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I've bought my first ever Blu-Ray Player!!!

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So after nearly a year and a half of saying I was going to buy a Blu-Ray player and after purchasing serveral titles some of which weren't combos (meanig I had no way to play them) I have finally bought my first ever player!!! I'm so excited, I got it yesturday and so far so good. My model is the Sony BDP-S360 and I got a really good deal from HMV, I paid £149.99 and got The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (£49.99 to buy) free with it as well as a load of points on my HMV Pure Account! Still can't believe I've finally made the jump, I'm looking foward to finally being able to enjoy some of the Blu-Ray exculsive bonus content such as The Hyperion Studios on Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs that I've heard people talking about. I'm still quite naive when it comes to players but I've read some great reviews for my model and it has everything I want personally, anyone got the same one or another of Sony's?? If so what do you make of it? Currently I have 17 titles (5 of which are Disney) on Blu-Ray and I'm looking forward to building up my collection though I still plan on buying DVDs as well which upscaled look fantasic may I say! Anyways I just wanted to share my exciting news with people and gather people's thoughts and opinions :D
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Congrats and welcome to Blu-ray! You got a very good deal, on a good player.

I have been using the BDP-BX2 since June 2009. Its Sam's Club/Costco's version of the BDP-S360. Its the same player except it comes with a free HDMI cable and backlit remote.

So far I've really enjoyed it. It is my main Blu-ray/DVD player, even though I have a PS3. I picked up a PS3 Slim last fall, mainly for games, but it does get used some for Blu-rays. I prefer the BX2 because the fan is silent, and the Slim gives off a slight noise (which is normal). As far as loading speed compared to the PS3, using the latest firmware its nearly as fast in my opinion. Its such a small difference its hard to notice on most titles.

Anyway my only complaint is the lack of an eject button on the remote. I know the S350/BX1 had this feature. Very minor, but I'm not sure why Sony removed it.
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Oh COME ON!!! You can't do this, you can't use my title (not unless, when you say "my first...player," you anticipate having to buy a 2nd within a month or so) when Blu-Ray's only maybe 3-something years old... Try waiting 'til 2014 or something. Then it'll be news. When almost every last single person on Earth has one but you. Let me tell you, millions and millions of people in America are not into Blu-Ray yet. In fact, let's hope they take longer to get into this than people who replaced their vinyl records and cassette tapes with CD... And for some, that itself was a lifetime.

I don't have Blu-Ray and you know what? I'm proud to say I don't. Not only as a lover of classic Disney films, but as a lover of obscure films that are getting passed over for Blu-Ray by studios like Anchor Bay in favor of direct-to-video crap for the new-millennium that nobody wants on the format anyway. The only good reason to Blu-Ray now is in case any of those new discs go out-of-print. Anyone got a list of Blu-Ray titles that are out-of-print??

People - do not allow yourselves to become brainwashed! Blu-Ray is not taking over yet. Don't let people tell you that it's already here. Remember how many things aren't on the format yet. We can wait.
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Lazario wrote:
People - do not allow yourselves to become brainwashed! Blu-Ray is not taking over yet. Don't let people tell you that it's already here. Remember how many things aren't on the format yet. We can wait.
That last statement also applies to the DVD format as well about how many things aren't out or even available period be it DVD or Blu Ray
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DarthPrime wrote:Congrats and welcome to Blu-ray! You got a very good deal, on a good player.
Thank you it's good to hear other people's opinions to reassure myself that I chose the right player :)
DarthPrime wrote:I have been using the BDP-BX2 since June 2009. Its Sam's Club/Costco's version of the BDP-S360. Its the same player except it comes with a free HDMI cable and backlit remote.
Ah I wish mine had come with a free HMDI Lead, I only paid £14.99 for mine though so it wasn't that bad. I couldn't believe how expensive some of them were to buy, I went to a few stores and some leads were for sale at £100+!!! I think for what I need my basic lead suits the purpose perfectly, I couldn't imagine who would need a lead that expensive :shock:
DarthPrime wrote:So far I've really enjoyed it. It is my main Blu-ray/DVD player, even though I have a PS3. I picked up a PS3 Slim last fall, mainly for games, but it does get used some for Blu-rays. I prefer the BX2 because the fan is silent, and the Slim gives off a slight noise (which is normal). As far as loading speed compared to the PS3, using the latest firmware its nearly as fast in my opinion. Its such a small difference its hard to notice on most titles.

