The Jungle Book Limited Issue- How to Authenticate it??

[brotherbear]

Hey guys!

So, I (finally) found a Gamestop that has a copy of the animated Jungle Book DVD. Here's my problem: due to the discription, I believe that it's a bootleg. I asked if it had "Dolby Digital" on the top of the coverart, and he said yes. ( ) But honestly, I'm not sure if he knows what I'm talking about though. I asked if it said Limited Issue on the disk, which he replied yes to. However, when looking on eBay, I noticed that none of the bootleg DVD's of TJB had "Limited Issue" on the Disk.

But, what's good is that it's only $9.99. So, if this DOES turn out to be a bootleg, do you think I should buy it anyway? I mean, I will be buying the PE no matter what. I was only hoping to get the Limited Issue for the OAR and to make it a 3-Disk Set.

Anyway, I would GREATLY appreciate any pictures people can post of the coverart (front and back), disk art, and even the insert of the real/authentic Jungle Book DVD! I can't find pictures of the insert or disk art ANYWHERE, so I have no idea what to look for.

Thanks!

-BB

[carter1971]

Well, as you already know, if it has DTS across the top, it's a bootleg. Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner, or I'd post the artwork you requested. One thing I can tell you about the disc art though, is that the it doesn't go all the way to the center hole like most Disney DVD's do. So maybe you can look for that.

If you do find it to be a bootleg, I'd pass. Not only are there ethical concerns, but you'll likely find a few authentic ones here and there after the Platinum Edition comes out.

[brotherbear]

Thank you so much carter for the info! I don't think that my Gamestop has recieved it by mail yet...but when they do, I'm hoping that I will know what to be looking for. (Carter, your information was very helpful, I would just REALLY appreciate images). So, PLEASE, if anyone could post images of authentic Jungle Book LI's, it would be very helpful!

-BB

[jrboy]

here's a pic of a "real" one i bought off of ebay, if it does look like this then it most likely is a fake.

http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/95/5f/8f73_1.JPG

here are some other real one's(front & back)

http://www.geocities.com/leon_baranacki ... _front.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/leon_baranacki ... k_back.jpg


here's a fake one
http://i15.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9a/85/173c_1.JPG

[brotherbear]

Thank you so much jrboy!!

So, to clarify, on the authentic disk baloo is brown?? (On the actual disk itself)?

-BB

[carter1971]

He's brown on mine, but my disc art is slightly different than jrboy's. As I said in my previous post, the artwork on mine doesn't go all the way to the center hole. There's a small clear section, like on most CD's. Also, because of this, the bananas that Mowgli is holding are placed higher, and actually go through the letters in the title. Baloo is shifted to the left a little bit as well. My cover art and insert are the same as jrboy's. I really wish I had a scanner. I'm not too good at decriptions.

I know mine is authentic because it was store-bought when it was first released. I'm not saying that jrboy's isn't; they could have been made in two different locations.

[jrboy]

carter1971
"As I said in my previous post, the artwork on mine doesn't go all the way to the center hole. There's a small clear section, like on most CD's. Also, because of this, the bananas that Mowgli is holding are placed higher, and actually go through the letters in the title. Baloo is shifted to the left a little bit as well
I remember seeing one like that on ebay years ago

"I'm not too good at decriptions. "
aka it's like one of warner bro. dvd, in how the disc art doesn't cover the entire disc. But with the jungle book some of the item(s) have been moved around on the disc.

oh, and like carter1971 said baloo is brown on mine
here's another one
http://www.6dot1.com/images/movies/jb110-3.jpg

[brotherbear]

Wow...

So, I just went over to our Gamestop, expecting to look at the copy of Jungle Book that they had for about 2 seconds and then tell them that it was a bootleg. Boy was I suprised! It turned out to be the real thing! No Dolby Digital banner to be seen, and the disk even had the brown Baloo! It even has the insert in great condition with reminicents of the security stickers on the case! (My only problem with the case is that the DVD doesn't want to stay in the "snaps"!!) Other than that, it looks fine! (And, more importantly authentic!) There are also the numbers and barcode on the underside of the disk. And yes, the disk art does not go all the way to the center of the disk; there is a "see-through" part.

