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Question for Canadian Disney consumers.

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When you buy Disney DVD's from places such as Amazon.com (not Amazon.ca) and deepdiscountdvd.com do you receive the American versions of the film or the "French Track Included" version printed on the cover?

I'm moving to Canada again soon and would like some options to stave of homesickness.
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I am no big deepdiscountdvd.com expert but as long as the store is American then you get the American edition without that terrible yellow thing.
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I've never bought DVD's from American chains, but I think even if it was to be shipped to Canada, they would send the american version unless, for Canadian consumers, the merchandise comes from a different warehouse (in Canada).
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That's why I was wondering. Does amazon.com just ship from amazon.ca if it's going to a Canadian address?
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If you have a Canadian address, I don't think amazon.com allows you to order from there, it will say to go to amazon.ca. If you order from amazon.ca it will send you the Canadian version of a DVD with the "francais" circle on it.
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yeah...I think if there is a Canadian counterpart to the company they will ship it from there instead. But, I dont usually do a lot of online dvd purchases, I get most of my dvd's from work anyways.
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thatartguy wrote:That's why I was wondering. Does amazon.com just ship from amazon.ca if it's going to a Canadian address?
Yep but shipping is way more than amazon.ca at least on some items.
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You can order from amazon.com even if you are canadians because they carry different things so you would probably get the american version or buy it on ebay you'll get an american version a lot of us seller ship to Canada.I received my incredibles dvd and it's true the the yellow spot is ugly but in quebc we have laws that you need to write it on the cover because there is still a couple of people that don't speak a word of english except Yes,No and toaster :P
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I actually have experience with this and can confirm that an order from amazon.com will send it from their storeroom instead of from amazon.ca's. I learned this b/c I ordered "Sleeping Beauty" soundtrack from amazon.ca (it's not available on .com) and had to pay extra to ship it to the US.
I would expect that you would most likely get the American version of any DVD you purchase.
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I'm French and live in France and always order my Disney DVDs through Amazon.com even though it's more expenseive than on other canadian websites (DVDSoon for instance).
And the only reason I do that is that amazon.com is a true american website so the DVDs they sell are the ones sell in yhe US and you don't find that big, horrible and ugly sticker saying "Version Française incluse" ! :roll: :D
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Jordan wrote:And the only reason I do that is that amazon.com is a true american website so the DVDs they sell are the ones sell in yhe US and you don't find that big, horrible and ugly sticker saying "Version Française incluse" ! :roll: :D
I wish it were a sticker! Then I could take it off! :lol: The stupid thing is printed on there. At least the Canadian versions of the Treasures series is mostly the same. (British spelling of words and Canadian ratings are the only changes.)

So here's a heads up for all of you in the States... they made another 100,000 copies of each Disney Treasures for Canada, and they have a tenth of the population. They're 99.5% identical (contents ARE identical), so if you can't find them here...
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Fox is the worst though. They'll sacrifice special covers like The Simpsons Season 5 die-cut cover and other bells and whistles that the US release receives to accomodate the extra room for the French title. I know it's a law in Canada, but I also know that it's also a double standard with Quebec. (Everything has to have equal sized French text on it, but not English. Good luck to the people in Alberta visiting Quebec.) I mean really, can't they figure out the difference between "The Simpsons" and "Les Simpsons"?

They should have taken the stance that Nintendo and Sony did. A politician said that they would outlaw their videogames in Quebec if they didn't start putting French on and in their games, and threatened a lawsuit. Both Sony and Nintendo said, "Fine. We won't sell our product there." I haven't heard anything about it since.

(I'm not trying to start a debate, just fuming over my distaste for politics. :D )
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thatartguy wrote:Fox is the worst though. They'll sacrifice special covers like The Simpsons Season 5 die-cut cover and other bells and whistles that the US release receives to accomodate the extra room for the French title. I know it's a law in Canada, but I also know that it's also a double standard with Quebec. (Everything has to have equal sized French text on it, but not English. Good luck to the people in Alberta visiting Quebec.) I mean really, can't they figure out the difference between "The Simpsons" and "Les Simpsons"?

They should have taken the stance that Nintendo and Sony did. A politician said that they would outlaw their videogames in Quebec if they didn't start putting French on and in their games, and threatened a lawsuit. Both Sony and Nintendo said, "Fine. We won't sell our product there." I haven't heard anything about it since.

(I'm not trying to start a debate, just fuming over my distaste for politics. :D )
You're right about a few things, but not so right about others. It isn't Law in Canada that all packaging must have French (I have many DVD's that I bought up here that don't have so much as a ink drop of French on them). However, it is prefered by companies because they think it will sell more if it has french plastered all over the cover. To this end I think it's rather stupid. If you really want French on the cover, put it on the backside of the cover and allow people to make their choice as to whether they want the English or French cover. Show the all French covers in Quebec by all means, but in Ontario, Alberta, and most other places in Canada for that matter there are very few that speak exclusive French and thus no need for French on the covers.

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What about the guy that wanted to put French on the bottles for the medication that he manufactured, but wanted to put it in smaller text? He caught a lot of flack for that one. I wish I can remember the exact instance. It was around 3 years ago...

Ahh here is the labeling law:

Canada's Labeling Requirements

Canada has both a generic labeling law and various product specific labeling laws. Product specific labeling laws supersede the generic labeling law and will function as the definitive labeling laws for specific products to the extent that such product specific labeling laws exist. Information on the existence of product specific labeling laws is available through the various regional offices of Canada Customs.

