Does Disney Hate Wreck It Ralph and Big Hero 6?

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Does Disney Hate Wreck It Ralph and Big Hero 6?

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Because despite that both films received critical acclaim and made a decent amount of money at the box office; both films get overshadowed by Tangled and especially Frozen. I have nothing against Tangled or Frozen but Disney seems to have this thing that "Only fairy tales represent Disney Animation." Not true because Disney often broke their own formula with great success. 101 Dalmatians was Disney's first contemporary film and was not a musical but yet it was a hit. The film to this day is regarded as a classic. But again, not a "Traditional Disney Fairy Tale." The Rescuers was a huge success when it was first released. It has been forgotten because of the nude photo controversy that Disney seems to feel guilty about (ahem GET OVER IT!). Again, another film that broke the Disney formula. Lilo & Stitch, a film that has "breaking Disney formula" written all over it, developed into a Disney franchise that was quite prominent before the Tiana/Rapunzel/Frozen era. Then comes Wreck It Ralph and Big Hero 6. Disney did struggle making contemporary CG animated films with Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons and Bolt. All did not make the box office or cultural impact that Disney hoped for. But Wreck It Ralph and Big Hero 6 changed that. So if these two films are successful, why do they get ignored by Disney?
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Pretty much the "princess" factor.

Just yesterday, I saw a TV commercial for a Little Mermaid toy, neverminding that film came out 26 years ago. The only time I see some non-princess movies advertised are at a few specialty stores at the mall.
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Semaj wrote:Pretty much the "princess" factor.
Basically this. Disney does not see the point in promoting any films outside of their Princess films or Frozen. Which is a pity, because they could use Big Hero 6 to cater to the superhero demographic alongside the Marvel heroes. In fact the Big Hero 6 characters are probably more suitable for younger children anyway. Wreck-It Ralph could be used to promote video games and have its own lineup of characters. Just because the princesses and Frozen are both billion dollar franchises, doesn't mean everything else has to be as well.
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Unfortunately, they're right: Disney's motto is "If it's not princess, it doesn't exist" :down: And it's sad. Disney complains that there's little boys merch (minus Star Wars), but here they are: AN ANIMATED SUPERHERO FLICK & A VIDEO GAME MOVIE, which both did great at the box office. Not to mention, one is an Academy Award winner and the other wrongfully lost to Pixar.

Big Hero 6, being ignored is baffling when they made 600,000,000 world-wide and had a top RT score. Esepecially that it appeals to both boys and girls. Nope, not a princess flick. :down:

Now, I just heard a rumor on Tumblr (Take it with a grain of salt) that Zootopia's short is going to be Big Hero 6.

But, why ignore WIR? Apparently, it flopped at marketing. But, look! They can do a lot with video games. Sugar Rush, especially. Yeah, yeah, Disney Publishing is acknowledging them, but that's it. They're ignored. WIR has lots of potential, like developing side characters and building on the worlds they have. A TV show or some type of short would be great. Or a Disney Park attraction, like retheming the Buzz Lightyear ride to Hero's Duty. Nope, not a princess flick. :down:

The problem is if any of these two or both of these movies were Pixar, they would be placed on pedestals. But since it's WDAS, they're under the rug. WDAS needs better management for those things. Very interesting that Zootopia hasn't been in theaters yet, and it's already being ignored. Not to mention that it's already being outshined by Moana, which comes out in a year. :roll:
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The first attempts by Disney to make CGI movies got worse and worse until Rapunzel (as always, I personally refuse to include Dinosaur into the canon). With the exception of the annoying pop-cultural references in the opening of the movie, and some attempts to be hip and cool, Chicken Little was not that bad. Meet the Robinsons made so little impression that I barely remembers it, which at last for me makes it a very forgettable movie. But at least I can't remember finding it boring. Bolt was awful, and a result of what happened when Lasseter reshaped Chris Sanders' movie in his own image.

