Check out this article about the recent split:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... 4M0441.DTL
Although they don't seem to have all their facts straight, their theory on the Disney/Pixar split is quite interesting. The split may not happen after all, read on...
Disney/Pixar split: A new angle?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, intresting article. Do you think the Disney/Pixar split will happen? Not trying to be rude or anything. I don't have a rude bone in my body. I'm on the verge of having people walk all over me that's how nice I am.
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Jobs doesn't want Pixar teamed up with anyone. He wants Pixar to be similar to Lucasfilm. In that Pixar would make the movies, keep the copyright and only pay a studio (perhaps Disney, perhaps another) a flat percentage of the box office for distributing the film. This is like Lucasfilm's relationship with 20th Century Fox with the Star Wars films. Even Dreamworks has Universal do their theatrical and home video distribution.
Pixar are already making moves in this direction with their demands made during these negotiations. Don't forget Pixar was asking to break their current contract with Disney - ie. They wanted full ownership on The Invincibles and Cars.
However, it will be hard for Pixar to "go it alone". Presumably with Disney having distribution rights on their other films, Disney will decide when Pixar's back catalogue of titles will be re-released. So even though Pixar will get royalties from any re-releases, they're unlikely to be "in control". Any studio needs a strong back catalogue to survive (it's arguable that Dreamworks are in trouble - they've just sold their music division - and perhaps Lucasfilm only survived with their ILM and Skywalker sound revenues as well as the Star Wars revenue). So in that respect, maybe Pixar do need Disney, or maybe they think they will get more favourable terms from another studio. Disney's not for budging too much, and I don't blame them. Why fund what will ultimately be your biggest rival?
As for being a ploy to help Roy. I doubt it. Roy is a supporter of Pixar (something I can't work out why when he claims to want to help Disney Feature Animation) but Pixar needs to keep running too.
Not having a distributor lined up for any length of time will harm Pixar. At the moment it's been positive for Pixar, because the analysts think Pixar will manage to negotiate a more favourable distribution agreement else where (or else, why break off talks with Disney?). But unless they're seen to be actively seeking out new partners soon, and doing so agressively people will begin to wonder...
Pixar are already making moves in this direction with their demands made during these negotiations. Don't forget Pixar was asking to break their current contract with Disney - ie. They wanted full ownership on The Invincibles and Cars.
However, it will be hard for Pixar to "go it alone". Presumably with Disney having distribution rights on their other films, Disney will decide when Pixar's back catalogue of titles will be re-released. So even though Pixar will get royalties from any re-releases, they're unlikely to be "in control". Any studio needs a strong back catalogue to survive (it's arguable that Dreamworks are in trouble - they've just sold their music division - and perhaps Lucasfilm only survived with their ILM and Skywalker sound revenues as well as the Star Wars revenue). So in that respect, maybe Pixar do need Disney, or maybe they think they will get more favourable terms from another studio. Disney's not for budging too much, and I don't blame them. Why fund what will ultimately be your biggest rival?
As for being a ploy to help Roy. I doubt it. Roy is a supporter of Pixar (something I can't work out why when he claims to want to help Disney Feature Animation) but Pixar needs to keep running too.
Not having a distributor lined up for any length of time will harm Pixar. At the moment it's been positive for Pixar, because the analysts think Pixar will manage to negotiate a more favourable distribution agreement else where (or else, why break off talks with Disney?). But unless they're seen to be actively seeking out new partners soon, and doing so agressively people will begin to wonder...
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I agree with you 2099net. It will be hard for Pixar to be as popular as they were with Disney. I think there will be a lot of confusion by the common people (non disney freaks). I guess Steve Jobs didn't do that for Roy's sake, as you really can't do such a thing for one man and it's not even sure Eisney will quit with Pixar leaving! But oh well, we can keep dreaming, can't we?
And 2099net, "The Invincibles"? I am shocked! That isn't a typo, or if it is it is a very bad typo
And 2099net, "The Invincibles"? I am shocked! That isn't a typo, or if it is it is a very bad typo
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I don't think that the loss of the Disney name will hurt Pixar too much. That name didn't help films like Treasure Planet or Atlantis either. 
I think that most of the public will be able too recognise a) the Pixar name and b) the quality of the films they produce. Most of the movie going public is aware that Pixar's movies are different from the ones that Disney produces and they will go and see them with or without the Disney name attached to it. In the end it's really the quality of the movie that has to do it. Promotion and 'a name' are just tools to 'oil' a succes: nothing more. People nowadays are able to access so many sources of information about films that they will find out if a movie is good or not anyway.
About the article: I think that Steve Jobs is too much of a bussiness man to get involved in such a scheme. I doubt that he cares too much about who's at the helm of the company that is going to distribute Pixar's movies: he just wants to get the best deal possible. Maybe Pixar will end up with Disney in the end but that will be strictly because of financial reasons and not because of a change in leadership.
I think that most of the public will be able too recognise a) the Pixar name and b) the quality of the films they produce. Most of the movie going public is aware that Pixar's movies are different from the ones that Disney produces and they will go and see them with or without the Disney name attached to it. In the end it's really the quality of the movie that has to do it. Promotion and 'a name' are just tools to 'oil' a succes: nothing more. People nowadays are able to access so many sources of information about films that they will find out if a movie is good or not anyway.
About the article: I think that Steve Jobs is too much of a bussiness man to get involved in such a scheme. I doubt that he cares too much about who's at the helm of the company that is going to distribute Pixar's movies: he just wants to get the best deal possible. Maybe Pixar will end up with Disney in the end but that will be strictly because of financial reasons and not because of a change in leadership.
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Well I don't think Pixar needs Disney anymore. And Pixar doesn't think that either, or else they wouldn't be asking for conditions of their initial contract to be rendered void. Pixar know that they are "bigger" than Disney at the moment, and Disney knows it too - which is why Disney refuses to budge.
After all, a Pixar film is a Pixar film is a Pixar film.
As for Pixar... They're already had talks with Marvel Comics ( http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/fi ... id=2082597 ) so it looks like Pixar are ramping up for a non-Disney future. Having Pixar involved in a series of movies based on Marvel Comic characters means Pixar can get co-finance deals and also release films quicker than if creating the story and characters from scratch. They also have some of the marketing already being done in the form of monthly comic books.
I see this as the initial phase of Pixar planning a loosely independent future away from Disney. There's no secret deals being done on behalf of Roy. Sorry.
After all, a Pixar film is a Pixar film is a Pixar film.
As for Pixar... They're already had talks with Marvel Comics ( http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/fi ... id=2082597 ) so it looks like Pixar are ramping up for a non-Disney future. Having Pixar involved in a series of movies based on Marvel Comic characters means Pixar can get co-finance deals and also release films quicker than if creating the story and characters from scratch. They also have some of the marketing already being done in the form of monthly comic books.
I see this as the initial phase of Pixar planning a loosely independent future away from Disney. There's no secret deals being done on behalf of Roy. Sorry.
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I really like the idea of Pixar joining Marvel Studios. I'm only sad that I won't be able to add Pixar's to my Disney collection anymore 
(except TI and Cars of course). After all, I am a DISNEY dvd collector, but I will be buying the non-disney Pixars too, but they won't be too special to me anymore.
(except TI and Cars of course). After all, I am a DISNEY dvd collector, but I will be buying the non-disney Pixars too, but they won't be too special to me anymore.The Disney Database - All the Disney magic in 1 site!