Anyway my only complaint is the lack of an eject button on the remote. I know the S350/BX1 had this feature. Very minor, but I'm not sure why Sony removed it.
Yer originally I had thought about getting a PS3 but then I'm not much of a gamer and I know for a fact that I just would never use it for gaming as which was one of the reasons why I choose to wait more than a year for prices to come down on players. I had read about bad loading times, but I haven't had much of a problem really. The only problem I have is that it collects dusk sooooo quickly and yer it would have been nice to have an Eject button on the remote but I can live without it, so all and all I'm really happy with my Blu-Ray player :D
Lazario wrote:Oh COME ON!!! You can't do this, you can't use my title (not unless, when you say "my first...player," you anticipate having to buy a 2nd within a month or so) when Blu-Ray's only maybe 3-something years old... Try waiting 'til 2014 or something. Then it'll be news.
Wow now this was a very unexpected reply! I'm sorry if I offended you or annoyed you in any way but I can assure you that your thread did not even skim my mind AT ALL when I created this thread, I simply wanted to emphasize the fact that it was the very first Blu-Ray player that I'd come into access with! I am the ONLY person I know of personally who owns a Blu-Ray player or even a PS3 and watches Blu-Rays on it. The fact that you have a thread in the Disney Discussion board with a very similar title did not cross my mind until you pointed it out to me now, you may not believe me but it's the truth. I know this may seen unlikely especially as it seems I posted a reply on your thread the same day as starting this thread, and like I said I apologize if I caused any offense it was completely un-intentional!!
Lazario wrote:I don't have Blu-Ray and you know what? I'm proud to say I don't.
That's great for you, I find it a matter of personal preference and I do not wish to push Blu-Ray upon anyone I have simply decided that I would like the option to own/watch Blu-Rays but that does not mean I'm turning my back on DVD because as I stated in my original post ....
miklc wrote:I still plan on buying DVDs as well which upscaled look fantasic may I say!
I like both DVD and Blu-Ray you like DVD, someone else might like Blu-Ray exclusively and that's fine, please lets not turn this board into yet another Blu-Ray VS DVD thread which seems to be the fate of so many other threads these days which is often why I cease from posting in them because I'm so tired of reading the same backwards and forwards arguing over which is better.I started this board as because I was excited about the fact I had bought a player and would like peoples thoughts/opinions on the model that I had purchased, not to debate which format is better. Just buy what you like and enjoy it :D
Lazario wrote:People - do not allow yourselves to become brainwashed! Blu-Ray is not taking over yet. Don't let people tell you that it's already here. Remember how many things aren't on the format yet. We can wait.
Knowone is being brainwashed into the format, well certainly not by me, like I said just buy what you enjoy. I have even said earlier in this post that I don't know of anyone personally who buys Blu-Ray, DVD is definately in the majority at the moment and is likely to be for a long time, which is also why this is news, well at least for me as I've finally bought a player after a year and a half of contemplating and that I'm also part of a minority :)
disneyboy20022 wrote:That last statement also applies to the DVD format as well about how many things aren't out or even available period be it DVD or Blu Ray
I agree and it's really annoying one prime example that pops in my head is Miranda (1948) and it's sequel Mad About Men (1954) starring Glynis Jones which is still yet to see the light of day on DVD annoyingly :x Wow that was a long post for me anyway haha :lol:
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Stores really mark up cables. There is no need for the expensive ones they sell. I'm using some $6 ones from Monoprice, and they work fantastic.

I'm glad your enjoying your player.

