NEWS: It's Royal Wedding Time for the UK!

[Wonderlicious]

Crank out the Mendelssohn...

Prince William has spoken of his and fiancee Kate Middleton's happiness, as the newly-engaged couple faced the cameras for the first time.

The couple, both 28, will marry next spring or summer after he proposed while on holiday in Kenya in October.

The prince said: "The timing is right now. We are both very, very happy."

He has given Kate his mother's ring. He said: "It's very special to me. As Kate's very special to me now, it was right to put the two together."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11770033

Let's hope they hold it on a weekday, mainly so that we get a day off!

[PatrickvD]

did you hear that? It's the sound of millions of women worldwide jumping off a cliff. He's officially off the market.

Not that normal looking people ever had a snowball's chance in heck anyway. A consolation: he's balding!

[yamiiguy]

Someone remind me why we're still a constitutional monarchy. I think that we should just end it with Elizabeth II.

[Wonderlicious]

A consolation: he's balding!

And you'd get Prince Charles as your father-in-law. But more importantly, your mother-in-law would be Camilla.

[Disney's Divinity]

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He has given Kate his mother's ring.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11770033

You know that's gonna come back to bite him.

[Goliath]

He has given Kate his mother's ring.

Cheap fuck.

Girl is hot, by the way. But I feel bad for her for becoming part of that ridiculous bad soap opera.

[PatrickvD]

He has given Kate his mother's ring.

Cheap fuck.

Girl is hot, by the way. But I feel bad for her for becoming part of that ridiculous bad soap opera.

Next Week on The Royals:

James Hewitt: "Harry... I am your father..."
Prince Harry: "Well no shit, Sherlock!"

[Escapay]

Congratulations to them, I hope they're very happy together.

albert

[Jules]

[And you'd get Prince Charles as your father-in-law. But more importantly, your mother-in-law would be Camilla.

What, are they both vampires or something?

Joking aside, everytime I'm told of when Prince Charles married Camilla, I get the impression the original announcement was a bit of a shocker, or perhaps slightly scandalous. Was it really that way? And was Charles really seeing Camilla when he was still married to Diana?

[Goliath]

And was Charles really seeing Camilla when he was still married to Diana?

Oh yes, he was; it was a public secret. That's what drove Diana in the arms of men like Dodi Lafayette. She obviously knew about her husband's affairs. Why else you think Diana had such a strange, bizarre car crash?

[Siren]

And was Charles really seeing Camilla when he was still married to Diana?

Oh yes, he was; it was a public secret. That's what drove Diana in the arms of men like Dodi Lafayette. She obviously knew about her husband's affairs. Why else you think Diana had such a strange, bizarre car crash?

That has yet to be solved.

I wish all the happiness to him and his fiance. Hopefully he's inherited his mother's personality more than his fathers and doesn't stray.

I got no love for Charles and Camilla. What they did emotionally to Diana was unforgivable. I have no love for cheaters and the men/women who knowingly stay with the cheater.

I await the day when Camilla finds Charles with his pants down with another women. If he cheated on Diana, he'll likely cheat on Camilla. Women and men who stay with a cheater are morons. Its like partnering with a scam artist and being surprised when they steal from you too.

[Wonderlicious]

I got no love for Charles and Camilla. What they did emotionally to Diana was unforgivable. I have no love for cheaters and the men/women who knowingly stay with the cheater.

This. There's other reasons why I don't like Charles, but this is the number one reason. Camilla is a horrid creature either way. I honestly do hope that William will be a good husband (and that Kate will be a good wife).

[BelleGirl]

Oh yes, he was; it was a public secret. That's what drove Diana in the arms of men like Dodi Lafayette. She obviously knew about her husband's affairs. Why else you think Diana had such a strange, bizarre car crash?

That has yet to be solved.

I wish all the happiness to him and his fiance. Hopefully he's inherited his mother's personality more than his fathers and doesn't stray.

I got no love for Charles and Camilla. What they did emotionally to Diana was unforgivable. I have no love for cheaters and the men/women who knowingly stay with the cheater.

I await the day when Camilla finds Charles with his pants down with another women. If he cheated on Diana, he'll likely cheat on Camilla. Women and men who stay with a cheater are morons. Its like partnering with a scam artist and being surprised when they steal from you too.

As far as I understand Camilla is the love of Charles' life. He cheated Diana with Camilla because he loved Camilla already before he became engaged with Diana. So my guess is Charles won't cheat Camilla with another woman. If Wills and Harry can live with the fact that their father married his old love, why can't others?

[Siren]

That has yet to be solved.

I wish all the happiness to him and his fiance. Hopefully he's inherited his mother's personality more than his fathers and doesn't stray.

I got no love for Charles and Camilla. What they did emotionally to Diana was unforgivable. I have no love for cheaters and the men/women who knowingly stay with the cheater.

I await the day when Camilla finds Charles with his pants down with another women. If he cheated on Diana, he'll likely cheat on Camilla. Women and men who stay with a cheater are morons. Its like partnering with a scam artist and being surprised when they steal from you too.

