http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091121/ap_ ... e_new_moonVampires and werewolves have vanquished a dark knight. "The Twilight Saga: New Moon" took in $72.7 million in its first day to break the single day domestic box office record previously held by "The Dark Knight," which had a $67.2 million opening day last year.
The Friday haul for the "Twilight" sequel includes a record $26.3 million from midnight screenings alone.
If "New Moon" maintains its pace, it might have a shot at the all-time best opening weekend record of $158.4 million, also held by "The Dark Knight."
"New Moon" continues the story of teen romance between a girl and a vampire (Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson), with the sequel adding a love triangle with a teen werewolf (Taylor Lautner).
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And yet the film has (or had at least) a 27% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a 4.4/10 rating on IMDB. Glad to know teenage girls are paying for quality stuff here.
You know a copies of DNA or Men's Health/Fitness magazines are cheaper than a movie ticket and contains lost of men to oggle at or better yet the internet has lots of soft porn too (and the real kind too so I hear!). Why would anyone waste their time on crap like this to get turned on is beyond me. Maybe because their parents feel it's more acceptable.*
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You know a copies of DNA or Men's Health/Fitness magazines are cheaper than a movie ticket and contains lost of men to oggle at or better yet the internet has lots of soft porn too (and the real kind too so I hear!). Why would anyone waste their time on crap like this to get turned on is beyond me. Maybe because their parents feel it's more acceptable.*
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you know, more than hormonal teenagers enjoy the book series and the films. Granted Rob Pats and Taylor Lautner are very nice to look at, but it really wasn't a bad film. By any means it wasn't nearly as good as The Dark Knight, but there were a lot of different kinds of people at the midnight premiere in my area (myself included). In this movie's case, i know not all of the tickets were sold because of naked boys.
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I don't think too many people watch it just to get turned on. It's the stupid people who have either read the books or think the books are a good idea, and are so obsessed with either Edward or Jacob that they think anything vaguely Twilight-related is the best thing ever. I'm disgusted with the films, personally, because they give the books a bad name to people who have never read them. The books are quite good, while the movies are every bit as bad as the books' haters assumed they were.
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I do (their hormonal mothers like it too...), but look at the film's advertising campaign or listen to why people gush about it. x person=hot. It's sold largely on sex like any cheap or poorly written romance novel and it's reasonable to assume that fair number of people enjoy the series for the soft erotica that it is.singerguy04 wrote:you know, more than hormonal teenagers enjoy the book series and the films.

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Right, like Rotten Tomatoes is totally unbiased.Flanger-Hanger wrote:And yet the film has (or had at least) a 27% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a 4.4/10 rating on IMDB.
I hate defending Twilight (the books or movie), I feel like there shouldn't be a reason to. They're cheap reads, Fluff. Read them. Move on. Liked them enough? Watch the movie. Didn't like them? Don't. Very simple. There's plenty of crappier things out there that a couple of old critics agreed to like and everyone magically loves.I'm not saying the first movie was good, but "end of the world bad" it was not, so chill. Twihards are annoying, they're taking something that is, like I said, fluff and turning it into a massive cult. But we can't forget that this isn't the first time something like this has ever happened. Just three years ago we had High School Musical and it died out. Grease was exactly what HSM was, a teeny-bopper theater filling fluff, yet everyone seems to love that still arguing that it's one of the best movies of all time..watch it again without the nostalgia, it isn't. Who knows? May be High School Musical and Twilight will be loved by critics in twenty years, it's all about nostalgia with old movies so i wouldn't be surprised.