I was not expecting to buy anything when I went! I was expecting to merely tell the guy that the DVD was a boot and to leave! But I was in such shock that it was authentic that when the guy asked if I wanted to but it, I was just like "....uh huh...." and shelled out the $9.99. I honestly don't know why the guy at the other store thought that it had the DD banner....maybe he misunderstood me and looked to see if the movie itself was presented in Dolby Digital? I think that might make sense.

Anyway, all that's left now is to check the DVD and make sure it plays. If all's well, I give major kudo points to Gamestop! I honestly have yet to recieve a boot Disney DVD from them! (Or see one)....*knocks on wood* I'm very happy. TJB is one of my 4 all-time favorite Disney animated films and I'm very dissapointed that they're only presenting the film in widescreen (in the upcoming Platinum Edition of course) and cutting some of the picture off. But now I can have my own little 3-Disk set. If only October could come a little faster, all would be right with the world.

I'll post later and tell you guys if the disk works later!

-BB

[brotherbear]

Ok, so the DVD works perfectly fine and I'm now 100% sure it's authentic. (FBI warnings in the beginning). I'm very happy with my purchase. So, moral of the story?: Don't believe everything you hear...well, at least from a Gamestop worker.

My next target will be either a Sleeping Beauty SE with a slipcover, or the Tarzan CE. At least when it comes to Disney DVD's...I'm working on others such as transfering a Looney Tunes Golden Collection (#2) set if possible (there's no WAY i'm spending $50 for Looney Tunes! No matter how much I might want it!)

-BB

[Disney Duster]

I'm very glad you actually got an authentic one! It's sad Jungle Book will be cropped. I recently posted about how Walt Disney might have planned for the films to be animated in widescreen because even though they were cropped for theaters, they wouldn't be cropped for the television, which he knew he would be show the movies on, probably on his Disneyland or Walt Disney presents shows, you know? Or the Wonderful World of Disney.

You know I must say I find it a little odd/funny that your top four favorite Disney films are Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, and Jungle Book! Because that is four movies, three of which are the Fab Four, but one is out of place! I just find it funny.

Oh, and why are you named Brother Bear then, if that's not even one of your top four films?

[Escapay]

I'm working on others such as transfering a Looney Tunes Golden Collection (#2) set if possible (there's no WAY i'm spending $50 for Looney Tunes! No matter how much I might want it!)

It cost me a mere $7.44 for a new/sealed two-pack of Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volumes One and Two.

Oh, and why are you named Brother Bear then, if that's not even one of your top four films?

Maybe she has a crush on Joaquin Phoenix and since BB is his only disney credit, she figured she'd use that instead of Kenai.

Anyways, glad to hear you got the authentic TJB, brotherbear!

Escapay

[brotherbear]

I'm very glad you actually got an authentic one! It's sad Jungle Book will be cropped. I recently posted about how Walt Disney might have planned for the films to be animated in widescreen because even though they were cropped for theaters, they wouldn't be cropped for the television, which he knew he would be show the movies on, probably on his Disneyland or Walt Disney presents shows, you know? Or the Wonderful World of Disney.

You know I must say I find it a little odd/funny that your top four favorite Disney films are Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, and Jungle Book! Because that is four movies, three of which are the Fab Four, but one is out of place! I just find it funny.

Oh, and why are you named Brother Bear then, if that's not even one of your top four films?

I do agree: It's very sad that Disney's cropping TJB from FS to WS. In my opinion, this is only happening because Disney's realizing that most of the population prefers a widescreen transfer of a film versus fullscreen. I'm just hoping that one of these days, Disney doesn't get it in their heads to crop the fullscreen Snow White into widescreen. That would just be flat-out blasphemy!!!