As far as I know, Disney has never made a movie without all the following elements:

Songs and musical numbers

Talking animals or objects

Magic, fairytale content or sci-fi

Royals or monarchs

Based on already existing material, real or fictional

Sidekicks

If the action is set in the past or present is not that important.

Not that it would make the movie better without any of this, or that Disney should stop making these movie. It simply means that the studio has never made such a feature. Which is why it would be interesting if at least one could be added to the canon as well. But that would of course only works if they came up with a story that justified it.

Wreck-it Ralph is one of my favorite CGI movies from Disney, and Big Hero 6 doesn't look bad either. I'll see it some day as I missed it at the theatres (I also refuse to be forced to see movies that are dubbed and/or in 3D).

But I do hope these movies gets the recognition they deserve.
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disneyprincess11 wrote:Unfortunately, they're right: Disney's motto is "If it's not princess, it doesn't exist" :down: And it's sad. Disney complains that there's little boys merch (minus Star Wars), but here they are: AN ANIMATED SUPERHERO FLICK & A VIDEO GAME MOVIE, which both did great at the box office. Not to mention, one is an Academy Award winner and the other wrongfully lost to Pixar.
That's the unfortunate reality with Disney nowadays. Though I shan't claim if Disney actually ignores their other franchises/how they're doing, the Princess/"Frozen" franchise is what Disney are about currently (which really my blog is all about).

Anyway, to the op, just because Disney haven't given "Wreck-It-Ralph" and "Big Hero 6" so much attention, doesn't mean that Disney litterally hates them. Though it's a irony, due to that both helped Disney into the new Revival era and were box office hits. They just don't promote them, that's all.
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disneyprincess11 wrote:Big Hero 6, being ignored is baffling when they made 600,000,000 world-wide and had a top RT score. Esepecially that it appeals to both boys and girls. Nope, not a princess flick. :down:
Well, considering Frozen did twice those numbers, the disparity in merch/advertising isn't that hard to understand. They aren't doing as well as Pixar's films either.
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It does actually puzzle me why Big Hero 6 doesn't have big merchandising and promotion, especially when they wanted boys attention.

But I guess because it didn't do as well as the princess films, it actually didn't do as well as we thought? So not enough kids would go for the merchandise?
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bkelly25 wrote:Does Disney Hate Wreck It Ralph?
Nope, apparently not:

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It might not be enough for some, but the movie isn't hated or completely ignored!
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Disney Duster wrote:It does actually puzzle me why Big Hero 6[/b] doesn't have big merchandising and promotion, especially when they wanted boys attention.

But I guess because it didn't do as well as the princess films, it actually didn't do as well as we thought? So not enough kids would go for the merchandise?


Actually, it did about $67 million more at the box office than Tangled.
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Pretty much the "princess" factor.
True. However, are Fantasia, Pinocchio, Bambi, Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, 101 Dalmatians, Lady and the Tramp, Jungle Book, Winnie the Pooh, The Lion King, Tarzan and Lilo & Stitch part of the "princess factor?" All Disney animated movies but have no princesses. What about Pixar? Yes, they created Brave which features a princess. But we have Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Cars, Ratatouille, Wall-E, Up, Inside Out and the upcoming The Good Dinosaur. No princesses in those. I understand that Disney bought Star Wars and Marvel to appeal to boys, but both Disney animation and especially Pixar have properties and characters that boys can enjoy.

I just feel that Disney plays "select the popular" when it comes to Disney films. It's all Beauty and the Beast and Toy Story. Now, I understand why certain films will not be promoted. Hercules is not featured because overall the film is considered a disappointment by Disney and even audience standards despite nostalgic value. Now take Mulan for example, it is a VERY popular film and Disney seems to be noticing that (Hence why Mulan is used in Disney Infinity, Once Upon a Time and will be getting a live action film). I feel like the only reason Mulan did not make the box office numbers like Lion king was not only China's response but because of the previous disappointments of Pocahontas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Hercules overshadowed the chance of Mulan outgrossing Lion King. But overtime, Mulan has grown in it's status.
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