Has anyone heard of the brand new Bride in Haunted Mansion? There is a new scene with her in it; it looks very frightening, but people are unahppy because it messes up the story or something? Here are differnt versions the scene anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwrqqYM ... ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXOtJJzZ ... ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5FNaKQQ0U
Can anyone give me any info on it?
New 'Bride' in Haunted Mansion
I just found this:
The new show scene introduced in the attic portion of the ride follows a ghostly bride named Constance, now described as a "black widow bride," and slowly uncovers her bloody past, which includes the murders and decapitations of all her previous husbands (named Ambrose, Frank, Reginald, Marquis, and George) in an attempt to gain their vast fortunes. The new effects start when visitors first enter the mansion's attic.
When the visitor enters the attic, the pop-up ghosts that used to shout "I do!" are gone. This is to make room for the current effects. As the visitor enters the attic, the first new things seen are an amber-glowing glass lamp, various treasures and china, and a portrait of a bride and groom. An axe-like sound echoes from the pictures throughout the room, and the groom's head disappears.
As the visitor moves through the attic, with the various groom's portraits and their personal belongings, all their heads keep disappearing as the visitor passes by. The phantom piano player is still there, but the music is louder than before. Near the end of the attic, an ethereal glow is seen and a sweet but sinister voice is heard. It is Constance in her wedding gown. She repeats her vows in a menacing tone..."I do, I do...I did", "You may now kiss the bride", "And we lived happily ever after", "As long as we both shall live", "For better or for worse", "Here comes the bride", "'Till death do us part", "Through sickness and in...wealth". This new, menacing revision of the attic bride, who was once a sad little ingenue pining for her lost love, no longer begs comparisons to the Corpse Bride (although the original bride was never based on the Corpse Bride in the first place).
The bride is basically a white mannequin in a white wedding gown. When the lights go off, a projection illuminates the entire body, showing her as a wispy but realistic spirit. Her face and her entire body are projected, very similar to the Leota effect in the Seance Room and the Little Leota effect at the end of the ride. Constance also floats mysteriously above the floor (made possible by a pole and a fan). Also, in the center of the room is a weak supported floor holding the table that is covering a 30-foot deep hole.
Wow. That does change a lot! So the original Bride didnt have much of a plot at all then? she was just a young girl crying for her lost love?
The new show scene introduced in the attic portion of the ride follows a ghostly bride named Constance, now described as a "black widow bride," and slowly uncovers her bloody past, which includes the murders and decapitations of all her previous husbands (named Ambrose, Frank, Reginald, Marquis, and George) in an attempt to gain their vast fortunes. The new effects start when visitors first enter the mansion's attic.
When the visitor enters the attic, the pop-up ghosts that used to shout "I do!" are gone. This is to make room for the current effects. As the visitor enters the attic, the first new things seen are an amber-glowing glass lamp, various treasures and china, and a portrait of a bride and groom. An axe-like sound echoes from the pictures throughout the room, and the groom's head disappears.
As the visitor moves through the attic, with the various groom's portraits and their personal belongings, all their heads keep disappearing as the visitor passes by. The phantom piano player is still there, but the music is louder than before. Near the end of the attic, an ethereal glow is seen and a sweet but sinister voice is heard. It is Constance in her wedding gown. She repeats her vows in a menacing tone..."I do, I do...I did", "You may now kiss the bride", "And we lived happily ever after", "As long as we both shall live", "For better or for worse", "Here comes the bride", "'Till death do us part", "Through sickness and in...wealth". This new, menacing revision of the attic bride, who was once a sad little ingenue pining for her lost love, no longer begs comparisons to the Corpse Bride (although the original bride was never based on the Corpse Bride in the first place).
The bride is basically a white mannequin in a white wedding gown. When the lights go off, a projection illuminates the entire body, showing her as a wispy but realistic spirit. Her face and her entire body are projected, very similar to the Leota effect in the Seance Room and the Little Leota effect at the end of the ride. Constance also floats mysteriously above the floor (made possible by a pole and a fan). Also, in the center of the room is a weak supported floor holding the table that is covering a 30-foot deep hole.
Wow. That does change a lot! So the original Bride didnt have much of a plot at all then? she was just a young girl crying for her lost love?
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I didnt know Melanie aged in the phantom manor! I thought she remailed young all the way thorugh the ride 
It was apparantly the shock of seeing the deathly wedding feast, and she aged 50 years. So sad !
