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Disney Cuts Back on DVD

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On February 3rd, Disney CEO Bob Iger spoke about the future of Disney DVD. Here is a quote from Home Media Magazine
“Disney had a challenging quarter in what is likely to be the weakest economy in our lifetime,” said Bob Iger, president and CEO, in a call with investors. It was packaged media, however, that appeared to give the executive the most concern.

Iger said the results, which he didn’t attribute solely to the economy, would have a long-term impact on the DVD business and would have the company “examining much of what we do,” including differentiating between the type of DVDs released versus their release schedules. He said Disney is taking numerous steps companywide to reduce costs, with each business segment adjusting to meet its revised needs.

“Our goal is to spend, in total, less on films,” Iger said. “We do believe production and marketing of DVD needs to be addressed.”

Specifically the CEO eyes reducing the number of bonus features included with a DVD and improving the price-to-value relationship. He wants to include standard-DVD and digital copy with the Blu-ray release and market it as a value-add to consumers.

“We’ve been taking a hard look at this business for a while,” Iger said. “The cost of those systems needs to come down.”

The executive said DVD sales in the fourth quarter were directly impacted by the “cataclysmic” events in the economy. He also said consumer options for home entertainment had evolved whereby the average household was in possession of about 80 DVDs, compared to 135-140 DVDs for avid consumers.

“This suggests that going forward, people potentially will be more selective about what they buy,” Iger said.

He said the studio would be mindful of consumer habits and be more careful in the timing and placement of DVD product at the retail level.

When asked whether Disney would release titles through video-on-demand at the same time as DVD, Iger said altering the release window was not a solution. Instead he advocated turning DVD releases into a retail event rather than stocking up on catalog titles earmarked for the dump bin.
Some of the changes have already become notable, such as the lack of disc art on recent releases of Mary Poppins and Oliver & Company.

Frankly, I'm not surprised by the decision to cut back on the production of bonus features, especially since all future Platinum Editions that Disney plans to release (except for Pinocchio) have already received multi-disc sets therefore reducing the need for lots of new bonus material.

However, this is a disappointment for me because I've been an avid collector of catalog releases, particularly Walt-era films.

I think this is a hint that we won't be seeing 2-disc sets of Hercules or The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

I really hope these decisions don't lead to the cancellation of the Treasures line. I know Iger has never been very concerned with what diehard Disney fans want since his approach is typically to look to the future, not the past.
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This is no news to me. It's been obvious since WDHV went cheap on "Cars" and "Ratatouille" and released only single-disc DVDs. And they were trying to push Blu-Ray over DVD even before the format war ended.

What gets me is what they keep wasting their money making silly interactive kids games for every release, most of which have absolutely zero replay value for kids.

I'd much rather see them use that money to do cast and crew interview featurettes, or pay an archivist to dig through the vaults to find some proper bonus content like bloopers, model sheets, concept designs (and other previously unpublished art), cast auditions, music demos, and such.

And no comment on the cover song teen pop music videos produced for nearly every single Disney product.

[added later]

I knew we kinda already did this topic -- it was still on the first page:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=23973
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Enlighten me: How does adding already-created bonus features to a disk increase costs?
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That is totally selfish of them! :x
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But think about it, how much money do they really save by having blank looking discs and not putting inserts. The later, I understand how, but why include all these advertising inserts instead.
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MrIncredible wrote:But think about it, how much money do they really save by having blank looking discs and not putting inserts. The later, I understand how, but why include all these advertising inserts instead.
The colourful disc art is actually quite a bit more expensive than single colour generic "art". Even if it is only .10 cents more to make a colourful disc art, that adds up when you're making millions of copies of a dvd.

I am still confused as to why they haven't realized that slipcovers are very expensive and really don't add any value to the product. If they are trying to make the film stand out... The cardboard stands covered in characters from the film they usually send out with bigger releases should be attention grabbing enough.

The chapter inserts being taken away is kind of annoying, but less so on bluray releases because they have the double sided cover that usually has the chapter listing on the back.

But I agree that they should stop wasting so much money on the "interactive games" and pop star videos.

Another thing they could do to save money is release titles that haven't been out in a while, that people want... Rather than titles that keep being released over and over and over again (Mary Poppins for example.)
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It doesn't take an economics wiz to understand the concept of 'supply & demand'.