And by the way, like my name, my banner on my siggy is also misleading. Yes, Jungle Book, Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King are in my top four favorites. However, TLM is not. (I only put that picture on my siggy because I love that original poster!) The fourth film that is a favorite is Fantasia.

As for my name....no Escapay I do not have a crush on Joaquin Pheonix. (Ok, I'll admit he is a little cute, but not to the point where I would create a username solely after him). Honestly, when I signed up on UD, the last DAC I watched was Brother Bear. Being that I had just watched it (within that day for the first time ever) and that I became almost enthralled with the film (hey, I know many here didn't like it, but I thought it was a really good film!!!) I decided to name myself "brotherbear". However shortly after that, I wished: 1- That I came up with a more creative name, 2- that I came up with a name that everytime someone read it, they wouldn't automatically think I'm a guy, and 3- that I called myself "BrotherBear". But, hey...what's done is done.

I'm very curious, how did you guys get your names? (To Escapay and Disney Duster)?? I'm assuming Escapay got his name from that lovable fish movie...can't remember the name right now..... And I know about "disney dust" in the animation studios. But the question is WHY did you call yourselves that? (Hope you don't mind me asking, but you've got me curious now).

-BB

[brotherbear]

I'm working on others such as transfering a Looney Tunes Golden Collection (#2) set if possible (there's no WAY i'm spending $50 for Looney Tunes! No matter how much I might want it!)

It cost me a mere $7.44 for a new/sealed two-pack of Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volumes One and Two.

No way! Do you think it's possible that Walmart's still selling that Looney Tunes pack for that price??? You are SO lucky! I found a Gamestop that had Vol. 2 used for $25. But there was only 2/4 disks there. I'm now officially VERY jealous of you!

-BB

[Escapay]

It cost me a mere $7.44 for a new/sealed two-pack of Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volumes One and Two.

No way! Do you think it's possible that Walmart's still selling that Looney Tunes pack for that price??? You are SO lucky! I found a Gamestop that had Vol. 2 used for $25. But there was only 2/4 disks there. I'm now officially VERY jealous of you!

-BB

I doubt Wal-mart will still have it for that price as I bought it in April 2006, so I doubt the sale would still be going on! Still, it was a rare find and I'm glad I found it!

I'm very curious, how did you guys get your names? (To Escapay and Disney Duster)?? I'm assuming Escapay got his name from that lovable fish movie...can't remember the name right now..... And I know about "disney dust" in the animation studios. But the question is WHY did you call yourselves that? (Hope you don't mind me asking, but you've got me curious now).

Yeah, I got mine from Finding Nemo and Dory's wonderful pronunciation. I picked it because I was tiring of my internet alias at the time (albygoot), and thought, "What would be a sillly name to call myself here?" Initially I had only joined to annoy Kram, since he came to the site before me. But, of course, I had fun and decided to stick around! Don't know why I decided on Escapay, though. I could have done Trebla1985 (an old AIM screenname I don't use anymore). I think there was just something about the word "escapay" that had me want to use is.

IIRC, Mike chose to use Disney Duster based on a book.

Escapay

[Disney Duster]

Authentic Jungle Book Limited Issue Before Platinum Edition?

I'm worried about that for any of the supposed to be in fullscreen films, too!

Ah, I get you now. Yea, that picture is so cool it's the basis for the Broadway poster.

Yea, so many people wish they could change their name later. I was thinking I might wanna change mine just because my friend said dust reminded her of Disney films being old and needing to be dusted off!

Thanks for asking about mine! I got it from Disney dust, as you guessed, and basically my attraction to Disney's films is largely based on my love of the sparkly, glittery stuff. Cinderella was the first film to officially have Disney dust, the term was coined for the fairy godmother's sparkling magic. But I love special effects in general, namely magical ones.

I'm curious to know how you heard of "disney dust" in the animation studios, because so few people seem to know it actually has a name or pay attention to it. That's why I explain what it is in my signature.

