Disney Rareties Tin: SPECULATE!

[jebsdad]

It is still very early but I feel the Disney Rarities set is mainly just the previously mentioned Disney Miscellaneous set renamed - generally the Specials shorts. There were 39 Specials shorts, with some of them in the 25 minute range - such as Ben And Me and The Small One. Goliath II is around 15 minutes.

I do hope that the Rarities collection is the Specials shorts. Several of those Specials have rarely been seen by any Disney fan. Although I've collected nearly all the Disney theatrical shorts from the sound era, I have never seen the 1982 Special short "Fun With Mr. Future".

Here's the 39 shorts considered to be Specials:

Ferdinand The Bull (1938)
Education For Death (1943)
Reason And Emotion (1943)
Chicken Little (1943)
The Pelican And The Snipe (1944)
The Brave Engineer (1950)
Morris, The Midget Moose (1950)
Lambert, The Sheepish Lion (1952)
Susie, The Little Blue Coupe (1952)
The Little House (1952)
Adventures In Music: Melody (1953) (Also known as just "Melody")
Football Now And Then (1953)
Ben And Me (1953)
Toot, Whistle, Plunk, And Boom (1953)
Pigs Is Pigs (1954)
Casey Bats Again (1954)
Social Lion (1954)
Hooked Bear (1956)
Jack And Old Mac (1956)
In The Bag (1956)
A Cowboy Needs A Horse (1956)
The Story Of Anyburg, U.S.A. (1957)
The Truth About Mother Goose (1957)
Paul Bunyan (1958)
Eyes In Outer Space (1959)
Noah's Ark (1959)
Goliath II (1960)
The Saga Of Windwagon Smith (1961)
A Symposium On Popular Songs (1962)
Scrooge McDuck And Money (1967)
It's Tough To Be A Bird (1969)
Dad, Can I Borrow The Car? (1970)
Man, Monsters And Mysteries (1974)
The Small One (1978)
Vincent (1982)
Fun With Mr. Future (1982)
Oilspot And Lipstick (1987)
Off His Rockers (1992)
Stand By Me (1995)

Although I don't have them as part of the 39 Specials, the more recent shorts "Destino", "One By One" and "Lorenzo" could be considered Specials shorts.

[Joe Carioca]

Although I don't have them as part of the 39 Specials, the more recent shorts "Destino", "One By One" and "Lorenzo" could be considered Specials shorts.

And "John Henry". It would be good to finally have it available in widescreen.

[ichabod]

Don't forget "John Henry" from 2000!

[orestes.]

I would hope it's the special shorts. I forgot about those. I've probably seen quite a few of them here and there and a couple of them have been released on DVD but it would be nice to see them in the treasures line.

[Jayden]

What of the remaining Goofy shorts that didn't make it onto The Complete Goofy set? The two I can remember off the top of my head that couldn't really fit anywhere else are the two Freewayphobia ones. Maybe they'll make their way here?

Jebsdad I don't believe that Education for Death, Chicken Little, and Reason And Emotion will make it on this set, as that would unnecessarily repeat what was on the On The Front Lines set. It could happen, but I'd rather see something else in that place

[PatrickvD]

I would love a set with all of those shorts. I have a feeling shorts like Lorenzo, Destino and John Henry have been saved for this Treasure set. And Lambert is like.... my childhood hero... he rocks!

and about the poll, where is the "all of the above" option??

[Mouseketodd]

Did Disney ever produce a driver education film/cartoon with Goofy or Donald?

If so, maybe something like that would be on this Treasure.

You know, there were two Casey cartoons: the orig. poem, and the one with his daughters.

Various of the above-mentioned shorts have been released as extras on DVDs such as Melody Time and Ichobad Crane/Mr. Toad, etc.: like Lambert, Susie, Casey.

[ramday]

I am really hoping this is any animated short that doesn't have a place with any other treasure. The Alice Comedies should have their own treasure if anything because I think there is enough to fill 2 DVDs. As for Oswald I think we're going to have to ask Universal for those because I believe they have the rights to them.

[ichabod]

What of the remaining Goofy shorts that didn't make it onto The Complete Goofy set? The two I can remember off the top of my head that couldn't really fit anywhere else are the two Freewayphobia ones. Maybe they'll make their way here?

Yes those two could also be added to the list of shorts that could feature on this set, as could the 3 Chip 'n' Dale shorts:

Chicken in the Rough - 1951
Two Chips and a Miss - 1952
The Lone Chipmunks - 1954

Also the two Figaro shorts could be included:

Figaro and Cleo - 1943
Figaro and Frankie - 1947

[Lars Vermundsberget]

I think there should be three Figaro titles.

If we get four Treasures, two of them should be cartoons sets. So it seems highly likely that the Rarities would be the "Special" cartoons. (It could be mentioned, though, that a few of the titles on the "long list" aren't really "cartoons" - but animated stop-motion with various objects.)

