Star Wars III on DVD 11/1!!!!

[Siren]

I'm patiently waiting for the 6 movie box set... I don't currently own any Star Wars movies on DVD.. I'm assuming, 6 movies.. 4 bonus DVD's, 10 DVD's, 100 bucks for the set sounds about right for lucas.. So I'll set aside 150 for when the real price is released

Ditto. Though I haven't set the money aside. I'll put it on layaway at WalMart or something. But my daughter (6 years old) is pushing me to buy the box set of 4-6, and I am digging my heels in on that one. I want to wait for the booku version. In the end, I'll be saving money. Plus sometimes those mega releases have an extra disc that won't be released anywhere else. Or other collector items like lithographs, artwork, etc,

[2099net]

I still don't see why people keep insulting Attack of the Clones. Though it's not as good as the original trilogy or ROTS, I still think the movie was actually pretty good.

Reasons why Attack of the Clones is a "snooze-fest".

1. As with The Phantom Menace, Lucas assumed that the effects would wow the audience and didn't even bother to write any character moments or even try to get his actors to act. I find it incredible that such talented actors as McGregor, Portman and Lee go through the whole movie looking like they simply said the lines without caring about the substance.

Just like too much sugar can make you sick, to many effects set-pieces can make you bored. Give us films of substance, not glitz.

(And this is not unique to the Star Wars prequels. Most "blockbusters" today suffer from the same problem. See craptacular films like Van Helsing).

2. We knew - more or less - everything that was going to happen. We knew Anakin wouldn't die. We knew Obi-Wan wouldn't die. We knew that Princess Amidala wouldn't die. So all the big action set peices such as the robot factory battle and the gladitorial ring fight were as exciting as watching paint dry (and again, spoilt by too many special effects). The great bearded one didn't even create any new characters we cared about and place them in danger which would have given us some true suspense, being as their fate would be unknown.

As for Anakin's Mother's fate and the slaughter of the Sandpeople. Well, most people predicted something along those lines way before the film actually opened. Again, a problem of making a film with the backstory is already known.

I'm constantly amazed how people who are anti-Disney-sequel (and often use such phrases as "is a sequel necessary?" seem to support these pointless Star Wars prequels. Enough of the backstory was presented in the original trilogy to not only make the original trilogy comprehensible, but to render the prequels "unnecessary". Ultimately, if the prequels were never made, nobody would miss them as the key points are known.

3. Stuff like Jango Fett and the origin of the stormtroopers. Well, yes, they're cool. I can totally understand the appeal of such "continuity" to the Star Wars fans. But not everyone is a Star Wars fan. Being a huge Marvel Comic fan, and a huge Doctor Who fan, I can understand 100% the appeal of such "rewards" to the faithful. But I'm also old enough now to know that such "rewards" are missed by the majority of the audience, or if done badly actually alienate the audience. Even the much discussed "Clone Wars" would mean very little to the casual Star Wars viewing audience (who basically will just remember character names and due to all the hype know that Anakin will become Darth Vader).

In short, Attack of the Clones didn't offer anything to a casual movie viewer. The plot was poor, the dialogue was weak, the acting mechanical, the effects overwhelming and the suspense non-existant. (Of course that's just my opinion). I do think Attack of the Clones was worse than The Phantom Menace.

I think the whole idea of a prequel trilogy is a huge mistake. How can you add much of interest to a story where the key points are already known and part of the series' mythology? Also, why does everything have to be known? There seems to be a trend in entertainment recently for everything having to be explained in minute detail, or else its a "plot hole". Well, I don't know if any of you actually live in the real world or not, but it's full of "plot holes", but functions just fine.

I think, if Lucas wanted to tell such a story, it would be better done in prose. A book or series of books for those who wanted to know about Anakin's fall to choose to read. The new films should have been sequels. A trilogy of sequels would be much more rewarding narratively, given that they would be exploring the great unknown rather than the "partly known". Oh but I forgot. Sequels suck.

[Loomis]

I absolutely agree with everything Netty said. I would go so far as to say many of these problems carried over into Revenge of the Sith, as it was arguably the most pointless of all the prequels.