EDIT: Yes, I first heard the term in a book Aladdin: The Making of an Animated Film.

[brotherbear]

Personally, I really like your names! Both are unique! Honestly though I have no idea where I heard about "disney dust." I'm thinking one of the bonus features from Aladdin or Cinderella PE's. Then, I've also read about disney dust throughout UD. I personally find it facinating and just one more thing to add to Disney's magic. Also, when I was little, I was facinated by the sparkling glitter that is now known as Disney Dust. (Especially in Cinderella's dress transformation, BatB castle transformation (as well as the servants and Beast's), and in Aladdin with the Cave of Wonders and the golden beetle).

Escapay- I am still very jealous that you picked up a DVD set that was brand new and every thing that would normally sell for around (possibly even over) $100 for only $7.44!!!!! But being that you purchased it almost exactly a year ago, I agree that Walmart will no longer have it at that price. BUT, I will be getting Volume 2! I found a GS (out of state, though) that is willing to transfer a copy to my store. Has all 4 disks. Only problem is that apparently one disk has a large scratch in it. So, I asked him to check it for me on one of their PS2's /PS3'S. He said it worked fine. What do you think of the Looney Tune sets? I don't have any of the LT shorts on DVD or VHS, so I'm a little unsure about what I'm getting myself into. If all goes well , I think I'll be buying Volume 3 soon afterwards because I LOVE the old (30's, 40's, and a few 50's) Looney Tunes and Volume 3 has more shorts from the 40s than any of the others. But we'll see.

-BB

[Disney Duster]

Personally, I really like your names! Both are unique! Honestly though I have no idea where I heard about "disney dust." I'm thinking one of the bonus features from Aladdin or Cinderella PE's. Then, I've also read about disney dust throughout UD. I personally find it facinating and just one more thing to add to Disney's magic. Also, when I was little, I was facinated by the sparkling glitter that is now known as Disney Dust. (Especially in Cinderella's dress transformation, BatB castle transformation (as well as the servants and Beast's), and in Aladdin with the Cave of Wonders and the golden beetle).

Yay, a fellow Disney dust fan! I never would have known you admired those special effects, because your favorite movies don't have...well, I guess Beauty and the Beast and Fantasia has them. Actually Fantasia had the most special effects in a Disney film until The Little Mermaid came, but I don't know if it had more than Fantasia. I wondered if the comets Sorcerer Mickey controls are just comets or Disney dust, but I believe they are just comets because there's no other dust when he does anything magical, and one book I read said Disney dust only came about with the fairy godmother. Yea, I'm obsessed.

I just wanted to say it's cool how you are a girl and your favorite movies aren't the conventional romance-driven princess ones. Beauty and the Beast is the only one that's about romance or a princess. I'm just pointing out it's cool because usually girls are expected to like the princess films more. I like the princess films most, and I'm a boy, so I'm also different. The funny thing is, Jungle Book and Lion King are considered neutral films everyone should love, but the princess ones are advertised more for girls (though they originally were intended for whoever, Disney Princess merchandise changed all that!).

[brotherbear]

I just wanted to say it's cool how you are a girl and your favorite movies aren't the conventional romance-driven princess ones. Beauty and the Beast is the only one that's about romance or a princess. I'm just pointing out it's cool because usually girls are expected to like the princess films more. I like the princess films most, and I'm a boy, so I'm also different. The funny thing is, Jungle Book and Lion King are considered neutral films everyone should love, but the princess ones are advertised more for girls (though they originally were intended for whoever, Disney Princess merchandise changed all that!).