Disney thinks that their barebones DVD releases and sub-par DVD releases (and repackaged re-releases) are very much in demand, and that by releasing more of them they stand to profit. They couldn't be more wrong. This statement from Iger makes him look like he is WAY out of touch with the company, but more so with the public. As a stockhoder, this makes me VERY nervous.

If he thinks people will buy more Disney DVDs if they have less content, he is sorely mistaken. On the contrary, not only will people find no reason to purchase the film (if it's only the movie, why not rent it instead), but they will lose what little trust the public has left that Disney is the name for a quality product.



Right now the market is saturated with DVD content, and in a format transition and declining market economy a decrease in sales is expected. The answer to this is NOT to produce inferior products, but rather less product and more 'event'. Make each format release really count. Perhaps not re-releasing so many titles every year will increase the demand for the product. Then have truly 'special' editions, with a little bit of work in them, become events in the home video market.

Again, this move should make everyone nervous about the future of Buena Vista Home Entertainment...and not just the consumer either!
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Right... virtually it DOESN'T cost more to re-release already made content. (Say, for example, some of those laserdisc extras that never made it to DVD!)

Now, there's the "remastering" issue - but that's more of a one time fee. Once you get it in mpeg-2 video format (or AVC for Blu-Ray), you can burn millions and millions of them at no cost whatsoever.

I too agree that they should stop making those teen pop music videos... I always remove those first when shrinking their discs to single layers. I miss the days with *real* bonus features... I'll take a documentary over a lame-a** music video any-day!

The slipcovers are cool, but how many people actually feel a need for them? I personally like getting the slipcovers with their releases, so I'm kinda disappointed when I get an old one that doesn't have a slipcover. I know others who just throw them away, though.

Why can't they just cancel some of their god-awful shows? I realize Hannah Montana may be making them loads of money (for now, anyway - once all the teenage girls grow up, will it even have a fanbase?)... but I think some of their shows aren't. And quite frankly, all their shows now suck. Ever since they stopped making the shows like Even Stevens, Gargoyles, whatever... I can't bear to even watch. (Oh, and if they think they're getting money out of me for showing commercials, they better think again... I'm a "power user" so I just bypass them entirely)
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That is such a hypocritical statement. I mean, really? You're telling me just now you're going to cut down on bonus features? Come on! We've been ranting all this time how much more they could have given us. Remember when even direct-to-video films got the two disc treatment? Every film got plenty of extras for both discs, then they started giving us less and splitting those extras between two discs, then two disc treatment was strictly for Platinum releases. But isn't it funny how we keep paying the exact same amount of money for these lame releases that we used to pay for good DVD sets? What I don't understand is how Warner Brothers keeps releasing their movies almost as much as Disney, and every time they have something else to offer. The crisis didn't hit Disney until a couple of months ago (at least not as hard) and I specifically remember complaining about how poor the DVD extras were getting as far as early 2005. So please, Iger, give a relevant excuse.
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I'm having less and less confidence with Iger as the months go on. Why did people pick him again? Who else was their to choose besides Eisner?
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I thought Eisner got to pick Iger - or am I totally wrong on that?
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In regards to bonus features, I'm not allowed to reveal details from the Disney Home Video consumer research forum I was recruited for, but suffice to say, the general public's views do not parallel those of true Disney and film fans/DVD collectors. Most folks keep saying that they don't want to pay more money for extras they aren't going to watch, despite the fact that Disney's 2 disc and single disc releases have rarely held much of a price difference. Fact is, most of the public uses Disney DVDs as babysitters and little else. It is disturbing to learn how few people know the difference between a Disney Platinum release and a rerelease of Fox and the Hound with one or two additional extras....
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right, but they charge the same amount for both types of releases. I mean surely babysitting-DVD-buyers notice that .
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I don't know guys, but I rather want to Disney Co. to keep those extra than release them and add some really unnecessary knowledge of some movie...oh yeah, and also add some guys to the unemployment team

