Lady and the Tramp aspect ratio...

[SV7]

What is the exact aspect ratio for Lady and the Tramp. The titles say cinemascope - 2:35:1, yes?

[Luke]

Yes, 2.35:1 it is. But it was also composed for flat Academy ratio too, so the 1.33:1 version isn't an unsightly pan-and-scan job.

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[Anders M Olsson]

Yes, 2.35:1 it is. But it was also composed for flat Academy ratio too, so the 1.33:1 version isn't an unsightly pan-and-scan job.

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Actually, the 1.33:1 version is a pan-and-scan job. Whether or not it's "unsightly" I leave for others to decide.

Scope version (US DVD):


Pan & scan version (European DVD):


- Lady and the Tramp was originally made in two different versions, one in Cinemascope and the other in "academy" 1.37:1 to accomodate theatres that had not yet been converted for scope.

- When the film was released, most theatres had already been converted for scope, so the academy version only got a very limited release.

- It has not been seen since. All the video- and full frame DVD-versions I've seen so far have been pan & scanned from the scope version. They have not been mastered from the old academy-version, which is a pity. The original academy version has probably been buried deep somewhere in the Disney vaults... Let's hope that it will one day surface.

[SV7]

Thanks to the pair of you (that screen grab is the first scope shot of L & t T I've ever seen!) Can't wait for a re-release.

[2099net]

I'll just add that most of the academy scenes were pan and scanned anyhow. Like Pixar's reformatting, only certain key sequences were re-composed and reshot. But it's true that the proper academy version has never been released since.

[SV7]

Pixar's reformatting - pan and scan copies only, I hope.

[MickeyMouseboy]

Pixar makes new animation on top and bottom their reason is they can't fit a widescreen frame in a full frame without chopping animation so they make new animation on top and bottom to make up for the loose on the sides but you still loose action on the side so it's pretty much BS if you ask me

[Luke]

Actually, with Pixar's 'fullscreen' versions, you don't lose anything on the sides most of the time. You have to remember that they create 3-D worlds not just a frame, so rendering in a different aspect ratio revealing more on top and bottom isn't too difficult for them to do. The visual information immediately above and below is already there.

[MickeyMouseboy]

that's not true, check out bug's life is looks totaly zoomed in with new animation in top and bottom! this reformatting doesn't beat the 2:35.1 bug's life framing!

[Luke]

that's not true, check out bug's life is looks totaly zoomed in with new animation in top and bottom! this reformatting doesn't beat the 2:35.1 bug's life framing!

A Bug's Life is a different case, because it's 2.35:1. Nemo, Toy Story 2, and Monsters Inc. have minimal if any picture loss. Nonetheless, I still prefer the widescreen theatrical framing, of course!

[Joe Carioca]

The curious thing is that, while most (all?) of the international releases of “Lady And The Tramp” DVD had the Pan&Scan version of the film, the Brazilian release got the Widescreen presentation. Still, our DVD has the 5.0 track from the international releases, while the American release is 5.1.

Well, I think that the future Platinum edition may include the reframed version… certainly, they will include a fullscreen version. Let’s hope it will be the correct one.

[Anders M Olsson]

Still, our DVD has the 5.0 track from the international releases, while the American release is 5.1.

The U.S. release is actually 5.0 (I have it in front of me right now) and it's playable in both regions 1 and 4.