I have noticed that it does get dusty quick. I think its the plastic thats used on the player. The PS3 is also really bad at attracting dust.
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disneyboy20022 wrote:
Lazario wrote:People - do not allow yourselves to become brainwashed! Blu-Ray is not taking over yet. Don't let people tell you that it's already here. Remember how many things aren't on the format yet. We can wait.
That last statement also applies to the DVD format as well
I know that. All the more reason to tell Blu-Ray to go back into the stable.

disneyboy20022 wrote:about how many things aren't out or even available period be it DVD or Blu Ray
You still can't compare DVD to Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray is the studios' way of trying to force us to buy what everyone else is buying. Because one day, when the public starts to believe Blu-Ray has taken over and they start trying to force DVD away, they'll be so brainwashed into buying whatever the studios put out just because it looks (and probably sounds) better than standard DVD, that they're not going to petition as strongly or complain as loudly that more than three or four times the number of titles that aren't available on DVD are also not available on Blu-Ray either.

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Lazario wrote:Oh COME ON!!! You can't do this, you can't use my title (not unless, when you say "my first...player," you anticipate having to buy a 2nd within a month or so) when Blu-Ray's only maybe 3-something years old... Try waiting 'til 2014 or something. Then it'll be news.
Wow now this was a very unexpected reply! I'm sorry if I offended you or annoyed you in any way
I just sound extreme whenever I talk about Blu-Ray's new attempt at a marketplace dictatorship. I was actually going to say that the whole "you can't" thing was a joke. But then I got carried away. Though I technically meant what I said about Blu-Ray. And still do, it's pure evil. And it's trying to take over DVD. We have to remember that when pro-Blu-Ray-ers try to pimp the format. Remember both what it's purpose should be for and what it's actually in-fact doing. If we're meant to see it as the shrine / ultimate showcase for how to present classic movies and important films from decades past on home video... these titles shouldn't be sold next to Blu-Ray's for every last stupid piece of New-Millennium crap. Studios can't decide what they want Blu-Ray for. And now pressure from major studios is forcing smaller studios to come up with Blu-Ray titles too. Like Anchor Bay, who's output is not consistent. They have many important films from the 70's and 80's but when they announce a new batch of horror titles... they're all new-millennium direct-to-DVD titles. Who the HELL cares about that? We don't. They just feel like they have to release new movies because that's what the studios are doing. No smaller studios seem to think they can survive selling Blu-Ray's unless they put out newer movies rather than classics. And don't be surprised if one day, studios like Anchor Bay or Shout Factory! have to step up to release Hollywood movies because Blu-Ray becomes so freaking flooded with releases of remakes and Michael Bay and CGI-animated Garfield Alvin Scooby-Doo Clifford whatever that we can't even get Meg Ryan and Julia Roberts' movies from the 90's on the format. That's just one example. Pick any mainstream trend. It'll no doubt one day apply. And then those smaller studios, if they even get the rights to larger studio output (which just makes sense to me because the larger studios would still be making money off the deal), then cult favorites won't stand a chance of hell of making it to Blu-Ray and then the standard DVD's will just go out-of-print and no one will ever be able to see the movies. Which, they may not ever be seen as classics in people's eyes, but they still deserve to be seen every bit as much as Hollywood's garbage. And in the case of new-millennium brainless crap - even moreso.

miklc wrote:I can assure you that your thread did not even skim my mind AT ALL when I created this thread
If that's true, it's still a stunning coincidence. At least let me tell you that I was certainly thinking of you and at least 3 other members of the board who had Little Mermaid avatars or inspired names when I posted my news about buying the Little Mermaid: Platinum Edition.

miklc wrote:I simply wanted to emphasize the fact that it was the very first Blu-Ray player that I'd come into access with! I am the ONLY person I know of personally who owns a Blu-Ray player or even a PS3 and watches Blu-Rays on it.
Lazario wrote:I don't have Blu-Ray and you know what? I'm proud to say I don't.
That's great for you, I find it a matter of personal preference
Oh that's not fair!, Miklc!

I would prefer any and every movie to be in the best possible shape it could be. I'm not against progress. But Blu-Ray is not progress! Even if the movies that do get a release are in better shape than standard-DVD, do you have any movies are never going to be released on the format? In fact, if they could list every single movie available on Blu-Ray and then figure them into a list: all movies made after let's say 2005 and all movies made before 2005... Which list would you say has more titles available on it?? Right now, it may be before-2005. But you just watch how quickly that balance shifts. I'm telling you: years from now, the Blu-Ray pushers will be complaining more than anyone else that not enough older movies are on Blu-Ray. Even if I have to be the one to remind them!

miklc wrote:you like DVD, someone else might like Blu-Ray exclusively and that's fine
And being that Blu-Ray has maybe 2 or 3% at most of the total available movies on standard-DVD... I would say that's not fine at all.