Phantom Manor follows a backstory devised by Walt Disney Imagineering:
After the original Thunder Mesa town was abandoned, the new Thunder Mesa was built, along with a manor. This manor was owned by Henry Ravenswood, an industrial baron who owned the Big Thunder Mountain gold mines. He had a daughter named Melanie, who had a beautiful singing voice. One day, an earthquake shook the town of Thunder Mesa causing many of the residents to leave. It is often said that the earthquake was caused due to restless spirits in the Big Thunder Mountain Mine, which was in truth a sacred Indian burial ground. With hardly any money left, Henry was left in near poverty.
The day came when Melanie had to choose a groom; she chose an engineer, who was planning to leave town and take Melanie with him. Henry wouldn't have it, determined to stop the wedding at all costs. At this point, a mysterious cloaked figure appeared and hung the suitor by the rafters in the attic.
Melanie then waited for her dead groom, refusing to take off her bridal gown in case he appeared. She aged, then perished in the wine cellar. Meanwhile, 999 other ghosts and ghouls moved to the manor, and Ravenswood Manor gained the title of "Phantom Manor".
[edit] The attraction
Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.
[edit] Queue
The Haunted Mansions in other Disney parks were designed to look clean and aesthetically pleasing. Phantom Manor however was designed to look clearly derelict. The manor's ground are untended, overgrown with weeds and scattered with dead vegetation. Upon entering the grounds, guests see a bat guardbox and a plaque on the wall which reads "Phantom Manor - Non Omnis Moriar" (Latin: "I will not die completely"). A derelict gazebo stands on the lawn with an out-of-tune music box playing within.
Guests walk along the porch and queue outside the house. The doors open by themselves and a Cast Member dressed as a macabre servant appears and invites them into the foyer. The foyer is a small room with a chandelier and two mirrors. Then a cold, resonant voice - that of the 'Ghost Host' - sounds across the room, politely welcoming us. (The Ghost Host was originally voiced by American actor Vincent Price, but French visitors objected to the English narration, so a French actor, Gérard Chevalier, was substituted. However, one small piece of Price's recording remains in use: the Phantom's evil laughter). The face of the bride appears in the highest mirror as the voice continues.
[edit] Stretching room
Guests then file into an octagonal room with four portraits of a young woman. In one, she picks flowers; in the second, she holds a parasol; in the third, she steps through a stream; and in the final portrait, she is having a picnic with her fiancé. The Ghost Host explains that the tour has begun, and asks if we have noticed that the walls are stretching. The room actually appears to stretch, and the portraits grow taller — revealing some haunting situations the young girl is in. The lights go out, lightning and thunder effects fill the space and a glimpse of the corpse of the "Ghost Host" is shown dangling by a noose from the ceiling rafters above.
At the attraction in Disneyland Paris, the room is a lift with no ceiling that is being lowered slowly to give the illusion that the room itself is stretching; this brings the guests down to where the ride begins, below ground level. The ceiling above is a piece of fabric called a scrim, which conceals the hanging body until it is lit from above.
The stretching room suddenly lights up and a door opens, revealing a hallway lined with portraits.
[edit] Hallway & loading area
As the guests walk down this hallway, they see that one portrait is that of a knight and his horse on a cliff. There is another of a young woman in a temple; a third of a ship sailing across the sea; and a fourth of a woman reclining on a sofa. The portraits morph into more macabre versions: The knight become a ghost; the woman in the temple became the horrible Medusa; the ship becomes a ghost ship sailing through a storm; and the reclining woman becomes a were-panther. At the end of the corridor is a large portrait of the character Melanie Ravenswood, wearing a bridal gown.
Guests then turn a corner and enter a large room with a grand staircase leading to the floor above. Old furniture lines the walls. Sitting on a shelf is a bust of a stern-looking woman whose eyes shift back and forth.
An unbroken train of black Omnimover vehicles known as Doom Buggies moves through the room. Guests board the Doom Buggies, each buggy accommodating two persons, and the carriages move into a dark space. An audio-animatronic of young Melanie bows to passing guests.
A moving suit of armor then appears. Beside the armor is a seemingly endless hallway. Peering into its depths, guests see Melanie appearing and disappearing. On the left side of the corridor a stately piano appears. At first glance it seems to be playing by itself, but a projection of a shadow of a phantom pianist falls across the carpet. A large, red-eyed raven sits next to the piano and squawks angrily. The Doom Buggies then pass through a corridor lined with doors. As guests pass each door, they hear pounding, knocking, or shouting behind it. When the last door is reached, guests see two skeletal hands wrenched at the top. The vehicles pass a small hall containing a demonic grandfather clock. A large "13" is on its face and its hands spin backward.
