What do you think will happen to Disney w/o pixar?

[lolopimp]

I'm a little worried that after the pixar/disney movie Cars, Disney will no longer have its big-money-making parter Pixar. The company stopped making animated movies for one reason or another (which I really miss those good old days, not including Home on the Range and so on), which really sucks for both the fans and the company. Do you think the company will be able to hold any longer? What about Pixar, will it sucjk without Disney? Or do you think they don't need the name of "Disney" in their movies.
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[Luke]

Well, we can't write the two off yet. Pixar is waiting to see what happens next June when a successor to Eisner is named. It's probably in both of their interests to reach an agreement of some kind, but to do so, each side is going to have to give a little, take a little, let their poor heart break a little.

I don't view Disney's departure from 2-D animation as a permanent thing, but rather a new phase. I don't think it will last too long, either, but who knows. The answer that "the medium is not the movie" seems so obvious to all of us, who think it's silly to only move forward with computer animation. And yet, at the same time, a critical flub like <i>Shark Tale</i> can turn a big profit (even with its expensive, highly-promoted voice cast).

I think that upcoming computer animated films like <i>Chicken Little</i> and <i>Rapunzel Unbraided</i> can be profitable for Disney, and have the potential to be good. Dismissing them because they're CGI is just as bad as dismissing 2-D projects altogether. The DisneyToon Studios appears to be something that will keep 2-D projects alive on a smaller scale. We may have a period where we don't get grand 'next Disney animated film' in 2-D kind of projects, but Disney has output that's quite diverse. <i>The Lion King 1½</i> practically had theatrical-type production values, and <i>The Three Musketeers</i> came close as well. Direct-to-video features like these will continue to be very profitable for Disney, and we'll still see one of these kinds of projects in February, as we have for the last several years.

Then there's the live action Disney which is growing and seems very much a healthy division. There are at least three guaranteed box office successes in the works for the next 2 years, and that's leaving lots of room for moderate surprise hits (like <i>The Princess Diaries</i> was, and the <i>Freaky Friday</i> remake).

Much is changing now, much may change in 2006, but I think Disney will get on, with or without Pixar, as will Pixar with or without Disney. But I have hope they can keep a relationship together, and either way I'm sure I'll remain interested in what each is doing.

[lord-of-sith]

Pixar will definatley win out in this, they don't really need Disney's name now, they did, but now they don't. Disney, on the otherhand, will make money no matter what. Hopefully, though the chance is quite slim, Disney will go back to making traditionally animated films. That's what made Disney famous, if it wasn't for a traditionally animated film, Disney wouldn't exist. Just because Home on the Range made only about 50 million dollars, doesn't meen people don't want to see a traditionally animated film anymore. It means people want to see a good traditionally animated film, because this film wasn't exactly praised by critics. Well, there's my two cents.

[Ciaobelli]

I hope that they will get back together. Better w/ Disney than God knows what other studio. Plus, Pixar needs Disney, if god forbid one of their movies bombs its game over.

[Just Myself]

Better question: What will happen to Pixar w/o Disney? It's got a better chance of success, I mean, Disney just sucks without Pixar.

[Artlad]

Pixar needs Disney, if god forbid one of their movies bombs its game over.

Not really I dont think. since Pixar is run by creative types, a bomb would just make them realize they had misstepped and they would move to correct it in their later films. Walt Disney himself had quite a few movies that bombed for one reason or another but it wasn't game over for Walt.

While I do want Pixar to stay with Disney I think the Pixar name alone would still draw people to see their movies. Pixar is beginning to have that quality brand recognition that Disney once enjoyed. ( and still does to a degree although its being watered down with every low quality product they turn out)
I remember when Toy Story first came out, everyone almost exclusively referred to it as a "Disney" film and hardly any mention was made of Pixar. Then slowly it became "Disney/Pixar". Now all the reviews I read for the Incredibles seem to refer to it only as a "Pixar" film with mention of Disney only being made as a distributer. So I think Pixar can survive quite well without Disney, and Disney will still be there and make money without Pixar.

[The Monkey's Uncle]

people forget, disney did just fine without pixar for 70 years!

[toonaspie]

Disney will go back to the money making maniacs they always were with or without Pixar, heh.

It's kinda sad because I cannot imagine Pixar being affiliated with any other studio than Disney. For the love of God, dont go to Dreamworks; that's all I can say, LOL.