We knew basically that it had to come down to Obi-Wan v Anakin (as was established in Jedi), so everything leading up to that was pointless filler.

3. Stuff like Jango Fett and the origin of the stormtroopers. Well, yes, they're cool. I can totally understand the appeal of such "continuity" to the Star Wars fans. But not everyone is a Star Wars fan. Being a huge Marvel Comic fan, and a huge Doctor Who fan, I can understand 100% the appeal of such "rewards" to the faithful.

Yup, and Episode III was JAM PACKED with such pointless rewards. General Grievous was cool, and a nice touch for fans of Clone Wars, but what purpose did he serve in advancing the plot? He looked damn cool, that's for sure, but his appearance and departure did nothing to further the story. The Wookies, while also being very "cool", served little or no purpose, other that to include Wookies in the new trilogy. All leading up to the biggest fan boy reward - Darth Vader. Yes, we know he turned to the Dark Side and is more machine than man now - do we need to know exactly how, and with really bad scripting?

At the end of the day, I can say I really enjoyed watching the movie, but it didn't effect me at all. It made me want to watch the original films, and that is a good thing. However, these basically fail because they don't further the story, they just try and pump up the limited backstory with (soon to be dated) CGI.

[Maerj]

Yes Revenge of the Sith is one of the best films I ever saw! And I really wanting it to be the #1 movie at the box-office. However the crowds are all ready slowing down! So I want people to see it at least twice. And if you haven't seen it, see it now! You won't be disappointed!

I'm going to see it for the second time sometime this month. RotS has been in theaters for around 2 weeks and according to Yahoo!, has made about $290,115,000 so far. It still has a long way to go before it gets to #1 in the box office. To do that, it has to beat Titanic, which made $600,788,188 in it's entire run.

So for everyone who did not read that box office report above, summarized, it means: Go see RotS now!

ROTS made $308 million in 3 weeks. Titanic took at least 6 months to get it's $600 million and that was with no big movies opening at all. In our hearts and minds ROTS has already surpassed Titanic!

[Pasta67]

I'm going to see it for the second time sometime this month. RotS has been in theaters for around 2 weeks and according to Yahoo!, has made about $290,115,000 so far. It still has a long way to go before it gets to #1 in the box office. To do that, it has to beat Titanic, which made $600,788,188 in it's entire run.

So for everyone who did not read that box office report above, summarized, it means: Go see RotS now!

ROTS made $308 million in 3 weeks. Titanic took at least 6 months to get it's $600 million and that was with no big movies opening at all. In our hearts and minds ROTS has already surpassed Titanic!

It hasn't even been out for 3 weeks though. It came out May 19.

[Maerj]

Sweet! In less than 3 weeks it made that much, that's even better. I know I need to go see it again soon.

[PatrickvD]

I'm going to see it for the second time sometime this month. RotS has been in theaters for around 2 weeks and according to Yahoo!, has made about $290,115,000 so far. It still has a long way to go before it gets to #1 in the box office. To do that, it has to beat Titanic, which made $600,788,188 in it's entire run.

So for everyone who did not read that box office report above, summarized, it means: Go see RotS now!

ROTS made $308 million in 3 weeks. Titanic took at least 6 months to get it's $600 million and that was with no big movies opening at all. In our hearts and minds ROTS has already surpassed Titanic!

that's really silly. Adjusted, Titanic made $821,413,700. Plus another 2 billion from the international market. Star Wars on the other hand, will not even pass $400 million in the US.

[Disney-Fan]

that's really silly. Adjusted, Titanic made $821,413,700. Plus another 2 billion from the international market. Star Wars on the other hand, will not even pass $400 million in the US.

Do you REALLY believe that?
And you are a bit off. Titanic made an overall gross of 1.8 billion dollars. It never passed the 2 billion mark.

[PatrickvD]

that's really silly. Adjusted, Titanic made $821,413,700. Plus another 2 billion from the international market. Star Wars on the other hand, will not even pass $400 million in the US.