[edit] Seance & ballroom scenes
The buggies enter a round space where a crystal ball sits on a central table. In it, wrapped in a mist, is the disembodied head of Madame Leota. As we watch, she summons ghosts and dark creatures to a mysterious ball.
Guests leave the seance room and move along a balcony, looking down into a ballroom, where a ghostly wedding party takes place. Melanie stands on a staircase, singing. The Phantom stands in an open window, laughing menacingly. Ghostly guests sit around the dining table, where a moldy wedding cake sits. A pile of unopened wedding presents sit in the background. A drunken ghost swings precariously from the chandelier, his cane wrapped around one of its branches. Elegantly-dressed pairs of ghostly dancers twirl around the ballroom. A spirit organist sits at a massive organ, playing a haunting waltz on it as wraiths fly out of its pipes.
The vehicles enter the Bride's Boudoir. Melanie, now an elderly lady, sits in front of a mirror filled with the shape of an enormous skull looking forlorn.
[edit] Graveyard & ghost town scene
The Doom Buggies fly out of the upstairs window and swoop down into a vast graveyard. There we come face to face with The Phantom, a living skeleton standing before a freshly-dug grave. What is its purpose? Beside him growls a terrifying undead dog. Our Doom Buggies then enter the freshly-dug earth and travel underground, into some catacombs, where we see many coffins being opened by their skeletal residents. Four white marble busts then come into view, bearing the expressive faces of four phantoms singing Grim Grinning Ghosts.
The buggies enter a Western-style ghost town. An eerie-looking figure stands before a ramshackle train station, offering to sell tickets. Guests see a ruined town hall where a mayor figure stands, inviting guests to be the manor's 1000th ghost. As he tips his hat, his head comes with it. A gun battle scene follows between a bandit, fleeing a bank on a mule, and a cowardly sheriff with Big Thunder Mountain in the background. Guests see a drug store where a green-faced pharmacist figure drinks deadly-looking potions, followed by a saloon whose front wall has caved in. Inside it there are a dancing showgirl, a bartender, and a man playing a honky-tonk piano. Four invisible gambler figures play poker nearby.
Another figure of the Phantom leads guests into an open grave. As they see the silhouette of the Manor ahead, they enter a dark passage and see Melanie's corpse pointing to the way out. The vehicles enter a subterranean chamber lined with large, gilt-framed mirrors in which a ghostly image of the Phantom can be seen above the Doom Buggies along with a reflection of the guests themselves. Guests travel through a wine cellar where Cast Members await to help them disembark their Doom Buggies, and they walk toward the exit. As guests travel up toward ground level, a tiny animated figure of Melanie stands to the side of the passageway behind bars, telling guests to "hurry back" and to "bring their death certificates". Finally, guests exit into Boot Hill, a cemetery filled with humorous gravestones.
It was apparantly the shock of seeing the deathly wedding feast, and she aged 50 years. So sad ! Phantom Manor follows a backstory devised by Walt Disney Imagineering:
After the original Thunder Mesa town was abandoned, the new Thunder Mesa was built, along with a manor. This manor was owned by Henry Ravenswood, an industrial baron who owned the Big Thunder Mountain gold mines. He had a daughter named Melanie, who had a beautiful singing voice. One day, an earthquake shook the town of Thunder Mesa causing many of the residents to leave. It is often said that the earthquake was caused due to restless spirits in the Big Thunder Mountain Mine, which was in truth a sacred Indian burial ground. With hardly any money left, Henry was left in near poverty.
The day came when Melanie had to choose a groom; she chose an engineer, who was planning to leave town and take Melanie with him. Henry wouldn't have it, determined to stop the wedding at all costs. At this point, a mysterious cloaked figure appeared and hung the suitor by the rafters in the attic.
Melanie then waited for her dead groom, refusing to take off her bridal gown in case he appeared. She aged, then perished in the wine cellar. Meanwhile, 999 other ghosts and ghouls moved to the manor, and Ravenswood Manor gained the title of "Phantom Manor".
[edit] The attraction
Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.
