What does he say? That it will be a mediocre film, filled with current popular culture references which will age badly over the next five years and will consist of a soundtrack of overused pop songs and dreadful cover versions of well regarded classics - both in a pointless attempt to sound 'cool'?
Counting Down explains that "the film begins with pages from a fairytale book (a la Shrek), showing how the magical world was upset by Shrek taking the place of Prince Charming by marrying Princess Fiona. It turns out Prince Charming is the son of none other than the Fairy Godmother, who has not given up hope for a Happily Ever After for her darling impossibly handsome child. After a raucous honeymoon, including a spoof of the famous Here to Eternity beach scene where a mermaid tries to steal Shrek from Fiona, Shrek is taken to meet Fiona's parents. The only problem is, Fiona's parents (the King and Queen of Far Far Away Land) are expecting Princess Fiona and Prince Charming, rather than the two ogres that alight from the pumpkin carriage to greet them on the red carpet." The sequel takes place in "Far Far Away, a fantastic fairytale spin on Beverly Hills: instead of the Hollywood Sign, "Far Far Away" graces the nearby hills; various fairytale characters own large estates, including Rapunzel and Jack (the Beanstalk rises up from behind his gates). Far Far Away even sports its own Gap clothing store and stretch carriage limousines. When the King tries to have Shrek killed in favor of Prince Charming, the fun starts. The King employs the services of Puss 'n' Boots, who, despite his best efforts, fails miserably and joins Shrek on his quest for Fiona. After drinking a "Happily Ever After" potion to try and win back his wife, Shrek (and Donkey) are transformed into beautiful versions of themselves, which causes all sorts of mistaken identities; arrests; and an appearance by Shrek and Donkey on the Fairytale version of Cops: Knights. The episode of Knights is seen by Pinocchio, Gingerbread Man and the Three Little Pigs on television (the magic mirror) as they house-sit Shrek's swamp abode. Deciding to rescue Shrek and Donkey, the film moves into high gear as the Fairytale group resort to a ridiculously entertaining way to save them and storm the castle. All I'll say is that it involves a Ghostbusters homage that will have you laughing in the aisle. I only saw a fraction of it and I'm still giggling."
Let's see - popular culture references to Ghostbusters, Cops, Here to Eternity, Beverly Hills in general, Gap Clothing...
Looks like the sequel will be just as empty and easily dated as the original film. No way will this have the shelf-life of Disney's animated films. That said, I'm not surprised.
We'll see how Shrek and Shrek II stands up in 10 years time. My guess is unlike Snow White, Pinocchio et al, it will appear badly dated.
2099net wrote:
We'll see how Shrek and Shrek II stands up in 10 years time. My guess is unlike Snow White, Pinocchio et al, it will appear badly dated.
Very true...but I admit that I did enjoy the first one and will definitely give the 2nd one a chance.
Shrek 2 may be released on May 21--Not Memorial Day
From Animated-movies.net:
Several websites have been reporting that the Shrek sequel would open on Memorial Day weekend next year. The anticipated feature will debut on May 21, 2004 and Memorial Day falls on Monday May 31, 2004
Dreamworks had and still has the potential to **** up animation by building animated movies around big celebrities instead of strong storylines and characters.. and that's all Dreamworks has ever been doing since Shrek. Worse yet, it's spreading to other studios. Every time I see a commercial for an animated film that says "FORGET ABOUT THE ACTUAL CARTOON, LOOK AT THE CELEBRITIES WE HAVE!!!! THERE THEY ARE IN THE STUDIO OH MY GOD WTF!!!", it makes me cry for the state of the industry.
It doesn't help that Shrek was itself a horrible movie. UGLY designs with bad (visual) acting that clash with the photorealistic backgrounds, the worst human character models I've seen in several years, a poorly-structured storyline that only exists to tell lots of (bad) jokes and show bare-bones references to fairy tale/Disney characters, and the most aggravatingly obnoxious character in animation history, voiced by the most aggravatingly obnoxious actor in motion picture history.
