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I would like y'all's feedback regarding this movie. I don't have it, and was wondering if I should add it to my collection. I haven't seen it in stores (target, walmart, kmart) and was wondering how popular this movie is (meaning if I do finally see it, should I grab it?).

I know the majority of the group here doesn't like sequels, so I already know that is a big minus so far.

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is a ok movie, is one of the very well made sequels and shows us that Disney can make decent sequels with good animation, the only annoying thing is scott wolf's voice as scamp very annoying!, the junk yard dog song is very stupid and the new story line kinda fits and dont to the original. over all is a ok movie and the bonus are very well made, commentary, pluto shorts, a long making of include Walt. i would probably recomend renting it first if you like it buy it! :) :D
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I could not agree more with MickeyMouseboy. It is definitely a release recommended for younger viewers, a rented one at that. Children just have that ability to deal with an over excessive amount of annoying singing. It seems to never, never end. Now I know why I am so against classic Disney sequels.



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You know i had my doubts about the sequels but some of them have been very good and of course there is some id like to burn. Of course i wont but id like to.

My favorites so far

Lady and the Tramp 2
Little Mermaid 2
Lion King 2

not in any particular order of course

I think Lady and the Tramp 2 is good enough to buy but thats me so rent it and see if you like it. I did that with Tuck Everlasting and i really enjoyed it having never seen it in the theaters.

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sorry but little mermaid 2 should be in your burn pile :lol: :lol: :lol: it was horrible to me atleast. ariel was whinny and the daughter was more like scamp from L&T 2
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Poco-

I thought it was cute. My 3 year-old enjoyed it too. One of the better Disney sequels. I probably wouldn't pay more than $14.99 for it though. Hope that helps :)
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Peter Pan wrote:My favorites so far

Lady and the Tramp 2
Little Mermaid 2
Lion King 2
Those are the only sequels I have bought in one form or another (LK2 being on video only). I thought Mermaid 2 was kinda cute too, but nowhere near the original. That will ALWAYS be my fave Disney movie, and nothing could equal it.

Now L&T2 is not bad in and of itself. Sure, it has some annoying bits in it (songwise), and in comparison to the original it will of course suffer, but it still has a sense of fun about it.

The bonus features are also very impressive for a Direct-to-DVD film as MickeyMouseboy mentioned.

Definitely rent first, as it is going to come down to taste. But I liked it enough to buy it (and that was AFTER I had watched it on the Disney Channel).
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My kids like it. I think it is ok. I would try and pick it up used if possible. YOu can probably find a good price at Wal-Mart.
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im sorry but i totally have to disagree with you on this one. lady and the tramp was one of my favorite disney movies ever and i was very, very disappointed in the sequel. i could almost feel my brains rotting. :lol: i guess it was cute but it definitely didnt live up to the original and that always makes me sad. i dont like sequels because they are so different from the original.... i dont know. it gets a 7/10 at most on my part. :frog:
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Jasmine1022 wrote:im sorry but i totally have to disagree with you on this one.
Your disagreeing with them 3 and a half years too late, lol :P I still haven't bought this yet either, although I might buy it, it's on sale for only $12. 00 at the moment :D
Anyway, a little off-topic, but isn't it weird to see U.D member with such cool names like Peter Pan and Ariel, and they probably don't even remember what Ultimate Disney is! :P :roll:
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Easily the best direct to video sequels have been Bambi 2 and Lion King 2, unless I'm forgetting something (well, Twice Upon a Christmas, if you want to count it).

"Lady and the Tramp 2: Scamp's Adventure" had a lot more potential than people thought. Scamp is an established character for comic fans, and I was quite excited when hearing that he was getting his own movie. It is not one of the worst Disney sequels, but they still botched it pretty badly considering the potential it had.

The big mistakes:

Adult voices for kid characters, Scamp in particular. This also hurt Return to Neverland, though that one is still rather good.

Trying to do the Broadway musical thing, when the original was not like that.

