French Brother Bear DVD

[KinOO]

Brother BEar will be available in august in France, two editions:

Standard editions:

same as UK

and a PRESTIGE edition with a very beautiful packaging as only buena vista France can do:

it will feature the DVD, an audio CD 4 tracks, and a CD ROM.

the standard is announced for august 25th
whereas the prestige is announced for august 4th! ??

[KinOO]

oh and moreover, the THREE MOUSKETEERS is announced for august 4th too.

[PatrickvD]

All I can say is WOW.... that one is beautiful, but then I've heard Brother Bear was highly succesful in France. great disc!

[Joe Carioca]

Yeah, it is beautyful indeed, but still, the prestige edition will only have the same 1-disc edition with the wrong aspect ratio of the movie and less the making of featurette. I don't know how "special" this edition can be (I would buy it for the packaging, though ).

[Jordan]

Yeah, it is beautyful indeed, but still, the prestige edition will only have the same 1-disc edition with the wrong aspect ratio of the movie and less the making of featurette. I don't know how "special" this edition can be (I would buy it for the packaging, though ).

Wrong !
The french sets will feature the movie in its ORIGINAL aspect ratios (contrary to the UK set) and ALL the bonus features of the Region 1 set (just as te UK edition). Plus, a French DTS soundtrack, just as always on the Disney DVDs here.

availabe on August 25th.

[2099net]

I can understand it having the correct, shifting AR, but I think that it's a bit much to ask for all the supplemental content from the US 2 disc set to be on a single disc. Does it really have DTS too? I'm sure the quality of the film's presentation will suffer.

The UK disc- despite some of Disney's (typically crap) early PR and Disney's own DVD shop listing it - misses the "making of" documentary.

[Disney83]

In France you have buena vista France that knows how to work very well
it'a a very serious company!!!!!!
Here in Italy buena vista Italy do not know how to make beautiful dvd!!!
All dvds are full of errors and very simple!!!!!!!!
you are a very lucky people!!!!!

[Jordan]

I can understand it having the correct, shifting AR, but I think that it's a bit much to ask for all the supplemental content from the US 2 disc set to be on a single disc. Does it really have DTS too? I'm sure the quality of the film's presentation will suffer.

The UK disc- despite some of Disney's (typically crap) early PR and Disney's own DVD shop listing it - misses the "making of" documentary.

Didn't count them but maybe a featurette is missing indeed... :

- Les commentaires audio
- Les 3 scènes coupées : " Où est Koda ? ", " Confession ", " Muri l'écureuil "
- Les véritables contes et légendes indiennes : " Histoires d'ours "
- Les jeux de Frère des Ours : Le jeu des squelettes, Découvre ton totem avec l'aide de Nanaka
- L'art du bruitage appliqué au film Frère des Ours : " Comment faire du bruit ? "
- Le clip vidéo de la chanson : " Look through my eyes "
- La chanson inédite de Phil Collins : " Fishing song "
- La première version avec les paroles originales de Phil Collins : " Transformation "
- Les galeries d'esquisses et de peintures animées commentées par les artistes
- Le bêtisier de Koda

Plus, DTS and aspect ratio 1.85.
Doesn't speculate if the 2 ratios are included but I guess they will if one of them is and it'w written "original aspect ratio" so...

[Joe Carioca]

So it seems you're getting the same version released internationally. The original aspect ratio is 2.35:1 and the making of is 45-minutes long, so no chances it will fit on one disc.
A pity, because the packaging is so carefully done.

[MickeyMouseboy]

The package is nicely done but the content seems like fluff. a 3 track cd? why not the whole soundtrack? a cd-rom? how about more features? I'm happy I have the R1 as it has more content, I can live without the package!

[KinOO]

French Mousketeers DVDS

[Jordan]

So it seems you're getting the same version released internationally. The original aspect ratio is 2.35:1 and the making of is 45-minutes long, so no chances it will fit on one disc.
A pity, because the packaging is so carefully done.

There were TWO original aspect ratios : first in 1:85 and then 2:35 and the source talks about aspect ratios in plural so... we'll see

[nono]

[deathie mouse]

Which DVD has the Brother Bear trailer? I seem to recall seeing one that was like Beauty and the Beast's Work in Progress and if I recall correctly it looked to me as if they were "letterboxing" the 2.39* image from within the 1.85, the opposite of pan/scaning the 1.85 from the 2.39. (I remember cus I thought "In what ratio is this gonna be in theaters? In Panavision?" as i saw Panavision-like frame lines on the regular widescreen art.) (But in could be totally wrong.) So i would like to see that trailer again but I can't seem to locate it in my collection at the moment.

If i'm right, could the 1.85 discs be kind of open-matted Panavision, just like 4:3 disc of Super-35 movies are?


If they are, the 1.85 version is not so bad, cus it just shows more top and bottom and apart from wasted bit rate, a 16:9 2.39 disc wouldn't be that much different from a cardboarded-down-to-2.39 16:9 1.85 disc..

(if anyone reading this thinks i'm talking crazy you can read some things others and me wrote about open-matte in

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... php?t=3994

and

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... php?t=4061


*2.39 is the correct ratio for films projected from Panavision/anamorphic lense prints since 1994 or thereabouts.

2.35 was "discontinued" around 1971

[deathie mouse]

I forgot to do the obvious thing and check first ultimatedisney's review

So the R1 disc has an alternate 1.66 pan scanned version.

But R2 is gonna get a 1.85?

So, why do i still think that I saw Panavision frame lines marking where to crop to 2.39 inside an 1.85 frame of uncompleted animation?

*note to self: Must stop watching animated RGB images soo much

[2099net]

BVHEUK list Lilo and Stitch as 1.85:1 in all publicity and even on the case, but it's still 1.66:1. I wouldn't take the publicity for the French Brother Bear release that seriously, until somebody actually has seen the disc.