Do you REALLY believe that?
And you are a bit off. Titanic made an overall gross of 1.8 billion dollars. It never passed the 2 billion mark.

actually I was referring to adjusted figures. Wich are not available for its international gross. I know it made 1.8, but it's safe to assume it will have made over 2 billion when adjusted.

[Pasta67]

that's really silly. Adjusted, Titanic made $821,413,700. Plus another 2 billion from the international market. Star Wars on the other hand, will not even pass $400 million in the US.

Oh, really? Sorry for the false box offce info then. Yahoo! had that listed for its' all time gross. Here's the link: http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/alltime/
As for Star Wars not passing $400 million, only time will tell.

[Maerj]

Well if you want to really be silly, any movie today would have to make over $1 billion domestically to beat the original Star Wars film in adjusted dollars. So, nyah! What it really comes down to is that Sith an excellent movie, its doing really well and a lot of these online people can't handle it and its really too bad because they're really only ruining the experience for themselves.

[MickeyMousePal]

Only time will tell when ROTS will beat Titanic's record.
Come on it's still a hot movie next week it might fall in 5th place.
Next weekend will belong to Mr. & Mrs. Smith.

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

I would go so far as to say many of these problems carried over into Revenge of the Sith, as it was arguably the most pointless of all the prequels.

We knew basically that it had to come down to Obi-Wan v Anakin (as was established in Jedi), so everything leading up to that was pointless filler.

3. Stuff like Jango Fett and the origin of the stormtroopers. Well, yes, they're cool. I can totally understand the appeal of such "continuity" to the Star Wars fans. But not everyone is a Star Wars fan. Being a huge Marvel Comic fan, and a huge Doctor Who fan, I can understand 100% the appeal of such "rewards" to the faithful.

Yup, and Episode III was JAM PACKED with such pointless rewards. General Grievous was cool, and a nice touch for fans of Clone Wars, but what purpose did he serve in advancing the plot? He looked damn cool, that's for sure, but his appearance and departure did nothing to further the story. The Wookies, while also being very "cool", served little or no purpose, other that to include Wookies in the new trilogy. All leading up to the biggest fan boy reward - Darth Vader. Yes, we know he turned to the Dark Side and is more machine than man now - do we need to know exactly how, and with really bad scripting?

Well I think it was interesting to see how everything happened. I had alot of questions answered because of Revenge of The Sith. I thought the story was entertaining. The battle scenes were of coarse extrodanary! I think you should watch it with an open mind, I think it's great that we now know all the secrets to the original trilogy.

As for Episode 2 being bad, sure we knew nobody was going to die, but I still thought the story was interesting, and I was actually thrilled during that machine area because I wasn't thinking "Oh who cares Anakin isn't going to die" I was interested into knowing how was he going to escape this! So I really liked Clones, despite of everyone saying that it's boring, I was enjoying the whole ride!

ROTS made $308 million in 3 weeks. Titanic took at least 6 months to get it's $600 million and that was with no big movies opening at all. In our hearts and minds ROTS has already surpassed Titanic!

that's really silly. Adjusted, Titanic made $821,413,700. Plus another 2 billion from the international market. Star Wars on the other hand, will not even pass $400 million in the US.

Well if your going to be like that then the original Star Wars beats Titanic by a long shot! Just look here:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

It's a much better list than the regular one!

[Pasta67]

I still don't see why people keep insulting Attack of the Clones. Though it's not as good as the original trilogy or ROTS, I still think the movie was actually pretty good.

Reasons why Attack of the Clones is a "snooze-fest".

1. As with The Phantom Menace, Lucas assumed that the effects would wow the audience and didn't even bother to write any character moments or even try to get his actors to act. I find it incredible that such talented actors as McGregor, Portman and Lee go through the whole movie looking like they simply said the lines without caring about the substance.

Just like too much sugar can make you sick, to many effects set-pieces can make you bored. Give us films of substance, not glitz.

(And this is not unique to the Star Wars prequels. Most "blockbusters" today suffer from the same problem. See craptacular films like Van Helsing).