Doing the teen angst thing, and relying too much on retreading old ground. Some nods to the original would have been nice, but I would have preferred they make the story a bit more like an animated Homeward Bound. I wish they had made it so Scamp got lost on a vacation or something and had to use skills learned from both parents (in other words, both sides of the tracks) to make his way home. They still could have included the romance with Angel and some nods to the original film's doggie date.

I would say it is worth owning, because it isn't terrible, but it could have been so much better, and I feel like I've forgotten something too... As a fan of the original, it's a bit disappointing, even if it's still a decent movie. I admit that I haven't watched it in quite some time though.
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Lady and the Tramp II: Scamp Does What They Did

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Well, I thought this had some potential, too. All they needed to do was make it an adventure like in the comics, instead of just putting Scamp and Angel in almost the exact same situation's as Scamp's parents. What really bugged me was Scamp was so young, a child, and I can't take a child seriously (his small body and disproportionately large head looked ridiculous). Scamp's desires were immature. How can the romance between him and Angel be as moving as that of Tramp and Lady's when the they are only puppies?

But by far the best moment of the film was when Buster starts talking about how Scamp betrayed him, and he starts to go mad and foam at the mouth. It's no laughing matter. He loved Scamp dearly (as a friend, of course), and he truly felt abandoned. There wasn't much built on this, but this was the most interesting subplot in the movie to me. It was also very cool how Tramp opened the gate door when no one else could. And what really gets me is at the end, Buster is left behind, never getting any revenge on Tramp, or reunion with Tramp. There was no closure. It was very anti-climactic, to sum it up.

I actually would not have minded a prequel of sorts focusing on Tramp and Buster's relationship. Remember the story about Tramp getting chased down the waterfall? Well, that was another good scene and a movie about similar adventures would have been great! Of course, there couldn't be much prequel for Lady, so perhaps a prequel within a sequel involving the parents sharing their stories could have worked.

For my last words in this rather long post, I found The Little Mermaid II better because even though it rehashed almost everything in the original, at least that had a climax, and we saw just what powers the trident had (controlling all sea creatures...although I don't know if Tip and Dash are really sea creatures). I guess you could say Lady and the Tramp II's climax occured when Tramp rescued Scamp form the big dog in the pound, but somehow I did feel any justifying or anything. I guess it was to prove to Scamp that Tramp was a good fighter, but what did that have to do with the message of staying with your family? Big dogs will attack you if you don't? Your parents will always rescue you if you don't?

To sum everything up: The movie's title character was too immature to be taken seriously, there was too much rehashing, not enough focus on the interesting relationship and history of Buster and Tramp, no closure, and a weak, very short climax that didn't justify a thing. At least Melody "proved herself" at the end of The Little Mermaid II.
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How can the romance between him and Angel be as moving as that of Tramp and Lady's when the they are only puppies?
You forget that Lady was only six months old herself in the first movie. At the beginning, Jim Dear makes the comment that she is about six months old, and they should get her a liscence. Now... Tramp and Lady don't fall in love until at least nine months later, because Darling had the baby, but she would be barely over a year old. She wasn't much older than Scamp, but she was much more mature, you're right. They could have made it so that the puppies fall in love (puppy love) but it wasn't very serious... sometimes they were in love, and sometimes they were just friends. it was very inconsistent.

another thing that bothered me was that Jim Dear knew that her name was Angel. I know that she's cute and angelic, but come on.... that was kind of dumb.

And I don't care if I'm 30 and a half years late, i just wanted to voice my opinion.[/list]
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In my opinion all disney direct-to-video sequels are mediocre compared to the originals in both story in voice acting. Even the lili and stitch sequel was a disappointment.
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My daughter fell in love with this one in her daycare to the extent that I have to borrow the VHS from the daycare. Almost at that time I have begun collecting Disney DVD's and I inmediately acquired the DVD. Five years later I own each and every Region 1 Disney animated release. The rest is history.
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reyquila said
Five years later I own each and every Region 1 Disney animated release. The rest is history.

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Jasmine1022 wrote:reyquila said
Five years later I own each and every Region 1 Disney animated release. The rest is history.

lucky :x
Just be ready when the next format takes off, and buy everything right from the start!
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Lars Vermundsberget wrote:
Jasmine1022 wrote:reyquila said

lucky :x
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