I know you're going to say, Shrek wasn't meant to be a traditional animated film. Well, DUH. And yet Shrek still TRIED to follow traditional storytelling, only it failed. And it couldn't tell a funny joke, so it fails as a comedy (the only people that laugh at Shrek are the VERY easily amused).
It's a disgrace. An utter disgrace. I do not understand how ANYONE could enjoy the film and not be insane. YES, I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD "SUBJECTIVE." But I am HONEST in my incomprehension. If someone told you they thought Pluto Nash was the best movie ever, are you really going to respect that opinion? If you do, you have an ASTOUNDING amount of patience.
Shrek is on my top 10 list of the worst cartoons of all-time. It obviously is better than movies like Titan AE or The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2, but compared to the big-name movies, the blockbusters, it is the worst. The worst the worst the worst.. oh god, do I hate it.
Dacp wrote:
I will quote here what Matt Wilson said at the ToonZone forums ( http://forums.toonzone.net/ ) :
It doesn't help that Shrek was itself a horrible movie. UGLY designs with bad (visual) acting that clash with the photorealistic backgrounds ... and the most aggravatingly obnoxious character in animation history, voiced by the most aggravatingly obnoxious actor in motion picture history.
... And it couldn't tell a funny joke, so it fails as a comedy (the only people that laugh at Shrek are the VERY easily amused).
... It's a disgrace. An utter disgrace. I do not understand how ANYONE could enjoy the film and not be insane. .
Shrek is on my top 10 list of the worst cartoons of all-time. It obviously is better than movies like Titan AE or The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2, but compared to the big-name movies, the blockbusters, it is the worst. The worst the worst the worst.. oh god, do I hate it.
I have a real problem with people like this taking a holier-than-thou attitude when it comes to films. I don't care of this guy is an expert or not, he neds to really lighten up. Great idea to insult people if they don't see things the same way you do
Was Shrek an animated classic ... no. But I thougt it was an entertaining movie with some fantastic visuals and an all-around good effrot from Dreamworks. I guess that makes me insane and/or easily amused according to Mr. Wilson ... but I guarantee you I'm not as uptight or bitter as he is either. Lighten up and enjoy life once in awhile and stop looking for materpieces in every animated film.
My little girl LOVED Shrek, and you know what...that's all that matters to me.
I agree that both the visuals and storyline in Shrek left a lot to be desired but worst acotrs in modern cinema?? C'mon... I can only assume he was referencing Eddie Murphy and Mike Myers... worst actors in modern cinema? I guess if you want to overlook the fact that these 2 men are verteran comedians who distinctively helped innovate the face of modern comedy in the 1980's during their Saturday Night Live stints and single-handedly produced classic comedy films like Wayne's World and Coming To America, etc... That was just a stupid remark, though I will agree with his views on the rest of the movie. The focus attraction is definitely directed and exagerated on the big budget voice actors and overall marketing ploy as opposed to a genuine substance driven animated feature. I didnt like Shrek at all, my little sisters did though so I cant be overcritical of the movie as not all animated features are driven to appeal to everyone. Some movies are simply, kid's films. Disney has always been one to raise that bar however and produce classics which both children and adult alike are able to enjoy, I wasnt able to find that factor in Shrek. I didnt liek it at all.
Well, I'm no fan of Shrek. I think it is telling that the previous quote from Counting Down says more about cheap parodies then it does about the characters. It just seems that small Counting Down quote is a microcosm for what was wrong with the original Shrek - too much parody and not enough substance (all of course in my opinion).
But the critical quote above is going a little too far with his rant against Shrek. I can sort of understand his point-of-view - I'm just as annoyed that Shrek seems to be stealing all the attention away from more worthy films. However, I would never think of typing anything like the rant above.
But that's life. Box office performance has vary rarely equated actual film quality. I think Dreamwork's best animated film to date was Antz, which I do think should have done more box office (I also think the ants themselves could have done with a redesign to make them more appealing. Perhaps if they had it would have done more box office)
My actual opinions are not as extreme as the writer of the quote, but I do agree with him on a lot of points. Shrek is not timeless. If a movie cannot stand the test of time, it will be worthless in years to come.