"Alice In Cartoonland"

[Papa Bear]

Does any one know anything about this DVD? It says it was to be released in Febuary but I can't locate it for sale any where.

"Alice In Cartoonland"


Release Information:


Studio: Inkwell Images
Released: 02/01/2004
Region Code: none
No. of Discs 1
MSRP: $21.99
Disc Type SS-SL
Running Time: 60 minutes
Color: no
Rating: Unrated

Video/Audio:
Widescreen: no
Anamorphic: no
Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1
Audio: Dolby Digital Mono
Languages: English
Subtitles: none
Closed Caption: No
Video Norm: NTSC

Description:

Seven full shorts from the landmark series that launched the Disney Studio. These Alice Comedies have not been seen in over 40 years and offer a fascinating look at Disney's 1925-1927 efforts as a young producer, director, and storyteller.

Directed by: Walt Disney, Ray Pointer (compilation)

Features:

- Documentary segments highlight the history of the series
- Restored music tracks for each cartoon

[AwallaceUNC]

W W. If that's legit, then that's a pretty big deal. I certainly haven't heard of them being released. Can you provide a link for where you found this?

-Aaron

[Mr. Toad]

Does anyone here know how to use yahoo?

Available at inkwell images web site.

http://www.inkwellimagesink.com/pages/cartoons.htm

[AwallaceUNC]

Yes, but is it legit? And has anyone here bought it or anything from Inkwell?

-Aaron

[ValenciaJoe]

I found it on Amazon, but only as a used copy:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 76-6423035

It sounds legit.. the address given is right down the street from where I grew up (the Atwater Village suburb of Los Angeles). This is just a stone's throw away from Disney's first studio on Hyperion (which is now a Gelson's Market).

[Mr. Toad]

Well it has to be legit - the trademark on the Alice comedies was not renewed way back, so they are public domain. I have no idea what the source material is but anyone has the right to distribute them.

[STASHONE]

These are public domain films so as Jimmy said, yes they are legitamate.

Ray Pointer is the person responsible for this and all other home video releases through InkwellImages.com. He is a recognized cartoon and silent film historian with a vast knowledge into the productions of golden age studio animation as well as a veteran animator and director himself with much experience in the field. All of his home video productions are sourced from the very best available existing film prints and the quality displayed is among the finest I've had the pleasure of seeing in many years. He has done a fantastic job with the Fleischer Inkwell series and I strongly suggest that those of you who are interested in these titles show support, as this is all done as a labor of love and recently Ray has voiced plans to eventually release his entire existing video catalogue and transfer a good portion to digital form so it would be great if we could all support his ventures. Not only is he devoted to the art, but also in a position to make it accessible which is important. I believe Ray is currently in the process of working on an anthology of early George Herriman silent Krazy Kat shorts, which I am really hoping falls through!

Rest assured that you will recieve top value with these products!

[feedmelinguini]

...and don't forget to view our previous discussion.

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... highlight=

Lon

[Papa Bear]

Cool thank you all for the input!!! I think I will be getting both the "alice in Cartoonland" as well as "Before Walt" DVD's eventually when I have some extra cash they both seem very worth while.

[AwallaceUNC]

Thanks, Stashone. Hopefully these are around for a while. I would like to eventually get them, but it'll be a little down the road.

-Aaron

[Little Red Henski]

Ray Pointer has posted on another forum some info on the upcoming expanded editions of his 2 oop Disney DVDs. I'm glad I held off buying the old version of Before Walt. I'm going to have to double dip on the Alice disc though.

As for the new verison of ALICE, I am presently having to deal with family matters that will be taking up a great deal of my time. I can only say that I would like to have it out in three or four months. Although I have all of the material, I have had to wait for better weather because I intend to do some location shooting at the original sites of Disney's uncle Robert's house and the store front where the Disney Studio began. The building is still there, and functioned as the studio from 1924 until 1931, when it moved to the famous Hyperion location at the corner of Hyoperion Avenue and Griffith Park Boulevard.
2/28/05

I am also starting an expanded two part program on the ALICE COMEDIES that will focus on the role of Margaret Winkler as the mother of Walt Disney's animation career. The second part, "The Four Faces of Alice," will focus on the different girls who portrayed the character from 1923 to 1927.

