UP is 2 for 2 in the Golden Globes
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UP is 2 for 2 in the Golden Globes
Animated film & Song. I would've been happy with P&TF for animated film but UP is deserving and nice to see Disney pick up a couple of GG's.
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Well, congratulations to Up! I agree, it definitely deserved best score. I still think that TPatF should have won best animated.... But Up is still definitely a worthy film.
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I don't know how UP beat the superior films of Coraline, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and Ponyo.
And its score was not better than The Informant! or Where the Wild Things Are...
Thankfully this is just the Globes, which don't matter in the long run.
I'm rooting for a Mr. Fox upset at the Oscars.
And its score was not better than The Informant! or Where the Wild Things Are...
Thankfully this is just the Globes, which don't matter in the long run.
I'm rooting for a Mr. Fox upset at the Oscars.
Best Movies of 2009:
1. Moon
2. Inglorious Basterds
3. The Hurt Locker
4. Coraline
5. Ponyo
1. Moon
2. Inglorious Basterds
3. The Hurt Locker
4. Coraline
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When people look back, they don't look at the Globes, but look at the Oscars.SpringHeelJack wrote:Uh, really neither matter in the long run...castleinthesky wrote:Thankfully this is just the Globes, which don't matter in the long run.
However, ultimately years from now, we'll just remember the best films of the year, not the box office sucesses or Oscar winners. However, the Oscars are used as a benchmark and are still researched. This makes the Oscars important, even if you like it or not.
Best Movies of 2009:
1. Moon
2. Inglorious Basterds
3. The Hurt Locker
4. Coraline
5. Ponyo
1. Moon
2. Inglorious Basterds
3. The Hurt Locker
4. Coraline
5. Ponyo
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Yes, but they have no real relevance. Like you yourself said, you can shower Oscars on a movie 'til the cows come home, but if it never enters the public consciousness, it really doesn't matter. Does an Oscar make a movie better than another? Not really. Do you expect me to believe "Crash" was a better movie than any other film that year? Get real. All the Oscars are indicative of are what movie the voters of the AMPAS saw last, really.
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Seriously? You thought that any of those had a chance against Up? I might have been concerned about how TPatF (my personal favorite of the year) would fair, but come on, we all really knew that Up would win, I think. It's not just great animation, it's great filmmaking.castleinthesky wrote:I don't know how UP beat the superior films of Coraline, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and Ponyo.
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I knew Up would win, but does it deserve to win? No.Margos wrote:Seriously? You thought that any of those had a chance against Up? I might have been concerned about how TPatF (my personal favorite of the year) would fair, but come on, we all really knew that Up would win, I think. It's not just great animation, it's great filmmaking.castleinthesky wrote:I don't know how UP beat the superior films of Coraline, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and Ponyo.
Best Movies of 2009:
1. Moon
2. Inglorious Basterds
3. The Hurt Locker
4. Coraline
5. Ponyo
1. Moon
2. Inglorious Basterds
3. The Hurt Locker
4. Coraline
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If Coraline won....I think my dad would have corinary of disbelief....he hated the movie....After I saw it in the theaters with my dad via 3D he said after the movie that was the weirdest piece of crap you have ever drug me to...you owe me for this...It was so weird and bizzare that he felt like hopping over to Friday The 13th remake and that would have been less freaky...he was disgusted by the idea of taking out your eyes and putting buttons in them...It was because of Coraline that he wouldn't see Hannah Montanna The Movie in Theaters.....yes your probably wondering Why my dad would not see Hannah Montanna in Theaters having to do with a viewing of Coraline.....well....even I don't know..thats the myster of my father... soemthings are better left unknowncastleinthesky wrote:I knew Up would win, but does it deserve to win? No.Margos wrote: Seriously? You thought that any of those had a chance against Up? I might have been concerned about how TPatF (my personal favorite of the year) would fair, but come on, we all really knew that Up would win, I think. It's not just great animation, it's great filmmaking.
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I personally found "Coraline" weak. Visually stunning, but a story that didn't live up to the rest of the film. I have yet to see "Mr. Fox", but I look forward to it even though I typically detest Wes Anderson's "quirky" style. "Ponyo" I did like, but it failed to resonate with me like "Up" did. And "TPATF", which I did think was also very well done, had a lot going for it, but I still preferred "Up".
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I guess that's a matter of opinion. IMO, TPatF was a more enjoyable film. However, Up was technically "better," I think. It was bound to do better than "Henry Selick does a film without Tim Burton (snore)," "Someone made a movie with creepy puppets that look like taxidermy for some bizarre reason," and "Miyazaki's finally lost his mind and decided to remake TLM."