[edit] Queue
The Haunted Mansions in other Disney parks were designed to look clean and aesthetically pleasing. Phantom Manor however was designed to look clearly derelict. The manor's ground are untended, overgrown with weeds and scattered with dead vegetation. Upon entering the grounds, guests see a bat guardbox and a plaque on the wall which reads "Phantom Manor - Non Omnis Moriar" (Latin: "I will not die completely"). A derelict gazebo stands on the lawn with an out-of-tune music box playing within.
Guests walk along the porch and queue outside the house. The doors open by themselves and a Cast Member dressed as a macabre servant appears and invites them into the foyer. The foyer is a small room with a chandelier and two mirrors. Then a cold, resonant voice - that of the 'Ghost Host' - sounds across the room, politely welcoming us. (The Ghost Host was originally voiced by American actor Vincent Price, but French visitors objected to the English narration, so a French actor, Gérard Chevalier, was substituted. However, one small piece of Price's recording remains in use: the Phantom's evil laughter). The face of the bride appears in the highest mirror as the voice continues.
[edit] Stretching room
Guests then file into an octagonal room with four portraits of a young woman. In one, she picks flowers; in the second, she holds a parasol; in the third, she steps through a stream; and in the final portrait, she is having a picnic with her fiancé. The Ghost Host explains that the tour has begun, and asks if we have noticed that the walls are stretching. The room actually appears to stretch, and the portraits grow taller — revealing some haunting situations the young girl is in. The lights go out, lightning and thunder effects fill the space and a glimpse of the corpse of the "Ghost Host" is shown dangling by a noose from the ceiling rafters above.
At the attraction in Disneyland Paris, the room is a lift with no ceiling that is being lowered slowly to give the illusion that the room itself is stretching; this brings the guests down to where the ride begins, below ground level. The ceiling above is a piece of fabric called a scrim, which conceals the hanging body until it is lit from above.
The stretching room suddenly lights up and a door opens, revealing a hallway lined with portraits.
[edit] Hallway & loading area
As the guests walk down this hallway, they see that one portrait is that of a knight and his horse on a cliff. There is another of a young woman in a temple; a third of a ship sailing across the sea; and a fourth of a woman reclining on a sofa. The portraits morph into more macabre versions: The knight become a ghost; the woman in the temple became the horrible Medusa; the ship becomes a ghost ship sailing through a storm; and the reclining woman becomes a were-panther. At the end of the corridor is a large portrait of the character Melanie Ravenswood, wearing a bridal gown.
Guests then turn a corner and enter a large room with a grand staircase leading to the floor above. Old furniture lines the walls. Sitting on a shelf is a bust of a stern-looking woman whose eyes shift back and forth.
An unbroken train of black Omnimover vehicles known as Doom Buggies moves through the room. Guests board the Doom Buggies, each buggy accommodating two persons, and the carriages move into a dark space. An audio-animatronic of young Melanie bows to passing guests.
A moving suit of armor then appears. Beside the armor is a seemingly endless hallway. Peering into its depths, guests see Melanie appearing and disappearing. On the left side of the corridor a stately piano appears. At first glance it seems to be playing by itself, but a projection of a shadow of a phantom pianist falls across the carpet. A large, red-eyed raven sits next to the piano and squawks angrily. The Doom Buggies then pass through a corridor lined with doors. As guests pass each door, they hear pounding, knocking, or shouting behind it. When the last door is reached, guests see two skeletal hands wrenched at the top. The vehicles pass a small hall containing a demonic grandfather clock. A large "13" is on its face and its hands spin backward.
[edit] Seance & ballroom scenes
The buggies enter a round space where a crystal ball sits on a central table. In it, wrapped in a mist, is the disembodied head of Madame Leota. As we watch, she summons ghosts and dark creatures to a mysterious ball.
Guests leave the seance room and move along a balcony, looking down into a ballroom, where a ghostly wedding party takes place. Melanie stands on a staircase, singing. The Phantom stands in an open window, laughing menacingly. Ghostly guests sit around the dining table, where a moldy wedding cake sits. A pile of unopened wedding presents sit in the background. A drunken ghost swings precariously from the chandelier, his cane wrapped around one of its branches. Elegantly-dressed pairs of ghostly dancers twirl around the ballroom. A spirit organist sits at a massive organ, playing a haunting waltz on it as wraiths fly out of its pipes.
The vehicles enter the Bride's Boudoir. Melanie, now an elderly lady, sits in front of a mirror filled with the shape of an enormous skull looking forlorn.