I wonder how long the Treasures line can be kept going. I guess there should be about four more cartoons sets left after Wave 5. So could there be more than two more waves to go, maybe three? Could they release a wave of Treasures without any cartoons sets at all?

[toonstuff]

Whatever shorts end up on the Rarities set, I hope they've got a plan so that we'll eventually get all of them.

If it comes down to a matter of space, they could always release the one-shot cartoons on this set, and put the Chip and Dale, Humphrey, and Figaro cartoons on another set.

I'd also like to see Lorenzo and Destino, as I missed them in the theater.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Whatever shorts end up on the Rarities set, I hope they've got a plan so that we'll eventually get all of them.

Based on the Treasures so far, I think it's fair to say that there IS a plan this time.

[ohmahaaha]

I wonder how long the Treasures line can be kept going. I guess there should be about four more cartoons sets left after Wave 5. So could there be more than two more waves to go, maybe three? Could they release a wave of Treasures without any cartoons sets at all?

Maltin already said in an interview that was posted on another website either late last year (2004) or earlier this year that the Treasures line was "renewed" by Disney for another 4 years, so we should have 3 more waves after this next one!

I think that the "special" cartoons - many of them are longer than the standard cartoons, so with 39 of those, the "special" cartoons may warrant more than one set.

[Ciaobelli]

I wonder how long the Treasures line can be kept going. I guess there should be about four more cartoons sets left after Wave 5. So could there be more than two more waves to go, maybe three? Could they release a wave of Treasures without any cartoons sets at all?

Maltin already said in an interview that was posted on another website either late last year (2004) or earlier this year that the Treasures line was "renewed" by Disney for another 4 years, so we should have 3 more waves after this next one!

I think that the "special" cartoons - many of them are longer than the standard cartoons, so with 39 of those, the "special" cartoons may warrant more than one set.

Are there any shorts that have been locked up like Der Fuhrer's Face?

[Chernabog]

If we are lucky that can also mean that we can have the cut segment from Make Mine Music: Martin and the Coys on this Rarities set.

[That1GuyPictures]

I'm hoping for SMALL ONE! It's my favorite short ever.
Maybe they could include some cool stuff like Mickey and The Beanstalk
(the version with the Dr. and the cricket...I can't remember their names at the moment.)
I'd rather have song of the south,
but If Small One is on here, I'm buying it flat out!
If it's stuff like the Alice Comedies, I'll pass.

[toonstuff]

While we're on the subject of Treasures, does anyone have a list of which Silly Symphonies are left to be released? I heard that the original tin did not include all of them, and I was wondering if there's enough for a Volume 2.

[MK Sharp]

There's 38 Silly Symphonies left for Vol 2 - 21 B/W and 17 colour. They are:

1929
El Terrible Toreador
Springtime
Hell’s Bells
The Merry Dwarves

1930
Summer
Autumn
Cannibal Capers
Frolicking Fish
Arctic Antics
Midnight In A Toy Shop
Night
Monkey Melodies
Winter
Playful Pan

1931
The Cat’s Out
The Clock Store
The Spider And The Fly
The Fox Hunt

1932
The Bird Store
The Bears And The Bees
King Neptune
Bugs In Love
Santa’s Workshop

1933
Birds In The Spring
Old King Cole
The Pied Piper
The Night Before Christmas

1934
The China Shop
The Goddess Of Spring

1935
Three Orphan Kittens
Cock O’ The Walk
Broken Toys

1936
Three Blind Mousekateers
More Kittens

1937
Little Hiawatha

1938
Moth And The Flame
Merbabies
Mother Goose Goes Hollywood

[Lars Vermundsberget]

I'd even suggest that Silly Symphonies Volume Two repeat the three or so shorts covered up as "Easter Eggs" on Volume One.

[Jayden]

There's 38 Silly Symphonies left for Vol 2 - 21 B/W and 17 colour. They are:

1929
El Terrible Toreador
Springtime
Hell’s Bells
The Merry Dwarves

1930
Summer
Autumn
Cannibal Capers
Frolicking Fish
Arctic Antics
Midnight In A Toy Shop
Night
Monkey Melodies
Winter
Playful Pan

1931
The Cat’s Out
The Clock Store
The Spider And The Fly
The Fox Hunt

1932
The Bird Store
The Bears And The Bees
King Neptune
Bugs In Love
Santa’s Workshop

1933
Birds In The Spring
Old King Cole
The Pied Piper
The Night Before Christmas

1934
The China Shop
The Goddess Of Spring

1935
Three Orphan Kittens
Cock O’ The Walk
Broken Toys

1936
Three Blind Mousekateers
More Kittens

1937
Little Hiawatha

1938
Moth And The Flame
Merbabies
Mother Goose Goes Hollywood

This is a collection I'm really looking forward to. I just got Silly Symphonies and am really liking it so far. I really hope that this comes out soon, as I loved Little Hiawatha as a kid!