. Ariel, Sebastion and Ursula are LOGO characters for the Disney company, but they all have issues with being able to walk around. Heck, the most they've ever done for Ursula is make robots of her. She's too big for someone to wear a costume of her.
In 1989, average ticket price was $3.99 and in 1996 was $4.42. That's less than fifty cents. Mermaid would barely have made the $300million mark. So no, Little Mermaid did NOT pass Hunchback.
You do realize how much 43 cents accounts for when SO many people are buying tickets don't you?

This is a very poor example (don't laugh at me!), but I used a calculator with that.

THoND - $325, 000, 000/4.42 = 73,529, 411.76
TLM - $300, 000, 000/3.99 = 75, 187, 969.92

TLM wins. Of course, I'm sure different countries have different prices of tickets...

So stop saying Hunchback did better than Mermaid, because it's obvious it didn't. Mermaid made it into the top fourteen best sellers (The Platinums), Hunchback did not. It doesn't mean Hunchback is a BAD movie because Mermaid did better, it just means it didn't sell as well.
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