2. We knew - more or less - everything that was going to happen. We knew Anakin wouldn't die. We knew Obi-Wan wouldn't die. We knew that Princess Amidala wouldn't die. So all the big action set peices such as the robot factory battle and the gladitorial ring fight were as exciting as watching paint dry (and again, spoilt by too many special effects). The great bearded one didn't even create any new characters we cared about and place them in danger which would have given us some true suspense, being as their fate would be unknown.

As for Anakin's Mother's fate and the slaughter of the Sandpeople. Well, most people predicted something along those lines way before the film actually opened. Again, a problem of making a film with the backstory is already known.

I'm constantly amazed how people who are anti-Disney-sequel (and often use such phrases as "is a sequel necessary?" seem to support these pointless Star Wars prequels. Enough of the backstory was presented in the original trilogy to not only make the original trilogy comprehensible, but to render the prequels "unnecessary". Ultimately, if the prequels were never made, nobody would miss them as the key points are known.

3. Stuff like Jango Fett and the origin of the stormtroopers. Well, yes, they're cool. I can totally understand the appeal of such "continuity" to the Star Wars fans. But not everyone is a Star Wars fan. Being a huge Marvel Comic fan, and a huge Doctor Who fan, I can understand 100% the appeal of such "rewards" to the faithful. But I'm also old enough now to know that such "rewards" are missed by the majority of the audience, or if done badly actually alienate the audience. Even the much discussed "Clone Wars" would mean very little to the casual Star Wars viewing audience (who basically will just remember character names and due to all the hype know that Anakin will become Darth Vader).

In short, Attack of the Clones didn't offer anything to a casual movie viewer. The plot was poor, the dialogue was weak, the acting mechanical, the effects overwhelming and the suspense non-existant. (Of course that's just my opinion). I do think Attack of the Clones was worse than The Phantom Menace.

I think the whole idea of a prequel trilogy is a huge mistake. How can you add much of interest to a story where the key points are already known and part of the series' mythology? Also, why does everything have to be known? There seems to be a trend in entertainment recently for everything having to be explained in minute detail, or else its a "plot hole". Well, I don't know if any of you actually live in the real world or not, but it's full of "plot holes", but functions just fine.

I think, if Lucas wanted to tell such a story, it would be better done in prose. A book or series of books for those who wanted to know about Anakin's fall to choose to read. The new films should have been sequels. A trilogy of sequels would be much more rewarding narratively, given that they would be exploring the great unknown rather than the "partly known". Oh but I forgot. Sequels suck.

As predictable as the prequels are, I liked Attack of the Clones much better that Phantom Menace. I knew that nothing surprising would happen with the plot, but that didn't stop me from enjoying the movie. Here are some good and bad points regarding the movie.

1) The script in the prequels has been bad, but that's because Lucas got an ego and thought he could write a good script by himself, without hiring good writers like he did with the original trilogy.

2) You gotta admit, Ewan McGregor did an excellent job as Obi-Wan Kenobi. He was practically a mirror image of Alec Guinness; I really felt like Ewan was a younger version of Alec.

3) Hayden as Anakin did give a pretty awkward performance, but that's the worst I can say about the acting.

4) I admit that there are parts where the movie just slows down and even stops, and I can think of at least 4 scenes that could have been removed and we'd still get the same amount of information.

5) The lightsaber battles were awesome! Yoda kicks some major arse in the climax, which left the audience wanting more and more.

So, the dialogue was bad, but coming out of the mouths of actors who (most of them) knew what they were doing, mixed with excellent fight scenes, and some (unfortunately) useless scenes, I give Episode II a 7/10. While not great, it's not as bad as you make it sound.

[Pasta67]

New Box-office news for Revenge of the Sith.

http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-06-06/#2

[Maerj]

Here's a good article:

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... 1/50513140

[Maerj]

Here's another really good article/story:

http://www.theforce.net/celebration/sto ... _92083.asp

[lord-of-sith]

Wow, Maerj, that second one really is great!

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

Great stories Maerj!

I liked the second story! It was sweet!

[lord-of-sith]

This new isn't extremely new, but good none the less. Here. Nov. 1st appears to be the date! Also, the boxed sets news is good for some!