Well, I guess I have somewhat of an explaination for that one as well. You see, when I was little, my mom thought that the old Disney princess movies were way to stereotypical and so she never purchased films like Sleeping Beauty. (AKA: why I never even saw the movie until about 2 years ago, or when I was a Sophomore in High School). So I never really grew attached to films like Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella because I didn't have the VHS's. (However, I'm pretty sure I had the VHS of Cinderella but my mom and I argue about it). My mom was really weird though, because she was ok with buying VHS's of newer Disney Princess films like Little Mermaid or Beauty and the Beast. I think a big reason for that had to deal with the Fab Four's popularity. (Alas- My mom didn't want me "out of the loop" when playing with and talking to the other kids). But other than Ariel, Belle and Jasmine (All of whom I loved when I was little), the Disney Princesses weren't a big part of my life.

But, on the flip side, my parents thought it a little inappropriate to watch Disney films more or less aimed towards boys. (Such as Peter Pan, Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood, etc.) As a result, I never saw Peter Pan until I was a sophomore in high school (same time as SB), I only had SitS recorded from "The Super-Station", and I didn't own Robin Hood, though I really liked it (According to my mom, anyway. I could have sworn that I had Robin Hood because I remember watching it over and over again!) I honestly think that is the reason why I never owned TJB on any format (up until last weekend! ). My parents consider TJB in the league with Peter Pan, SitS, and Robin Hood; directed towards young boys. Because of that, my parents were hesitant to get me the VHS (despite it being my favorite Disney film up until The Lion King came out).

Anyway, as far as the Disney Princess merchandise...The only thing I remember from when I was little was how big Ariel merchandise was. I remember having a inflatible TLM pool, a TLM swimsuit, plushes, and other things relating to TLM. I even had an Ariel Barbie Doll!

Nowadays, I know very few girls in High School who's favorite Disney Animated films are a princess film. I know one girl who's two favorite Disney films are Peter Pan and Alice in Wonderland! I also know many girls who adore The Lion King and Aladdin. (Both of which seem to be big in my school as far as Disney...) Come to think of it, I only know one girl who's favorite DAC was a true princess movie, and it was Sleeping Beauty. (She also graduated 2 years ago...)

-BB

[Escapay]

When I was little, my mom thought that the old Disney princess movies were way to stereotypical and so she never purchased films like Sleeping Beauty.

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My mom was really weird though, because she was ok with buying VHS's of newer Disney Princess films like Little Mermaid or Beauty and the Beast.

<snip>

But, on the flip side, my parents thought it a little inappropriate to watch Disney films more or less aimed towards boys.

Your parents are odd little ducks, brotherbear.

What do you think of the Looney Tune sets?

I think Disney should take a cue from them and release their cartoon canon in the same manner (4-disc sets chockful of extras and forever in print). They could just repackage the Treasures and sell them for $60 a pop and still get customers. It's been awhile since I've perused deeply through the sets though, but that's more because I have little patience for sitting through a series of cartoon shorts for more than an hour (especially if I have to watch the cartoon again for the commentary and/or music track). It's not that I don't like the LT shorts, just that I can only view them in moderation and never for long stretches of time.

Escapay

[Jules]

However shortly after that, I wished: 1- That I came up with a more creative name, 2- that I came up with a name that everytime someone read it, they wouldn't automatically think I'm a guy, and 3- that I called myself "BrotherBear". But, hey...what's done is done.

Hey brotherbear! You can change your username if you wish. Just send a pm to Luke, including your preferred name, and he'll be more than happy to help you. That's what he did to me. When I first joined here, a little over a year ago, I was known as juliancarter (Escapay certainly remembers me that way ). As the months flew by, I realized that I was annoyed by the fact that my name didn't have capitals ... it looked weird. I initially wrote it in lowercase and without spaces because it was my first time on a forum and on registering, I thought the username acted more as a secondary password and would not be my display name. Anyway, I sent luke a pm, asking politely if he could change my name to "Julian Carter", and he did. So there you go.

BTW, Julian Carter is my real name. I would love to come up with original and creative usernames for forums, but it makes me feel strange to present myself under a made-up name ... like I'm not myself. So I decided to use my real name. I like my name anyway.

And ... congrats on getting the Jungle Book LI!!