As far as I understand Camilla is the love of Charles' life. He cheated Diana with Camilla because he loved Camilla already before he became engaged with Diana. So my guess is Charles won't cheat Camilla with another woman. If Wills and Harry can live with the fact that their father married his old love, why can't others?

Who says they have fully accepted it? They put on a face, we don't know what goes on when the cameras and audience go away. Maybe they do love her, maybe they forgave their dad.

But I don't buy the whole, he loved her, so its ok that he cheated. If he didn't love Diana, he should have called it off. He obviously loved Diana once too. Otherwise why have a relationship and marry her at all? We are well past the years of arranged marriages and frankly, the monarchy has been a sham for a long time. If he also had a sham marriage, well that's even LESS of a reason to like him or trust him. Someone who cheats, also lies, and that is not a person that should be welcomed or accepted in any sort of power.

[BelleGirl]

But I don't buy the whole, he loved her, so its ok that he cheated. If he didn't love Diana, he should have called it off. He obviously loved Diana once too. Otherwise why have a relationship and marry her at all? We are well past the years of arranged marriages and frankly, the monarchy has been a sham for a long time. If he also had a sham marriage, well that's even LESS of a reason to like him or trust him. Someone who cheats, also lies, and that is not a person that should be welcomed or accepted in any sort of power.

Siren,

Did I suggest in this case it was ok he cheated her? I don't think so. I just think not every cheater is the same: some people cheat their spouses because they truly love someone else, others because the find it adventurous to fool around.

Did you know what the late prince Bernhard of The Netherlands did? He fathered two daughters outside of wedlock with two different women. The youngest is about the same age as Willem-Alexander. (FYI:oldest grandson and crown-prince of The Netherlands) Juliana knew about it.
To me Bernhard seems to be the latter sort of cheater. Worse than prince Charles. I suppose you don't find it an excuse that his marriage to Juliana was more or less arranged?

[Goliath]

Did I suggest in this case it was ok he cheated her? I don't think so. I just think not every cheater is the same: some people cheat their spouses because they truly love someone else, others because the find it adventurous to fool around.

I agree. People are so quick to judge. (But that doesn't make me like Charles one bit.)

Did you know what the late prince [husband of Queen Juliana] Bernhard of The Netherlands did? He fathered two daughters outside of wedlock with two different women. The youngest is about the same age as Willem-Alexander. (FYI:oldest grandson and crown-prince of The Netherlands) Juliana knew about it.
To me Bernhard seems to be the latter sort of cheater. Worse than prince Charles. I suppose you don't find it an excuse that his marriage to Juliana was more or less arranged?

Well, I don't think it's any excuse at all, because it was his own choice to be married to (then princess) Juliana. He came from impoverished and not very high-standing nobility. His marriage was meant to better his and his family's social standing (and finances). The cheating is the least of reasons why Bernhard was a piece of scum. He was involved in bribery, corruption, a possible coup in Indonesia against Sukarno, and, we have learned this week, possible involvement in arms deals to Indonesian rebel forces in the 1950's.

[Disney's Divinity]

Not to get off-topic, but I personally think there’s no real excuse for adultery. Of course, there are explanations which can be more or less understandable. But, still, adultery is kind of a childish reaction to bad circumstances, and usually only makes things worse for everyone involved. Not to mention that it’s probably one of the most hurtful things you can do to someone (and, unfortunately, that’s sometimes the point). Why anyone would cheat to hurt rather than just breaking up, or degrade someone else in the process (the person they cheated with), is beyond me. There’s no reason to hate someone for it, if you‘re not the one in the relationship, but it does say a lot about the person. And it's worse when there are children involved, because they grow up having to "take sides" or resent one of their parents. I wonder how the two princes felt.

[Goliath]

[...] Why anyone would cheat to hurt rather than just breaking up, or degrade someone else in the process (the person they cheated with), is beyond me.

Mostly because it's a thing that happens in the moment, and you're not going to call up your wife and ask for a divorce in the moment. And it's different for men, because they can seperate 'love' from 'lust'. Unlike women, they are able to have a sexual affair without it meaning something.

[Disney's Divinity]

[...] Why anyone would cheat to hurt rather than just breaking up, or degrade someone else in the process (the person they cheated with), is beyond me.

Mostly because it's a thing that happens in the moment, and you're not going to call up your wife and ask for a divorce in the moment.

I was only talking about people who often cheat to hurt in that sentence (possibly out of anger at a partner).

And it's different for men, because they can seperate 'love' from 'lust'. Unlike women, they are able to have a sexual affair without it meaning something.

I don't really believe that, tbh. At heart, people are emotional/psychological beings (yes, that includes men), and when you’re willing to have sex with someone on the spot, it, imo, only represents a deeper problem, either with the person or the relationship or with how the person feels about/views the relationship.

Well, I'll leave it at that. Don't want to veer any farther off-topic.

[Goliath]

I don't really believe that, tbh. At heart, people are emotional/psychological beings (yes, that includes men), and when you’re willing to have sex with someone on the spot, it, imo, only represents a deeper problem, either with the person or the relationship or with how the person feels about/views the relationship.

Well, that may be your 'opinion', but biology and evolution contradict everything you said. I'm sorry.