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Rotten Tomatoes would be far less biased than say, IMDB, or a horde of hormonal teenage girls.
The thing I have with "Twilight" is that impressionable / stupid girls read it and get completely the wrong idea. Should I want my boyfriend to break in and watch me sleep at night or make horrible puns about being "intoxicated by his presence"? I mean, Bella is a horrible character to be influenced by. All she basically does is sit and mope and wait for people to do things for her. The whole moral of "New Moon" is basically "If a boy breaks off a relationship and leaves you, he still secretly loves you, but it's okay to string along another boy until the first one wises up."
Not to mention the fact that the books are just horribly written. The movies are improvements in that you don't have to deal with Stephanie Meyer's dreadful seventh grade-level prose. How many times in one book can you compare Edward to an Adonis? Jane Austen must be spinning in her grave.
"High School Musical" never masqueraded as something beyond what it was. "Twilight" is constantly being referred to as such.
The thing I have with "Twilight" is that impressionable / stupid girls read it and get completely the wrong idea. Should I want my boyfriend to break in and watch me sleep at night or make horrible puns about being "intoxicated by his presence"? I mean, Bella is a horrible character to be influenced by. All she basically does is sit and mope and wait for people to do things for her. The whole moral of "New Moon" is basically "If a boy breaks off a relationship and leaves you, he still secretly loves you, but it's okay to string along another boy until the first one wises up."
Not to mention the fact that the books are just horribly written. The movies are improvements in that you don't have to deal with Stephanie Meyer's dreadful seventh grade-level prose. How many times in one book can you compare Edward to an Adonis? Jane Austen must be spinning in her grave.
"High School Musical" never masqueraded as something beyond what it was. "Twilight" is constantly being referred to as such.
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I don't know, personally I like that Stephanie Meyer was able to capture the thoughts of a teenaged girl. Not neccessarily the smartest teenaged girl ever, just an average teenager. No, the writing isn't perfect, but it almost feels like the way just pure thinking runs. Not stream-of-conscious, certainly, but as close as you can get without a headache. (Trust me, you certainly wouldn't want Faulkner writing "Twilight"
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Rotten Tomatoes is FILLED with bitter people who constantly trash whatever is popular. Critics are no way to judge a movie anymore, nor have they ever been. Bella is a terrible character, Jacob is a terrible character, Edward is just a dream. I get what you mean by them "giving a wrong idea"; but it's one series. We have to leave authors room to breathe, these characters may have done things the wrong way and it worked out. And if any girl out there is stupid enough to believe that can happen... sucks to be her. If Meyer had stopped to think "hmm, how can I make this have a possitive messege? Let's have Bella save the day because if that happens it MUST mean that every girl out there is a strong woman" the story would have been like every other. Not every girl is a smart, educated, strong feminine person, and that wouldn't have changed if Bella had move on from Edward. If we used that excuse we are no better than the people who wanted to boycott The Princess and The Frog because Tiana was a chambermaid.
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Not to mention she's 18, a senior in high school, and let's a breakup COMPLETELY take over her life to the point where she screams in her sleep and sees him everywhere. It is ridiculous to believe you found true love in high school.SpringHeelJack wrote:The thing I have with "Twilight" is that impressionable / stupid girls read it and get completely the wrong idea. Should I want my boyfriend to break in and watch me sleep at night or make horrible puns about being "intoxicated by his presence"? I mean, Bella is a horrible character to be influenced by. All she basically does is sit and mope and wait for people to do things for her. The whole moral of "New Moon" is basically "If a boy breaks off a relationship and leaves you, he still secretly loves you, but it's okay to string along another boy until the first one wises up."
And I don't know how girls find Edward so hot. He's pale white with creepy possessed eyes. How in the world is that attractive?!
I have to say, when they all go to see the vampire council or something in this serious environment, they all climbed into an elevator. And I bursted out laughing where they stand in the elevator going down, all quiet, to elevator music.

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...yeah, but it would maybe have been good. It's one thing to be passive, it's another to like just faint and then have your world completely destroyed because the guy you just met a little bit ago left you. And, yes, if I was dumped by some guy I really liked, I'd be distraught too. But then other people would eventually say "Shut up, no one wants to hear 700 pages of you moping about some guy." They would be right to do so. And I mean, she's willing to give up everything for him. There's a fine line between love and pathetic obsession, and Bella is skewing towards the latter.rs_milo_whatever wrote:If Meyer had stopped to think "hmm, how can I make this have a possitive messege? Let's have Bella save the day because if that happens it MUST mean that every girl out there is a strong woman" the story would have been like every other.
No... there's a difference. If Tiana was a chambermaid and her entire existence was her happily serving someone else never expressing a desire to move on beyond that or do anything for herself, then those people would have a right to be annoyed. I'm not saying that's what Tiana was going to be, but you see how there's a difference. I mean, what do we know about Bella? She's clumsy and everyone thinks she's beautiful except herself. She's like the biggest Mary Sue ever created.rs_milo_whatever wrote:If we used that excuse we are no better than the people who wanted to boycott The Princess and The Frog because Tiana was a chambermaid.
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I agree that Twilight is pretty much crap--just like a Harlequin Intrigue novel. I don't mean to put down Stephanie Meyer by saying that, just that most of these fans who make it into more than it is kind of irritate me. We all know it's just another case of a girl dreaming she could get chased after by a beautiful boy.
And the worst part is...these guys aren't even that attractive!
And the worst part is...these guys aren't even that attractive!
Yeah, that makes a big difference. My favorite comparison is to Harry Potter. I mean, yes, a lot of HP is cliche and Rowling is far from a great writer (technically speaking)--but Twilight makes HP look divine.SpringHeelJack wrote:"High School Musical" never masqueraded as something beyond what it was. "Twilight" is constantly being referred to as such.
Well, I wouldn't go that far. I know several older couples who met in highschool and have been together their whole lives. Love doesn't have an age restriction, and not every teenager is the same.Not to mention she's 18, a senior in high school, and let's a breakup COMPLETELY take over her life to the point where she screams in her sleep and sees him everywhere. It is ridiculous to believe you found true love in high school.

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Does she smell like bakery fresh Cinnamon rolls? 'Cause if she does than that might justify Edward standing in her room doing nothing* while she's asleep.Margos wrote:Apparently because she smells delicious.
*Well, he might be doing something but I didn't see that in the movie and I doubt they could have shown that...
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I remember back when R. Pattz was cast as Cedric in "Harry Potter" and all the girls were like "HE CAN'T BE CEDRIC! HE IS TOO UNATTRACTIVE." Who knew all he'd have to do to win them over was stop bathing and smear himself with body glitter?
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