Is there a way to make Jasmine not take over Aladdin?

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Is there a way to make Jasmine not take over Aladdin?

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We´ve talked about this before.

If you´re an Aladdin movie fan you´ll understand how we feel as how Aladdin gets neglected.

When the movie was first released Genie was all over the place. Not a chance for Aladdin to glow.

As the time continued, suddenly it was Jafar who "lead" the movie. Not because of him exactly but because of the Disney Villains line. So, because he´s a great villain and now there´s this merchandise line targeted to adults he´s the one representing.

Then, the time for the Disney Princess came and now is Jasmine who takes the spotlight. Don´t believe me? Check who´s in the banner for the Aladdin search site and holding what:

http://www.disneystore.com/disney-princ ... arch=10002

For me, it´s not that I love Aladdin as a character either. But the fact is that the movie is called ALADDIN. How come any other character from the movie can take his spot?

And, not only that, but because of Jasmine as the character representing the movie now you´ve turned what is a "boys" movie into a "girls" one. Just what we don´t need. If there´s something for boys in Disney (not Marvel) please let me know. But as far as I know there was the failed Disney Heroes line (such a great idea just forgotten). The adults have the Disney Villains (well, mostly women). And not only the girls have the Disney Princess line but also the Disney Fairies (another punch in the stomach to other "boys" movie). Add to that the Merida character AND the huge success of Frozen and then the boys have nothing. So, why take away Aladdin from them?

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What did Disney do with Wreck it Ralph? And don´t tell me about the upcoming Big Hero 6 since coming from a Marvel comic not only I do not consider it "worthy" but to me that shouldn´t have happened ever (don´t care how great the movie could end up being). And I say that, not because I´m a DC Comics fan. Had DC belonged to Disney and Big Hero 6 was a DC comic I´d say the same thing. Because I do believe things have to be kept separate.
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Re: Is there a way to make Jasmine not take over Aladdin?

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I see where you're getting at, but is "Aladdin" really that neglected? Sure, it's not strange that the Genie was more prominent in the marketing, since he was the most succesful character in the film, but I remember that Aladdin himself was quite featured in merchandising during the film's release.
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The same could be said for Beauty and the Beast, I suppose. I'm surprised that the Disney Heroes line never took off.

I guess it is strange that there is a lack of promotion (mostly merchandising I suppose) for the "boys" films past the initial release (like the lack of WIR merch less than 2 years after its release). I don't know if Atlantis or TP having lower box office has anything to do with it or not...
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The thing with Beauty and the Beast is that it is "technically" a "girls" movie. While Aladdin is not.

And then there´s what blackcauldron and I mentioned regarding Wreck it Ralph; nothing. And not only the movie was great but it dealt with the very popular theme of video games. Easily exploited.

And let´s take Big Hero 6. Let´s say it is great and there´s merchandise (not just for the release) but from there on.

...again, this is something based on a Marvel comic not to mention it is yet a super hero movie. As if boys can´t enjoy with the Classics line as well (Aladdin, The Lion King, Robin Hood, Peter Pan, Tarzan, Treasure Planet, Atlantis...). No. If you´re a boy you´re meant to like just super heroes and stick with the Marvel property. If you´re a girl THEN you´re free to like the animated films.

Come on...even the Disney Infinity game: aside from Wreck it Ralph boys have to like Captain Sparrow and the Pixar movies. Girls... enjoy Rapunzel, Elsa and Anna.

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I´d even supported a super hero movie if it was created by Disney and then moved to the actual Marvel comics. Not just take the easy route and go make a movie from the Marvel property.
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And don´t tell me about the upcoming Big Hero 6 since coming from a Marvel comic not only I do not consider it "worthy" but to me that shouldn´t have happened ever (don´t care how great the movie could end up being). And I say that, not because I´m a DC Comics fan. Had DC belonged to Disney and Big Hero 6 was a DC comic I´d say the same thing. Because I do believe things have to be kept separate.
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I am so sick of this absurd line of thinking. It's not like they're making an Avengers movie and counting it in the official Disney animated canon (or Spider-Man, X-Men, etc which they're not even allowed to do). Big Hero 6 is VERY obscure, even among comic fans. There were only 28 issues featuring the characters. EVER. The general public definitely has never heard of it, which allows Disney to do what they want with it.

A LOT of Disney movies are based on novels, short stories, fairy tales, poems, and other forms of literature that Disney had no hand in creating. Big Hero 6 is another very loose adaptation of another work that, based on the previews, is very Disneyfied just like everything else they do. Get over it. A lot of people were saying Disney shouldn't make a movie about video games either :roll:


As for Aladdin, he gets enough attention coming from a movie that's over 20 years old. Tons of presence in the Disney parks, a Broadway show that is still centered around Aladdin, an upcoming figure for Disney Infinity which has mainly put out Pixar and Marvel characters (it was originally just Aladdin but Jasmine was added later), and more. What else do you want? For him to become the official Disney mascot over Mickey Mouse? Whenever the movie Aladdin gets attention, it's still attention for the character of Aladdin himself. Jasmine isn't even that popular among the princesses anyway.

I also find your "boys can only like boys" and "girls can only like girls" logic offensive.
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This thread is really old but I'm going to give my opinion.
The movie is called Aladdin but the story is about him trying to have a relationship with Jasmine so that makes Jasmine a deuteragonist and not a second character. She sells well and people were pleased with her becuase by the time she
was a different princess, very modern and with a strong personality. Obviously if she gets more attention than Aladdin then she's going to have more merchandise. Until Tiana and Moana she was the only non-white princess that appears in almost all the merchandise.
Disney is an enterprise and they want to sell as much as possible. If Aladdin doesn't sell as much as the Genie or Jasmine they they are not going to make much stuff of him despite that he's the main character.
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I don't think of Jasmine as a deuteragonist, she's not as developed as Aladdin is. She's less developed than Beast, but more developed than Eric (and both of them are more developed than the old Walt princes). Of course, I just had a stray thought that Meg in Hercules is much more developed and I still don't think of Meg as a deuteragonist either. B&tB is really the only one of the '90s films where the love interest and lead feel equivalent to one another.

I do think it's sort of funny how Aladdin himself is sort of forgotten these days. A shame, too, since he's one of the best Disney characters (especially among their male characters).
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I don't agree with that. She's not only a princess who doesn't want to get married with a stranger. She's also against Jafar. She wants her freedom and she wants to know her kingdom. She's tired of beeing a silent princess and wants to change that. She also knows that people want to be with her for selfish purposes. She knows how to deffend herself and that's really interesiting. In my opinion she's a well developed character and her story and her motivations are really clear from the first scene.
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