Canada's generic labeling law is the Consumer Packaging and Labeling Act (CPLA). This law outlines Canada's basic labeling and packaging requirements for pre-packaged consumer goods. A pre-packaged consumer good is a product that is packaged in a container in such a manner that it is ordinarily sold to a consumer without being re-packaged.

According to CPLA the labels on all pre-packaged consumer goods sold in Canada must contain three pieces of information:

1. A product identity declaration which describes either the product's generic name or its function. This declaration must made be in both English and French and it must appear on the principal display panel of the package. Any typeface style may be used, but it must be easily legible to the Canadian consumer.


2. A net quantity declaration which expresses the product's metric units of volume, metric units of weight or numerical count. This declaration must be made in both English and French and it must appear on the principal display of the package in a type face that is easily legible to the Canadian consumer.


3. The dealer's name and principal place of business which states the identity and principal place of business where the pre-packaged consumer product was manufactured or produced for resale. It may be made in either English or French and may appear anywhere on the outside surface of the package except the bottom.

Supplemental label information (directions for use, etc.) is not mandatory under the CPLA and does not have to be in bilingual format when it appears on a consumer product label, except in the Province of Quebec where each and every piece of product information appearing on a consumer product label must appear in bilingual format. The CPLA prohibits the appearance on consumer product labels of any information which is false or misleading.


Information on the CPLA is available through the various regional offices of Consumer & Corporate Affairs Canada.
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thatartguy wrote:What about the guy that wanted to put French on the bottles for the medication that he manufactured, but wanted to put it in smaller text? He caught a lot of flack for that one. I wish I can remember the exact instance. It was around 3 years ago...

Ahh here is the labeling law:

Canada's Labeling Requirements

Canada has both a generic labeling law and various product specific labeling laws. Product specific labeling laws supersede the generic labeling law and will function as the definitive labeling laws for specific products to the extent that such product specific labeling laws exist. Information on the existence of product specific labeling laws is available through the various regional offices of Canada Customs.

Canada's generic labeling law is the Consumer Packaging and Labeling Act (CPLA). This law outlines Canada's basic labeling and packaging requirements for pre-packaged consumer goods. A pre-packaged consumer good is a product that is packaged in a container in such a manner that it is ordinarily sold to a consumer without being re-packaged.

According to CPLA the labels on all pre-packaged consumer goods sold in Canada must contain three pieces of information:

1. A product identity declaration which describes either the product's generic name or its function. This declaration must made be in both English and French and it must appear on the principal display panel of the package. Any typeface style may be used, but it must be easily legible to the Canadian consumer.


2. A net quantity declaration which expresses the product's metric units of volume, metric units of weight or numerical count. This declaration must be made in both English and French and it must appear on the principal display of the package in a type face that is easily legible to the Canadian consumer.


3. The dealer's name and principal place of business which states the identity and principal place of business where the pre-packaged consumer product was manufactured or produced for resale. It may be made in either English or French and may appear anywhere on the outside surface of the package except the bottom.

Supplemental label information (directions for use, etc.) is not mandatory under the CPLA and does not have to be in bilingual format when it appears on a consumer product label, except in the Province of Quebec where each and every piece of product information appearing on a consumer product label must appear in bilingual format. The CPLA prohibits the appearance on consumer product labels of any information which is false or misleading.


Information on the CPLA is available through the various regional offices of Consumer & Corporate Affairs Canada.
My apologies, however I think much of that focus is based towards critical items (such as medication, or other things of that sort). While it does not specify anything in particular, it is obviously not being enforced very well when it comes to DVDs, as many companies are getting away without a word of French on the package. I think that the enforcing bodies really are not paying much attention to this area at all, and focusing their attention on "critical" items (which is completely understandable).

Again, my apologies, I do not focus in commercial laws (What a friggin' mess those are!!! :lol: Instead, I devote my knowledge to Aboriginal claims and legal issues) and thus am not incredibly knowledgable in them. However, I thought that I would have heard of this law before.... oh well, another reason to steer clear of commercial and corporate law! :lol:
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Yeah, I hear some native stuff too. (Some of my Canadian relatives are native.)
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I guess I should have gone to amazon.com first. They state that they do ship to Canada, but you might incur customs fees. (Of course.) They also state it might be cheaper to order from amazon.ca, so I'm assuming that they wouldn't forward the order to them.

Thanks with all the responses though.
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About the "sticker thing", you're rightand I know you can't take them off but I used the wrong word.
The wrost is that it's also on the slipcover (for the 2-Dsic Special Edition sets) and on the amaray case. It's a dirty yellow and it's big and it's usually put somewhere where it hides a importt part of the cover !! :) :D

About the Trasure, yes, I own some of them in Canadian DVDs and are the same as the US's.

About Fox, I can tell you that it's better not worse ! I own a couple of Fox DVDs that I bought on DVDSoon (which is a Canadian website) and the covers are all in English without any mentionning of the French language.
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thatartguy wrote:When you buy Disney DVD's from places such as Amazon.com (not Amazon.ca) and deepdiscountdvd.com do you receive the American versions of the film or the "French Track Included" version printed on the cover?
From my experinece, you will get it in US version, and they sent out from US warehouse to Amazon.ca first and then from there to your address in Canada.
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