Less art on discs mean less ink, it might be just half a cent or even .00001 of a cent but we talk about millions of discs!
Cheaper discs are more effectively when we talk about selling (on the not-freaked by disney peolpe) than a movie LOADED with art WHO NO ONE REALLY CARES OR REALLY MATTER. They'll be at the end just a bunch of crap.
It's hard to say but is truth, you'll see it what, once, twice? but at the end it won't be different as the same old DVD.
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rs_milo_whatever wrote:right, but they charge the same amount for both types of releases. I mean surely babysitting-DVD-buyers notice that .
I thought they would at least notice that, but from the horses' mouths, I learned they do not. They simply believe if there are more extras, a second disc, etc..., the price is more. Apparently, they are not doing REAL comparison shopping. Supposedly, they are too busy being parents to be aware of all the different DVD versions of every movie out there.
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I think part of that problem is that there is other studios that actually do release two editions of their movies, in which it actually is the case that the second disc costs about five dollars more. Disney themselves has done this with the Narnia films.
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slave2moonlight wrote:In regards to bonus features, I'm not allowed to reveal details from the Disney Home Video consumer research forum I was recruited for, but suffice to say, the general public's views do not parallel those of true Disney and film fans/DVD collectors. Most folks keep saying that they don't want to pay more money for extras they aren't going to watch, despite the fact that Disney's 2 disc and single disc releases have rarely held much of a price difference. Fact is, most of the public uses Disney DVDs as babysitters and little else. It is disturbing to learn how few people know the difference between a Disney Platinum release and a rerelease of Fox and the Hound with one or two additional extras....
No, Disney's problem is that they've been charging too much for their media product to begin with. Case in point: SRP of $40 for the 3-disc version of Wall*E. That's actually MORE than the SRP for the 2-disc Blu-Ray version.

I've bought collector box sets containing multiple seasons of a TV series for other titles brand new for less than $40.

Disney generally charges $5-10 higher than standard SRP for ALL their products. It's like just because it's Disney they think they can charge more for their product--like that somehow justifies charging consumers a higher price. That kind of marketing mentality sickens me.

I don't care what kind of marketing research they do, but this explains why their DVD sales were down last year. It wasn't just a poor economy that affected sales. I think consumers are finally becoming fully aware that Disney DVD/BR product is overpriced when compared with other titles on the market.
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slave2moonlight wrote:In regards to bonus features, I'm not allowed to reveal details from the Disney Home Video consumer research forum I was recruited for, but suffice to say, the general public's views do not parallel those of true Disney and film fans/DVD collectors. Most folks keep saying that they don't want to pay more money for extras they aren't going to watch
Unsurprising, but that news still depresses me.

Memo to Disney:

Do you want cheap fast re-releases that can bring in revenue? For starters, re-issue your live-action titles with restored transfers (and not old video or laserdisc masters) and in the proper aspect ratio. Consult your archives (or disneyfella) for pressbooks to see what ratio they're meant for because 1.33:1 is not always the magic number, especially now that widescreen tvs are becoming the standard rather than the exception. And you know all those old TV specials, electronic press kits, trailers, and laserdisc features? They're pretty much ready-made pick-off-the-shelf special features that shouldn't cost that much to licence out since they're within your library! We want to see old stuff! Give us stuff like "Excitement in the Air", "Perilous Assignment", and on-set interviews! And trailers are fun! They're easily clearable! They don't take up a lot of space!

God knows how long I'll be waiting for an anamorphic restored DVD of The Rocketeer. :roll:

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slave2moonlight wrote:In regards to bonus features, I'm not allowed to reveal details from the Disney Home Video consumer research forum I was recruited for, but suffice to say, the general public's views do not parallel those of true Disney and film fans/DVD collectors.
Definitely. Once again, there's the whole "babysitting" angle. Most buyers are parents who are grabbing movies for their kids because it's ingrained in nearly everyone's heads that no childhood should be devoid of Disney, lol. But on top of that, they think it's enough that they're getting the movie period. Most people really don't care about how the movie was made or anything else that might merit a bonus feature, so why spend any extra for it?

It's been a few years now, but it seems I remember hearing about parents complaining whenever Disney movies came in two disc sets because they were afraid their kids would try to change the discs themselves and up breaking their DVD player. :roll:

If this is the route Disney wants to go for now, so be it. I'm nearly caught up with the movies I want anyway, and believe it or not I can actually be happy with a relatively bare-bones release these days. They certainly won't be suckering me into double-dipping again or "upgrading" to Blu-Ray anytime soon. :p
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enigmawing wrote:It's been a few years now, but it seems I remember hearing about parents complaining whenever Disney movies came in two disc sets because they were afraid their kids would try to change the discs themselves and up breaking their DVD player. :roll
I remember that too. The parents wanted one disc DVDs to avoid delays. If a DVD has two discs, they might grab and slip the wrong one in the player, notice the movie isn't on it, remove it from the player, and place the other disc in the player. They couldn't be bothered to read the discs to see which one contains the movie and which one contains the extra bonus features since that would make things less simple. Talk about lazy. :roll:
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