(Ok, I'm really sort of kidding here. While I do think that Up is superior, I'm being harsh for comedic purposes. Don't all jump on me at once! )
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I actually found Coraline very interesting. It really got you thinking about some things. The only plot hole I can find is why The Other Mother wants the children. The cat's explanation ("She just wants something to love or eat") isn't good enough for me. Why go to all that trouble to lure children in if you can go into the real world and drag them inside after you trick the first victim into giving you the key? Yes, sometimes it does feel slightly like a video game, but it still is rather interesting. Just my opinion.SpringHeelJack wrote:I personally found "Coraline" weak. Visually stunning, but a story that didn't live up to the rest of the film. I have yet to see "Mr. Fox", but I look forward to it even though I typically detest Wes Anderson's "quirky" style. "Ponyo" I did like, but it failed to resonate with me like "Up" did. And "TPATF", which I did think was also very well done, had a lot going for it, but I still preferred "Up".
I am very happy that Up won. I think that it really is a superb film, and even though it wasn't thought of that lunch a couple years back, it remains an amazing film to me.
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Anyway, The Princess and the Frog should have undoubtably, but I did love Up, just not as much as Frog. Happy that it won best score, but Randy Newman was seriously snubbed in the music categories.
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Yes, UP did deserve to win. It was great animation, storytelling and film making. Also, the Golden Globes do matter, and often set the tone of what we'll see at the Oscar's. You really are out of touch with reality, at times.castleinthesky wrote:
I knew Up would win, but does it deserve to win? No.
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How much a Pixar film makes has nothing to do with why they win. They win, because they are worthy of winning. Seriously, some of you are so obsessed with thinking Pixar films are only considered good because of their box office totals. If that were the case, then Tranformers 2 will win for Best Picture at the Oscar Awards, because it made a lot of money.DisneyJedi wrote:It's not fair! Pixar movies always steal the Best Animated Feature Golden Globe/Oscar! Just because they sell better than Disney's solo movies or other animated movies!
Coraline was a visually stunning movie, but the story lacked heart and soul. Just when you think they are going somewhere with the characters it has a change of heart and just keeps tossing on weird creatures and special effects.
The Princess and the Frog is a good movie, great even, but in my honest opinion isn't "Movie of the year" material. Yes, the story is clever and is daring on occasion, but the pace is all over the place and it doesn't take itself seriously enough to make it an endearing film.
Fantastic Mr. Fox is a good movie, but all I kept hearing was the celebrity voice acting. I felt as if the actors weren't acting, just reading from the script. There was barely any heart in these characterizations. And I felt the story took itself way too seriously, almost to the point of becoming an animated Ocean's 11.
Up, I feel, is the only one that was the most balanced of them all. It had Coraline's whimsy, Princess' heart and Fox's maturity. It doesn't sacrifice humor for the sake of a serious story, nor it doesn't degrade its story just to be funny. Its bittersweet in its portrayal of life, death and the accomplishment of dreams. It's a movie that manages to feel real, yet in an endearing realm of fantasy, and thus why I think it deserves the award.
Few movies, especially live action movies, are able to do this, and Up did it so well.
The Princess and the Frog is a good movie, great even, but in my honest opinion isn't "Movie of the year" material. Yes, the story is clever and is daring on occasion, but the pace is all over the place and it doesn't take itself seriously enough to make it an endearing film.
Fantastic Mr. Fox is a good movie, but all I kept hearing was the celebrity voice acting. I felt as if the actors weren't acting, just reading from the script. There was barely any heart in these characterizations. And I felt the story took itself way too seriously, almost to the point of becoming an animated Ocean's 11.
Up, I feel, is the only one that was the most balanced of them all. It had Coraline's whimsy, Princess' heart and Fox's maturity. It doesn't sacrifice humor for the sake of a serious story, nor it doesn't degrade its story just to be funny. Its bittersweet in its portrayal of life, death and the accomplishment of dreams. It's a movie that manages to feel real, yet in an endearing realm of fantasy, and thus why I think it deserves the award.
Few movies, especially live action movies, are able to do this, and Up did it so well.
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Can't say that I think Up should've won over P&tF. I suppose it had the more "original" story (in that it's something we haven't seen in a while), but it wasn't a very satisfying film for me. I liked the beginning up til they got to SA and then it just went to the dogs--literally. Nothing very memorable or worthwhile beyond the opening.
P&tF did have problems (the intro of Facilier, Naveen and the butler was rushed; the frog hunter scene; Louis; Ray's death wasn't done very well; the climax could've been a little stronger), but I was overall more satisfied by the end of it than with Up. I didn't feel any of the animated films of 09 were out of this world good, but TP&TF would be at the top for me.
Up did have a great score though.
P&tF did have problems (the intro of Facilier, Naveen and the butler was rushed; the frog hunter scene; Louis; Ray's death wasn't done very well; the climax could've been a little stronger), but I was overall more satisfied by the end of it than with Up. I didn't feel any of the animated films of 09 were out of this world good, but TP&TF would be at the top for me.
Up did have a great score though.
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