I know it's going to take time to release them. But in that meantime, why release new movies on freaking Blu-Ray at all? They already look better than standard DVD releases of movies from any decade previous to the 90's. And probably before the 90's, too! Blu-Ray should be trying to catch up to standard DVD. It's trying to eclipse it. Make it go away. And it's bad enough that enough standard DVD movies are out-of-print as it is. Blu-Ray's not making anything easier or better.

Just look at region-1 Disney. How many of their animated classics are on Blu-Ray? 3. 1 per every season that they released a new Platinum or Diamond Edition. 3 in nearly the last 18 months!! Is it helping to push out-of-print titles into print somehow? No. Only maybe with Dumbo, which is only on Blu-Ray in foreign countries. If those non region-1 discs play in your Blu-Ray player, you also have to be able to order the foreign discs outside the country from trust-worthy sources or else you're taking a risk with your money. Meanwhile, you guys are going to have to wait until October - the fall, when SPRING still isn't even over - for Beauty and the Beast to get to Blu-Ray. Where is the progress there? Blu-Ray can't fix problems with standard DVD and in the meantime, it's creating BRAND NEW problems we shouldn't even have to be dealing with.

miklc wrote:I started this board as because I was excited about the fact I had bought a player and would like peoples thoughts/opinions on the model that I had purchased, not to debate which format is better. Just buy what you like and enjoy it :D
I can't do that. I'm not rich and they still aren't releasing enough Disney titles for this to be worth my while. Nor are enough quality cult movies getting the Blu-Ray treatment. The only 2 Argento movies available are the ones Blue Underground currently owns the rights to. 1969's The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (which is totally worth owning, but is not worth upgrading to Blu-Ray for) and 1996's The Stendhal Syndrome (which I'm sure looks like a million bucks, but it's not classic Argento). Argento is cinema GOD and his movies were BORN for Blu-Ray. Suspiria would be like GLORIOUS on Blu-Ray, I'm sure... but it's still not on Blu-Ray. Meanwhile... College Road Trip, one of the worst movies of all-time, IS!!! That is beyond sick. That's pure injustice, right there. ( Proof: http://www.amazon.com/College-Road-Trip ... B0017TWUZ6 , so you can see it with your own eyes)

"Buy what I enjoy"? Okay, so I should upgrade to this overblown, overly expensive new format to just buy 10-15 DVD's and then sit around for another 10 years waiting for the smaller studios to finally release Argento's 6 legendary classics (Deep Red, Suspiria, Inferno, Tenebre, Phenomena, Opera)... plus the other essential cult horror films?

The way Blu-Ray is going now, that'll be a cold day in hell. The day, that is, when there are enough must-have movies on Blu-Ray for it to be worth bothering with for me to upgrade.
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Lazario wrote: You still can't compare DVD to Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray is the studios' way of trying to force us to buy what everyone else is buying. Because one day, when the public starts to believe Blu-Ray has taken over and they start trying to force DVD away, they'll be so brainwashed into buying whatever the studios put out just because it looks (and probably sounds) better than standard DVD, that they're not going to petition as strongly or complain as loudly that more than three or four times the number of titles that aren't available on DVD are also not available on Blu-Ray either.
But that's not true. When DVD was invented, people only had a SD option - SD TVs, SD transmissions, SD games consoles etc. Blu-ray is needed because now people have an HD option. It would be a ludicrous situation where I'm able to watch Doctor Who, Ashes to Ashes, Red Dwarf etc on TV for "free" in HD, and yet, if I decided to purchase the programmes for myself, the only option would be SD.