[Luke]

I think DreamWorks is one studio that isn't interested in wooing Pixar. From what I've read, the possibilities are Disney, Sony, Fox, or Warner. That pretty much covers most of the major studios that aren't Dreamworks/Universal.

[2099net]

I think - quite simply - that if Disney can't survive without Pixar and can't product their own successful animated films then Disney don't deserve to survive.

Hopefully loosing Pixar will have put a rocket up Disney's ass, and they'll already have started in putting their own house in order, rather than having to constantly borrow cups of sugar off a friendly neighbour.

[STASHONE]

disney will attempt to fill the financial gap left by pixar in the animated feature department by taking a swing at 3d productions of which weve already seen preview. the unrivaled peerless brilliance of pixars films will be easily discernable to the mindful public and disney's ventures will ultimately be rendered a horrible failure and on the verge of a highly publicized managerial shift and without any creative resources or successful film output save for their live action division via miramax, disney will be forced to return to their 2d animated film production and a return to the glory days of traditional animation will flourish as art and ingenuity spawn success and the trend propagates throughout the industry.

yay.

[Artlad]

From the previews I've seen of Chicken Little, I think Disney may have a good opening week on this movie.Maybe even a Big Hit. the preview is really funny, the character of Chicken Little is appealing, and it seems to draw genuine interest from the audience when I've seen it in Theaters.(about four times. with different mixtures of ages in the audience, not just kids)Of course after opening week it will depend on whether or not its got the goods to back it up. (Then again there is the staggering success of Shrek 2 and Shark Tale so we can't entirely rule out the possibility of Disney making an arrangement with Satan as well.)
The downside to this is that if it IS a hit then the Disney magagement may get the insane idea that they were right all along in dumping 2-D animation and screwing Pixar. They may feel that now that theyve got this one hit in 3-D animation that they don't need Pixar anymore and will then perpetuate the same cycle of insanity that led to where we are in the first place. So on the one hand, I really want the creative people who are working hard on this movie to be successful, but on the other, i know that if it is, then the Idiot Patrol (AKA "Disney management") will take all the credit for it and it may take even longer to see the Disney we know and love return.

[deathie mouse]

It'll start a downward spiral of the company that will end with no more Disney films being made which will make humankind so unhappy so that it will usher the first link in a chain reaction that will precipitate World War III and end up with the destruction of all life in the Universe.

[DEREKG]

No more Disney! End of the world!

Makes sense!

Let's hope Disney will be just fine with or without Pixar!

[PheR]

I think it all depends of whom will be next Disney´s CEO.... if he have some good ideas and end up bringin back Pixar, both companies could be the happiest (and the best money making) alliance in film industry; and if he doesn´t get Pixar Back, maybe he can bring back the Magic that Disney lost and save Disney indeed, cuase I don´t see a shiny Disney like it was in the early nineties from the way Disney is right now.

About Pixar itself, I think like you guys, I´d like to see them working with any studio before Dreamworks. Actually, they could make great stuff with Warner or Fox. But yes, I´d rather see them with Disney

[Key]

Frankly, I'd be more worried for Disney than I would be for Pixar (who've by now have made a very good name for itself).

My heart breaks with each new quick-buck crud that Disney puts out and I find myself turning to Pixar for comfort. ): Hopefully Disney've picked up a few tips on why Pixar works have done so very well and try and re-incorporate (I say this because Disney used to have that wondrous, magical spark) them into their next projects.

[PocahontasPride]

If they go back to making classics, you know disney movies that actually have SINGING in it, they may be fine, but Pixar also helped them a lot, so while eisner is threre, its a lose situation for disney

[Ciaobelli]

I agree that it will depend much on who the next CEO is. If you-know-who is up we will probably see a few more DTV\cheapquels, but we never know. I hope its gonna be someone who will say "I think its time to change a few things" and that could be the rebirth of the House of Mouse.

So Pixar leaving could be a bad thing that sparks a good thing, lets just hope that things go that way.

[PheR]

If they go back to making classics, you know disney movies that actually have SINGING in it

That´s true, Disney MUST return to their own succesful formula, CGI or not, but the kind of films they do best and get rid of experiments and coins in the air. Movies like Little Mermaid or beauty and the beast, are always welcome, if not so overwelmingly box office succesful right now like the gag-scary movie like-parody movies of nowadays, in the end, classic movies are remembered better; but it´s clear that Disney right now gives more importance to the money making than their own reputation

[Narfle the Garthok]

I say we abolish computer animation in general. And bring back puppetry while we're at it.