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Following the news that both Pocahontas and Chip ‘n’ Dale will be made into live-action features, we’re now hearing that Disney is also planning to give Treasure Planet the same treatment. As with some of these other projects that we’ve reported on, it’s only in the very early stages of development, but it’s said to be on their list of films that they’re hoping to remake at some point in the near future.

The choice is an interesting one, too, considering that the 2002 animated movie was a total box office bomb. Although critics praised it, audiences were decidedly less enthusiastic. The flick only netted $38 million in the United States against a $140 million budget. Despite being a financial flop though, the film still earned a nomination for Best Animated Feature at the Academy Awards. Disney is likely under the impression then that the property can find a wider audience this time around. They’ll likely assemble a cast that’s just as impressive as the original, too, if not more so.
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If this is from the same source as Pocahontas, I guess this is just a baseless rumor as well.

I've always felt though that this film was before its time and would have been better appreciated in later years, especially after the popularity of the steampunk genre. I think Tom Holland would be a better choice for Jim here than Milo actually.
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Of all the movies they could turn into live action, I think this would be a weird choice. Personally I think the trailer was responsible for the flop. You had the young rebel cliché, skateboards and everything else that made the impression that Disney tried a little too hard to make the movie look hip and cool, especially the scene when he closes his eyes and falls down from great height to show us that he is living on the edge (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMHpiVDEXY). The movie itself was actually a lot better than that once he enters the ship, even if I didn't see the point with the facial mole.
(Some also felt there was too much CGI, but that won't matter in live action)

If they had done the first part of the movie a little different, and made a better trailer, it would probably have done a lot better. Just my theory. Should they ever actually do a remake, get rid of the bad boy attitude in the intro.
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Rumpelstiltskin wrote:Of all the movies they could turn into live action, I think this would be a weird choice. Personally I think the trailer was responsible for the flop. You had the young rebel cliché, skateboards and everything else that made the impression that Disney tried a little too hard to make the movie look hip and cool, especially the scene when he closes his eyes and falls down from great height to show us that he is living on the edge (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMHpiVDEXY). The movie itself was actually a lot better than that once he enters the ship, even if I didn't see the point with the facial mole.
(Some also felt there was too much CGI, but that won't matter in live action)

If they had done the first part of the movie a little different, and made a better trailer, it would probably have done a lot better. Just my theory. Should they ever actually do a remake, get rid of the bad boy attitude in the intro.
If I'm correct, they were trying to evoke James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause.
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In my opinion, that was a huge mistake. Like I said, teenagers may have felt Disney was trying too hard to speak their language, and many parents probably didn't felt like it was the kind of movie they wanted to see with their kids.
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The initial trailer was great, the reason I didn't bother seeing it was...I guess there was virtually no other meaningful marketing after that.
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Rumpelstiltskin wrote:In my opinion, that was a huge mistake. Like I said, teenagers may have felt Disney was trying too hard to speak their language, and many parents probably didn't felt like it was the kind of movie they wanted to see with their kids.
I was just a child when this film came out and I can agree that there was no appealing element for kids from the marketing. I used to watch new Disney films religiously in theaters but this and Home on the Range were the only DACs I skipped.
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The only add I saw for it was maybe a poster at McDonalds or the theater or Blockbuster...Just not very heavy promotion in comparison to stuff like toys in cereal, trailers in TV, etc etc...

In comparison Peter Pan 2 had more merchandise.
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I would love if this actually happened. Like I said in the other thread, this and Atlantis may not be confirmed, but I can definitely believe Disney is looking at films they could re-make as multiple-film franchises. I’m sure both Aladdin and TLK will birth live-action trilogies.

The problem is the same as I speculated in the Atlantis thread, that science fiction films don’t seem very popular considering both of these flopped back then and so did Disney's attempt at bringing TRON back to life. I would love if they re-made this and it somehow managed to be a hit. I hate that the animated film actually had a TV series and sequel planned only for both to get slashed. It’s one of the few Disney films I actually would’ve liked to have seen more of back when they were in their cheap DTV phase. And a part of me would love if M&C's one animated film that wasn't a hit (whether modest or large) ended up becoming one in live-action form. If something like that were to happen, I imagine it would give the animated film new life, too, in the same way that some older films became bigger over the years than in their first release. I've always seen the re-makes as--aside from easy cash--a way for Disney to re-invigorate interest in their properties...
Rumpelstiltskin wrote:Of all the movies they could turn into live action, I think this would be a weird choice. Personally I think the trailer was responsible for the flop. You had the young rebel cliché, skateboards and everything else that made the impression that Disney tried a little too hard to make the movie look hip and cool, especially the scene when he closes his eyes and falls down from great height to show us that he is living on the edge (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAMHpiVDEXY).
I think the ads on TV are what killed it. Even I--someone who ended up loving (parts of) the movie when I finally saw it--thought it looked stupid. My memory of the time it was released was that all the commercials seemed to feature the flatulent alien. The whole thing just came across gross-looking, about like how a lot of Dreamworks movies were. Sort of like how Tangled was advertised almost as if it was Flynn's movie, with all the music and story with Rapunzel / Gothel hidden. They might as well just have a sign that says "Girls Not Wanted." In the '00s, I still watched the new Disney films when they came out on VHS even though I was embarrassed being a teenager and because most people hated Disney at the time. TENG and TP both surprised me when I finally saw them, because they looked soooo bad.
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Q: I know they won't do one, but what are your thoughts on a live-action Treasure Planet?