Yes, its up to an individual if they feel the cost of HD home entertainment is worth paying or if they are happy to remain with SD/DVD or decide to wait until the next "big" thing comes along. But to say its forcing or brainwashing an individual to buy a Blu-ray is a little elaborate I feel.
I just sound extreme whenever I talk about Blu-Ray's new attempt at a marketplace dictatorship. I was actually going to say that the whole "you can't" thing was a joke. But then I got carried away. Though I technically meant what I said about Blu-Ray. And still do, it's pure evil. And it's trying to take over DVD. We have to remember that when pro-Blu-Ray-ers try to pimp the format. Remember both what it's purpose should be for and what it's actually in-fact doing. If we're meant to see it as the shrine / ultimate showcase for how to present classic movies and important films from decades past on home video... these titles shouldn't be sold next to Blu-Ray's for every last stupid piece of New-Millennium crap. Studios can't decide what they want Blu-Ray for. And now pressure from major studios is forcing smaller studios to come up with Blu-Ray titles too. Like Anchor Bay, who's output is not consistent. They have many important films from the 70's and 80's but when they announce a new batch of horror titles... they're all new-millennium direct-to-DVD titles. Who the HELL cares about that? We don't. They just feel like they have to release new movies because that's what the studios are doing. No smaller studios seem to think they can survive selling Blu-Ray's unless they put out newer movies rather than classics. And don't be surprised if one day, studios like Anchor Bay or Shout Factory! have to step up to release Hollywood movies because Blu-Ray becomes so freaking flooded with releases of remakes and Michael Bay and CGI-animated Garfield Alvin Scooby-Doo Clifford whatever that we can't even get Meg Ryan and Julia Roberts' movies from the 90's on the format. That's just one example. Pick any mainstream trend. It'll no doubt one day apply. And then those smaller studios, if they even get the rights to larger studio output (which just makes sense to me because the larger studios would still be making money off the deal), then cult favorites won't stand a chance of hell of making it to Blu-Ray and then the standard DVD's will just go out-of-print and no one will ever be able to see the movies. Which, they may not ever be seen as classics in people's eyes, but they still deserve to be seen every bit as much as Hollywood's garbage. And in the case of new-millennium brainless crap - even moreso.
The problem is, to show the benefit of Blu-ray, time and money has to be spent on restoring older films. It makes sense to put new films on Blu-ray-, because they're most probably taken from digital editing suite copies before they're even put onto the final film. And gradually, film itself will disappear as people move to digital distribution for everything.

Its for this reason I don't think Studios are making vast profits of Blu-ray. They're not selling in DVD numbers (and most likely never will) and more care and attention needs to be spent on the presentation - be it restorations, new HD supplements, supplements which take advantage of the Blu-ray format etc. I'm sure Blu-ray is a huge money pit for most releases at this moment in time. They (along with the BD Consortium) are still spending money promoting the format too.

Sure, I don't deny that their overall aim is (vast) profits. That's business. But Blu-ray is the most upgrade friendly format in recent years. VHS didn't work on DVD. Laserdiscs didn't work on DVD. Digital TV won't work on analogue TV without buying a set-top box. Even outside TV/Home video there's other examples; the Xbox360 has limited backwards compatibility and of course the PS3 had backwards compatibility ripped out of it. Mobile Phones may be compatible to some extent, but are always being "upgraded". At least Blu-ray player can 100%, without fail, play DVDs to 100% of their functionality. Most Blu-ray players even play DVDs better than most DVD players thanks to upscaling features.

So no, I don't think its a huge con, brainwashing or sinister conspiracy. Yes, its lame when some studios hold out on features on the DVD which could easily have been included, only to save them for the Blu-ray. But you know what? I 100% understand the frustration and sense of betrayal you may feel. But you know what as a Blu-ray supporter that annoys me too - because its just an excuse for the studios to be lazy and not explore the format and its opportunities correctly.
I would prefer any and every movie to be in the best possible shape it could be. I'm not against progress. But Blu-Ray is not progress! Even if the movies that do get a release are in better shape than standard-DVD, do you have any movies are never going to be released on the format? In fact, if they could list every single movie available on Blu-Ray and then figure them into a list: all movies made after let's say 2005 and all movies made before 2005... Which list would you say has more titles available on it?? Right now, it may be before-2005. But you just watch how quickly that balance shifts. I'm telling you: years from now, the Blu-Ray pushers will be complaining more than anyone else that not enough older movies are on Blu-Ray. Even if I have to be the one to remind them!
But as stated, it costs time and money to get older films suitable for Blu-ray presentations. Remember when DVD started? How many sub-par transfers did we see? There's a reason Warner et al have released newer, better versions of many classic films since their first DVD release. The early classic DVD film presentation just wasn't up to speed. Why would you insist studios hurry to release classic films on Blu-ray if they're not ready? If anything, that will lead to more "double-dips" in the future.
And being that Blu-Ray has maybe 2 or 3% at most of the total available movies on standard-DVD... I would say that's not fine at all.