Finally, watch for an expanded version of my initial entry, BEFORE WALT. This new version will include a more intensive history of animation, including recently acquired footage demonstrating early animation concepts from ancient Egypt, experiments by daVinci, Emile Reynaud and others leading up to Disney's initial efforts in Kansas City. I think that is about enought for now, don't you think?
4/21/05

[bmadigan]

And if you are interested, here is the link to Ray's website.
http://www.inkwellimagesink.com/

[ichabod]

Yes, they are legit! And I have both of them! And you can check my DVDaf link too!

I was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited when I saw these DVDs that I ordered them immediately, unfortunately despite the fact that I love Disney and love seeing the early stuff I find the Alice shorts a big let down! They are just so dull I mean it took me about 6 months to force myself through the 2 dvds. There is just no interest factor in them for me. It's nice to see a couple but more than a couple is just torture! Alhtough the shorts have been restored by Inkwell images, it's not Lowry job and there is still some grain, but all in all they are a vast improvement over what the unrestored print would look like!

If you are desperate for them, you will probably get them anyway, but I think that if you've seen the "Alice's Wonderland" short of the Alice in Wonderland DVD, that will probably be enough, that is probably the most exciting one of the lot, and you're not missing much if you don't see any of the others!

[Little Red Henski]

If you are desperate for them, you will probably get them anyway, but I think that if you've seen the "Alice's Wonderland" short of the Alice in Wonderland DVD, that will probably be enough, that is probably the most exciting one of the lot, and you're not missing much if you don't see any of the others!

The Alice pilot on the Alice in Wonderland DVD is not the most exciting Alice short. The shorts staring Virginia Davis as Alice are very good. They have a higher live action budget and remind me of Our Gang shorts. The post Virginia Alice shorts focused more on animation than live action so those are not as entertaining to me. Plus I'm trying to collect all of Walt's cartoon shorts on DVD.

[Mr. Toad]

LRH - do your comments mean Ray has returned to the animation history forum?

[Little Red Henski]

LRH - do your comments mean Ray has returned to the animation history forum?

No! I'll PM you.

[Isidour]

Wow
Animation of 80 years ago...
I don´t know what to expect of it, but hey, I can tell without being a Guru of the plot that it means like finding petrolium on your yard

[Escapay]

I was over at TheDigitalBits, and Barrie Maxwell's column mentioned a new "Alice in Cartoonland" DVD coming from VCI on February 27. So I dug up this old thread since it'd be a worthy bump.



VCI Page, SRP $19.99

Description:
Walt Disney produced 57 “Alice” cartoons between 1923 and 1927. The series owed its success to both its clever special effects – cartoon characters interacting with a live young girl cleverly superimposed within the frame – and its breezy humor. The cartoons on this DVD have remarkable clarity because they were transferred direct from 35mm nitrate negatives.

1. Alice’s Orphan - also on the Inkwell DVD
2. Alice’s Tin Pony
3. Alice in the Jungle - also on the Disney Rarities and Inkwell DVD
4. Alice’s Balloon Race
5. Alice Chops the Suey
6. Alice the Whaler - also on the Disney Raritites and Inkwell DVD
7. Alice Rattled by Rats - also on the Inkwell DVD
8. Alice’s Egg Plant - also on the Disney Rarities and Inkwell DVD
9. Alice the Jail Bird
10. Alice Solves the Puzzle - also on the Inkwell DVD

11. North of Nowhere (Life Cartoon Comedy)
12. Hitting the Trail (Life Cartoon Comedy)
13. Whales Everywhere (Life Cartoon Comedy)

Bonus:
Extra Features:
1. “Alice in Hollywood” by JB Kaufman, co-author, with Russell Merritt, of “Walt in Wonderland: The Silent Films of Walt Disney"

2. Three cartoons from the seldom seen “Life Cartoon Comedy” series, re-titled “Krazy Kid Cartoons” for their 1930 sound reissue.

3. Synopsis of each of the cartoons on the DVD with a click to play feature.

It's also available on Amazon for pre-order at $17.99, and the link here supports UD!

And since the InkwellImagesInk link originally provided doesn't work, here's their homepage for their Disney materials:

The Walt Disney Collection


The Legendary LAUGH-O-GRAMS Fairy Tales:
-Little Red Riding Hood (1922)
-The Four Musicians Of Bremen (1922)
-Puss In Boots (1922)
-Cinderella (1922) - also available on the Cinderella: Platinum Edition
-Disney's first educational film, Tommy Tucker’s Tooth (1922).
-Rare interview with Rudy Ising reflecting on his experiences with Walt Disney at the start of his career.

