http://www.savedisney.com/news/features/fe051404.1.asp
The link asks "when did things go wrong? You be the judge" I thought it would be interesting to share. I've been trying to convince the SaveDisney site to start a forum or a chat room or something but I guess they wanna keep things simple
The timeline begins at Walt's death all the way up to yesterday or whatever
cool SaveDisney timeline
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There are at least three major bad turning points.
1) Death of the original Disneys.
2) Appointment of Ron Miller as President
3) Death of Frank Wells.
#1 brought on a slow decline, until #2 which was more of a train wreck that put Disney into the toilet and brought about Eisner and Wells which was good for about a decade, but the last decade has been slow decent again. I guess we need another train wreck to bring about good change again.
1) Death of the original Disneys.
2) Appointment of Ron Miller as President
3) Death of Frank Wells.
#1 brought on a slow decline, until #2 which was more of a train wreck that put Disney into the toilet and brought about Eisner and Wells which was good for about a decade, but the last decade has been slow decent again. I guess we need another train wreck to bring about good change again.
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I think we're seeing that train wreck right now. We're kind of in the rubber-necking stage.
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Taking into account that things with Eisner WERE going well until the mid 1990s, I think we should appreciate the fact or assume the fact that Frank Wells was the man who kept Eisner on a leash. With his death, Eisner was free to wreak havocJimmyJackJunior wrote:There are at least three major bad turning points.
1) Death of the original Disneys.
2) Appointment of Ron Miller as President
3) Death of Frank Wells.
#1 brought on a slow decline, until #2 which was more of a train wreck that put Disney into the toilet and brought about Eisner and Wells which was good for about a decade, but the last decade has been slow decent again. I guess we need another train wreck to bring about good change again.
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Here's the sad and great events that I pick.
I feel really sad about the death of Walt Disney the most cause he was the man who bought creativity and imagination to Disneyland for millions of people.
Source: http://www.savedisney.com/news/features/fe051404.1.asp
Thanks for the great timeline toonaspie.
Sad events on the Timeline
Dec 15, 1966 - Walter Elias Disney dies of cancer
Dec 20, 1971 - Roy O. Disney dies
1986 - Disneyland's Adventure Thru Inner Space closed
1986 - Last time Song of the South was released in theatres in North America
1986 - Studio releases its first R rated film (Down and Out in Beverly Hills)
May 1990 - Jim Henson dies, Muppets deal falls through
Mar 1991 - Howard Ashman, lyricist, co-producer of Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin dies1991 - Slesinger family files suit over Winnie the Pooh video sales
1995 - Disneyland PeopleMover closed1996 - Disneyland's Main Street Electrical Parade "Glows Away Forever", resulting in capacity crowds
Sept 1998 - Disneyland Submarine Voyage closed with no replacement
Sept 2000 - Disneyland Rocket Rods closed after only 2 years of operation
Sept 2001 - Disneyland Country Bear Show closed, even as movie version was in production
Sept 2002 - Disney Channel cancels Vault Disney (last remains of Walt Disney's shows)
Jan 29 - Pixar breaks off talks with Disney regarding partnership
Apr 2 - Last hand drawn animated feature released, Home on the Range
Great events on the Timeline
1980 - Walt Disney Home Video launched
1980 - First animated classic released on video for rental, Dumbo
1982 - TRON, first CGI feature released
1983 - Disney Channel launched
1985 - Pinocchio released on home video (sell-through video program launched)
1989 - The Little Mermaid released, returning Disney to its roots
1987 - Duck Tales, the Movie released, first feature from TV Animation
1987 - Disney Stores Launched
1991 - Beauty and the Beast nominated for Best Picture Oscar
May 1994 - The Return of Jafar, first low-budget sequel from TV Animation
June 1994 - The Lion King released, top grossing animation feature ever
Nov 1995 - Toy Story released, first Pixar film
1996 - Purchase Anaheim Angels Baseball Franchise
1997 - Disneyland's $30m Light Magic replaces Electrical Parade, closes first summer of operation
Apr 1998 - Toon Disney launched
P.S. Who have been on the Disneyland Rocket Rods?
I never been on them.
I feel really sad about the death of Walt Disney the most cause he was the man who bought creativity and imagination to Disneyland for millions of people.
Source: http://www.savedisney.com/news/features/fe051404.1.asp
Thanks for the great timeline toonaspie.
Sad events on the Timeline
Dec 15, 1966 - Walter Elias Disney dies of cancer
Dec 20, 1971 - Roy O. Disney dies
1986 - Disneyland's Adventure Thru Inner Space closed
1986 - Last time Song of the South was released in theatres in North America
1986 - Studio releases its first R rated film (Down and Out in Beverly Hills)
May 1990 - Jim Henson dies, Muppets deal falls through
Mar 1991 - Howard Ashman, lyricist, co-producer of Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin dies1991 - Slesinger family files suit over Winnie the Pooh video sales
1995 - Disneyland PeopleMover closed1996 - Disneyland's Main Street Electrical Parade "Glows Away Forever", resulting in capacity crowds
Sept 1998 - Disneyland Submarine Voyage closed with no replacement
Sept 2000 - Disneyland Rocket Rods closed after only 2 years of operation
Sept 2001 - Disneyland Country Bear Show closed, even as movie version was in production
Sept 2002 - Disney Channel cancels Vault Disney (last remains of Walt Disney's shows)
Jan 29 - Pixar breaks off talks with Disney regarding partnership
Apr 2 - Last hand drawn animated feature released, Home on the Range
Great events on the Timeline
1980 - Walt Disney Home Video launched
1980 - First animated classic released on video for rental, Dumbo
1982 - TRON, first CGI feature released
1983 - Disney Channel launched
1985 - Pinocchio released on home video (sell-through video program launched)
1989 - The Little Mermaid released, returning Disney to its roots
1987 - Duck Tales, the Movie released, first feature from TV Animation
1987 - Disney Stores Launched
1991 - Beauty and the Beast nominated for Best Picture Oscar
May 1994 - The Return of Jafar, first low-budget sequel from TV Animation
June 1994 - The Lion King released, top grossing animation feature ever
Nov 1995 - Toy Story released, first Pixar film
1996 - Purchase Anaheim Angels Baseball Franchise
1997 - Disneyland's $30m Light Magic replaces Electrical Parade, closes first summer of operation
Apr 1998 - Toon Disney launched
P.S. Who have been on the Disneyland Rocket Rods?
I never been on them.
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MMP, I almost entirely agree with the way you sorted them, with 2 exceptions:
-I would have put the Light Parade replacing MEP and then closing in the sad list
-While I like Return of Jafar a lot, I'm not so crazy about the trend it spawned, so I'd have to put it in an in-between list.
-Aaron
-I would have put the Light Parade replacing MEP and then closing in the sad list
-While I like Return of Jafar a lot, I'm not so crazy about the trend it spawned, so I'd have to put it in an in-between list.
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Excellent point, karlsen. No matter how good the "Roy" is now, without the "Walt" he can't be majorly successful.karlsen wrote:It's the same with Roy and Walt. When Walt died and Roy took over it all whent down hill.
You need both a "Roy" and a "Walt". Eisner is a great "Roy" but the company does not have any "Walt's" now, sadly.