[edit] Graveyard & ghost town scene
The Doom Buggies fly out of the upstairs window and swoop down into a vast graveyard. There we come face to face with The Phantom, a living skeleton standing before a freshly-dug grave. What is its purpose? Beside him growls a terrifying undead dog. Our Doom Buggies then enter the freshly-dug earth and travel underground, into some catacombs, where we see many coffins being opened by their skeletal residents. Four white marble busts then come into view, bearing the expressive faces of four phantoms singing Grim Grinning Ghosts.
The buggies enter a Western-style ghost town. An eerie-looking figure stands before a ramshackle train station, offering to sell tickets. Guests see a ruined town hall where a mayor figure stands, inviting guests to be the manor's 1000th ghost. As he tips his hat, his head comes with it. A gun battle scene follows between a bandit, fleeing a bank on a mule, and a cowardly sheriff with Big Thunder Mountain in the background. Guests see a drug store where a green-faced pharmacist figure drinks deadly-looking potions, followed by a saloon whose front wall has caved in. Inside it there are a dancing showgirl, a bartender, and a man playing a honky-tonk piano. Four invisible gambler figures play poker nearby.
Another figure of the Phantom leads guests into an open grave. As they see the silhouette of the Manor ahead, they enter a dark passage and see Melanie's corpse pointing to the way out. The vehicles enter a subterranean chamber lined with large, gilt-framed mirrors in which a ghostly image of the Phantom can be seen above the Doom Buggies along with a reflection of the guests themselves. Guests travel through a wine cellar where Cast Members await to help them disembark their Doom Buggies, and they walk toward the exit. As guests travel up toward ground level, a tiny animated figure of Melanie stands to the side of the passageway behind bars, telling guests to "hurry back" and to "bring their death certificates". Finally, guests exit into Boot Hill, a cemetery filled with humorous gravestones.
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goofystitch
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How creepy! A little too creepy for the Haunted Mansion. I heard that they might do the same thing in Disney World, but after seeing it, I hope they don't. I like the regular heartbeat bride. She's already gone through enough changes. Maybe the new one will grow on me, but I doubt it.
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Prince Charming 12
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Haunted Mansion
The Paris version looks like it has adopted a horror film motif. I find that interesting, since most Disney attractions are usually family oriented. It is a neat special effect for adults, but kids ride, too. Does it cross the line of family fun - a Disney requirement?
If you watch the Disneyland Treasure DVD, where Walt is introducing the idea of what later would be known as the Haunted Mansion, it appears that his version was designed for everyone.
Maybe you could argue that the WDW version could use an update, but I hope that they never approach the design style of what some of the "other" parks are using around Halloween for their haunted houses
If you watch the Disneyland Treasure DVD, where Walt is introducing the idea of what later would be known as the Haunted Mansion, it appears that his version was designed for everyone.
Maybe you could argue that the WDW version could use an update, but I hope that they never approach the design style of what some of the "other" parks are using around Halloween for their haunted houses
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I don't think so. It's a little bit darker than the others, but I still saw families riding it. I don't think it is that much different in that respect to the others.Prince Charming 12 wrote: It is a neat special effect for adults, but kids ride, too. Does it cross the line of family fun - a Disney requirement?
What? Are you talking about Haunted Mansion Holiday? Haunted Mansion Holiday at Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland is one of the most fun overlays created for a Disney attraction. It is so popular as it rightly deserves to be - I personally enjoyed riding the Tokyo one more than Disneylands.but I hope that they never approach the design style of what some of the "other" parks are using around Halloween for their haunted houses
This website is really good for info on the ride, and it even has the score from the ride as well.
http://infinity-elite.com/hauntedwebsit ... s/menu.htm
I'm finding the Bride's story really compelling (The Paris Bride, that is); so touching and sad.
http://infinity-elite.com/hauntedwebsit ... s/menu.htm
I'm finding the Bride's story really compelling (The Paris Bride, that is); so touching and sad.
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What? Are you talking about Haunted Mansion Holiday?
No. I should have chosen the term non-Disney parks, rather than use "other" parks. I see that a clarification is needed, after re-reading my original paragraph. My comments were directed towards Universal Studios or the amusement park market, for example Cedar Point, during the Halloween season.
I felt that there was way too much gory material (e.g., severed body parts) used in their productions. I did not, as well as numerous other patrons, find that to be scary, but rather distasteful and violent. Both are quite unnecessary to celebrate Halloween.
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