The DisInsider: I think the chances they do it are greater than many expect.
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Is there any more news about Treasure Planet?

The DisInsider: If you are talking about that bogus rumor...then no.
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At least this time, people would know what to expect.
Disney's Divinity wrote:My memory of the time it was released was that all the commercials seemed to feature the flatulent alien. The whole thing just came across gross-looking, about like how a lot of Dreamworks movies were.
That alien deserves its own spin-off. Either way, I just read that the marketing costs for the movie were huge. And these trailers was all they could do?

One of the things Disney could have done, was to make clear that this had been a passion project for Musker and Clements since the mid 80s before the studio finally decided to give it a chance, and how hard they worked to make the movie. They were devastated when it flopped.
People in general had no idea about its backstory, and it wouldn't surprise me if many assumed that it was just another attempt from Disney to profit on a classic.

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https://www.mouseplanet.com/12446/The_S ... __Part_Two
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Yeah the marketing for this film did not work at all. As a diehard Disney fan who used to watch pretty much anything with the Disney label, this film and Home on the Range were the only two I skipped in theaters. And that's despite the fact that every other commercial on the Disney Chanel back then was promoting this film.
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That plot outline revealed a few details I didn't really know before, like the fact Montressor is a mining planet. I wish we'd seen a flashback (either at the beginning or in "I'm Still Here") of Jim's mother turning their home into an inn after the father abandoned them, and of Jim helping her run the place. In the film, we only see the rebellious teenager that came later and the child, without everything inbetween.

Wow, I didn’t know Katzenberg hated Clements’ proposal for The Little Mermaid! I thought everybody was excited about it and that’s why it was chosen. Hmm. Maybe that’s why Shrek 2 has that bit specifically mocking Ariel. Anyway, I can understand why he would be opposed to making a project with another mermaid after Splash, but why would he want to shy away from fairy tales in general? It’s not like they’d made one recently at that time. As for his thoughts about Treasure Island in Space, one of those reasons for not liking the idea (the boy not having a love interest) is so stupid.

I can't believe they ever even thought of making Morph in 3D. Thank God that didn’t happen. I can’t remember right off if Jim ever learns in the film that Scroop was responsible for Arrow’s death or not. I didn’t know Amelia was the reason Jim got into the Interstellar Academy; I wish he and Amelia had more interaction in the film in that case. I SO SO wish Doppler and Amelia were still human in the finished film the way they had been planned to be. I never liked their designs, Doppler’s especially. I can definitely see James Dean in Jim, and the similarities between Jane and Amelia thanks to them having the same animator. The article points out something I’ve always felt about how the DTV sequels and other releases were detrimental because they trained audiences to think of hand-drawn animation as something not to be seen theatrically. It’s true that TP (and then later TP&TF) were M&C films that were the ‘end’ of hand-drawn animation that bookends their TLM which had rejuvenated the medium. :( I didn’t know that they weren’t given anything after TP until Lasseter came aboard.

:lol: @ Doppler being the mother of the babies. Even though they cut the line, I’ll always consider him an example of mpreg now. :lol:

The Treasure Planet poster is still one of my favorite Disney posters; the commercials for the film back then were awful, but that poster is epic and inspiring. I always liked the logo for this film, too.
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Perhaps they were afraid that some details about the mining operations would remind the audience too much about Titan A.E. (I had actually no idea that movie was a flop before relative recently). But they could still have included a little more about Jim's background, and used it in the trailer. (We have seen the same rebel numerous times; Tucker in Titan A.E., Chris Pine as Kirk in the first Star Trek movie, and Taylor Kitsch as Hopper in Battleship, and so on.)

Katzenberg could be difficult. It still annoys me that The Black Cauldron will always miss some footage because of him. As for Morph as CGI, it could be that he would have looked too much like the green thing in Flubber if they did it.

I never really paid any attention to the Doppler and Amelia designs, but her facial mole annoyed me a bit. In animation, I don't see the point in adding moles and warts unless the plot demands it, like the witch in Snow White.

The problem with the direct to video movies was that the quality was often inferior to that of their theatrical siblings. Sometimes such a movie would be released also theatrically. So when I saw that the theatre would show the Peter Pan sequel, I expected something like the original. It is hard to put the finger on it, but I could tell right away that there was something about the animation that didn't feel right. The animators probably did as best they could. There was just something that made it feel more like a TV-movie than a theatrical feature.
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