Before Walt:
-Humorous Phases Of Funny Faces (Blackton 1906)
-Fantasmagorie (Cohl 1907)
-Little Nemo (McCay 1911)
-Us Fellers: Dud Leaves Home (Carlson 1919)
-The Circus (Fleischer 1920)
-Barnyard Olympics (Terry 1924)
-Felix All Puzzled (Sullivan/Messmer 1924)
-Newman's Laugh-O-Grams (Disney 1921)
-Puss In Boots (Disney 1922)
-Alice Solves The Puzzle (Disney 1925) - also available on the VCI DVD

Alice in Cartoonland: (currently unavailable, new "expanded edition" coming soon)
-Alice The Toreador (1925)
-Alice's Egg Plant (1925) - also available on the Disney Rarities and VCI DVD
-Alice Rattled By Rats (1925) - also available on the VCI DVD
-Alice In The Jungle (1925) - also available on the Disney Rarities and VCI DVD
-Alice On The Farm (1926)
-Alice's Orphan (1926) - also available on the VCI DVD
-Alice The Whaler (1927) - also available on the Disney Rarities and VCI

ETA:

Thanks to MK Sharp, there's another DVD with Alice Comedies. The Japanese "I Love Cartoon" DVD series has a volume with Alice Comedies, Laugh-O-Grams, Oswald cartoons, and Aesop Fables.



From the seven Alice cartoons, "Alice's Little Parade" has yet to be released in R1.

- Alice's Little Parade (1926)
- Alice on the Farm (1926)
- Alice in the Jungle (1925)
- Alice Rattled by Rats (1925)
- Alice the Jail Bird (1925)
- Alice Chops the Suey (1925)
- Alice Solves the Puzzle (1925)

These are the rest of the cartoons on the disc:
- Puss in boots (1922)
- Oh, Teacher (1927)
- Ocean Hop, The (1927)
- Makin' Em Move (1931)
- College Capers (1931)
- Fisherman's Luck (1931)
- Noah Knew His Ark (1930)
- Sky Skippers (1930)
- Fly Guy, The (1931)
- Red Riding Hood (1931)
- Circus Capers (1930)
- Singing Saps (1930)
- Pickaninny Blues (1932)
- Ship Ahoy (1930)
- Fly Hi (1931)
- Fresh Ham (1933)
- Cowboy Blues (1931)
- Haunted Ship, The (1930)
- Golden Goose (1935)
- Three Little Kittens (1935)
- Goofy Goat Antics (1933)
+ Giant Killer, The (1924)

So now, we know of 17 cartoons of the 57 Alice Comedies that are available on DVD (witih one not an R1 release). And interesting to note is that "Alice in the Jungle" is available on all the DVDs.

1923:
Alice's Wonderland - Disney Rarities (complete version, 12 minutes)
Alice's Wonderland - Alice in Wonderland: Masterpiece Edition (incomplete version, 8 minutes)

1924:
Alice's Wild West Show - Disney Rarities
Alice Gets in Dutch - Disney Rarities

1925:
Alice the Toreador - Inkwell
Alice Solves the Puzzle - VCI, Inkwell, I Love Cartoon
Alice's Egg Plant - Disney Rarities, VCI, Inkwell
Alice’s Tin Pony - VCI
Alice Chops the Suey - VCI, I Love Cartoon
Alice the Jail Bird - VCI, I Love Cartoon
Alice Rattled by Rats - VCI, Inkwell, I Love Cartoon
Alice in the Jungle - Disney Rarities, VCI, Inkwell, I Love Cartoon

1926:
Alice on the Farm - Inkwell, I Love Cartoon
Alice’s Orphan - VCI, Inkwell
Alice's Balloon Race - VCI
Alice's Little Parade - I Love Cartoon
Alice's Mysterious Mystery - Disney Rarities

1927:
Alice the Whaler - Disney Rarities, VCI, Inkwell

Escapay

[Mr. Toad]

I kept meaning to post the Legendary Laugh O Gram news here. I know Ray put incredible amounts of efforts into restoring them as best he could. Ray is also working on a revised version of Alice in Cartoonland with way more cartoons and way better restoration now that smaller players can do a better job of restoring. He has 5 of the 7 laughograms(six still exist but he could not get access to the last one in a museum)

[Douglas Fir]

Hmmmm... I wonder if Disney will be doing any Laugh-O-Gram or Alice Comedy DVDs as part of their new Legacy line?