I know it's going to take time to release them. But in that meantime, why release new movies on freaking Blu-Ray at all? They already look better than standard DVD releases of movies from any decade previous to the 90's. And probably before the 90's, too! Blu-Ray should be trying to catch up to standard DVD. It's trying to eclipse it. Make it go away. And it's bad enough that enough standard DVD movies are out-of-print as it is. Blu-Ray's not making anything easier or better.

Just look at region-1 Disney. How many of their animated classics are on Blu-Ray? 3. 1 per every season that they released a new Platinum or Diamond Edition. 3 in nearly the last 18 months!! Is it helping to push out-of-print titles into print somehow? No. Only maybe with Dumbo, which is only on Blu-Ray in foreign countries. If those non region-1 discs play in your Blu-Ray player, you also have to be able to order the foreign discs outside the country from trust-worthy sources or else you're taking a risk with your money. Meanwhile, you guys are going to have to wait until October - the fall, when SPRING still isn't even over - for Beauty and the Beast to get to Blu-Ray. Where is the progress there? Blu-Ray can't fix problems with standard DVD and in the meantime, it's creating BRAND NEW problems we shouldn't even have to be dealing with.
But you're beef isn't with the format - the format is neutral. Your beef is with the studios. You can moan about Disney as much as you want, but its always been the case - from their early VHS days. Disney will always withhold product from the marketplace in order to create hype and demand. As for foreign countries, spare a thought for us non-US citizens who are always enviously eyeing the choice and range of R1 DVDs. Yes, we can import, but there's something to be said for being able to walk into a shop and just browse (something we can't do).

I'm not sure why Dumbo is annoying you so much - its had upteen releases and must be easily available second hand. Yes, its not an ideal solution, but why should movies be in print at all times... books aren't. We could all moan about not being able to get a copy of a book we want, but most people manage with second hand copies - hopefully at a reasonably price point.

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2099net wrote:Sorry, I know you typed more, but I don't have time to type anymore.
Not as sorry as I am that I don't have the time to read it.

I just enjoy trying to re-voice my frustrations with Blu-Ray. And yeah, the studios too. But I don't blame all of them for the mistakes of the majors. And if you're talking about money... well, it would put anyone in an awkward position- having to insult a bunch of people by saying this is all your fault and you're all idiots for mostly buying crap. Because whether it takes less time to put new movies out on Blu-Ray or not, they still get the best deal on the format. And there is no contract (that I know of) stating that the new movies have to get released on Blu-Ray anyway. They can frickin' wait! But... they don't. And neither do we.
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I've never seen someone so against better picture and better sound! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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rexcrk wrote:I've never seen someone so against better picture and better sound! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah? And an inferior selection of titles.
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Lazario wrote:
rexcrk wrote:I've never seen someone so against better picture and better sound! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah? And an inferior selection of titles.
You're forgetting that it took Disney several years to finally release their own DVDs/ They had so much faith in the format that they let their stuff be released by Warner. How's that for inferior selection?
You're biased because DVD has a head start compared to Blu-ray. Of course a format that's thirteen years old has more titles released than a format being four years old.
You're also forgetting that catalog titles have never sold as good as new titles. That's a fact. But with Blu-ray you have the added cost of making HD masters for every older movie, and that's a lot more than simply re-using Laserdisc masters (which happened frequently in the early DVD days).
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Yeah, Lazario, you're saying that like a lot of titles AREN'T coming to Blu-ray. Just be a little patient :roll:
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rexcrk wrote:Yeah, Lazario, you're saying that like a lot of titles AREN'T coming to Blu-ray. Just be a little patient :roll:
Think about the answer to this question very carefully before responding to it...

Why should I?

The answer from you, in all honesty, from where I'm sitting is : because people who aren't that into Blu-Ray annoy you.

So, how about we have some fun for a second? Let's both come up with a list of Must-Have Movies for Blu-Ray that aren't yet on Blu-Ray... Just one for you and one for me. You go first.
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Lazario wrote:
rexcrk wrote:Yeah, Lazario, you're saying that like a lot of titles AREN'T coming to Blu-ray. Just be a little patient :roll:
Think about the answer to this question very carefully before responding to it...

Why should I?

The answer from you, in all honesty, from where I'm sitting is : because people who aren't that into Blu-Ray annoy you.

So, how about we have some fun for a second? Let's both come up with a list of Must-Have Movies for Blu-Ray that aren't yet on Blu-Ray... Just one for you and one for me. You go first.
Why should you? Because the format is still not that big as DVD (seeing as it arrived later) so it's unrealistic to expect all the big titles being released.
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While I am getting combo packs now, I don't even plan on replacing all my DVD collection. It would be very unrealistic for me to do that. Not to mention that's quite pricy. I'm sure most if not everyone here doesn't plan on re-buying their entire DVD collection on Blu-ray. Right now I only plan on re-buying Disney films. Even then, not all of them are getting Blu-Ray releases right now and it would be unrealistic to expect it. Blu-ray is going to be a premium format for a long time. We don't even know where it would be at the peak of it's popularity. All that we can be sure about is that it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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KubrickFan wrote:Why should you? Because the format is still not that big as DVD (seeing as it arrived later) so it's unrealistic to expect all the big titles being released.
What are you talking about? Have you read anything I said above?
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Lazario wrote:
KubrickFan wrote:Why should you? Because the format is still not that big as DVD (seeing as it arrived later) so it's unrealistic to expect all the big titles being released.
What are you talking about? Have you read anything I said above?
Uhmm, have you? You conveniently skipped over every argument I added.
And yes, I have read what you typed. You complained about the fact that very few catalog titles are released on Blu, compared to DVD.
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KubrickFan wrote:
Lazario wrote: What are you talking about? Have you read anything I said above?
Uhmm, have you? You conveniently skipped over every argument I added.
Conveniently, you say? Well aren't I sneaky? It was all a plot, too. Methodically orchestrated down to the last detail so that... I wouldn't have to be confronted by you. I had no problem making a jackass out of myself with everyone else. It's you I wanted to avoid. And I admit this now to spare myself a considerable amount of crow-eating.

You know something, KubrickFan? I did ignore you. Your one post, chock full of its' Earth-shattering arguments. And you clearly have your own ideas about why I did that. Ideas quite far away from the actual reason I chose to ignore you. But let's pretend for the hell of it- that I didn't respond to you because I just didn't feel like it.

However... maybe I ignored it because it has nothing to do with the point I was making, except for a couple of offshot comments you separated from my point altogether. And maybe I ignored you because you're not talking to me. You're spouting out generic arguments to every person you imagine is against Blu-Ray without reading me to find out what I have against it. And why would you? Though it's hardly abstract, it's a little outside the norm. If you knew that, you wouldn't be lecturing me on what you think normal Blu-Ray cynics should be hearing. Nor would you suddenly be getting self-righteous about me ignoring you.

You don't think there are any other issues I might have with Blu-Ray apart from a slight lack of catalog titles? That proves you didn't read me right there.
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Lazario wrote: However... maybe I ignored it because it has nothing to do with the point I was making, except for a couple of offshot comments you separated from my point altogether. And maybe I ignored you because you're not talking to me. You're spouting out generic arguments to every person you imagine is against Blu-Ray without reading me to find out what I have against it. And why would you? Though it's hardly abstract, it's a little outside the norm. If you knew that, you wouldn't be lecturing me on what you think normal Blu-Ray cynics should be hearing. Nor would you suddenly be getting self-righteous about me ignoring you.

You don't think there are any other issues I might have with Blu-Ray apart from a slight lack of catalog titles? That proves you didn't read me right there.
All that I know about you is in this thread. If you want to be more clear in your ranting against Blu-ray, then do precisely that. Don't start attacking others for not reading what isn't in your arguments (at least not here). I'm contradicting your statements regarding catalog titles because that's the only thing that's in your posts.
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