No More Tinker Bell Movie??

[RebelPrince1986]

It looks like there are some major hangups with the Tinkerbell movie... And even talks of completely cancelling production... Here's the article.

http://www.o-meon.com/pages/news&featur ... -27-07.htm

[slave2moonlight]

She's too popular. I'll believe it when I don't see it. And, if I don't, I will be highly disappointed. I adore Tink and am eager for this film!

[BackgroundActorman1976]

alls i can say is the trailer i saw today on the peter oan disc was horrible.

even my niece who is a big fan of tinkerbell(of course because our families last name is TINKER) thought it was to childish and has no desire to see it and shes only 7 years old/

[slave2moonlight]

I have to admit, I haven't seen the trailer on the Peter Pan disc.

Though, if it's the same one we've seen before on other discs, I thought it looked great. Though, that one didn't tell anything about the story, just showed some nice CGI set to enchanting Celtic music.

[Marce82]

God bless Lasseter...
Classics should not be tampered with. Specially if the only reason to do so is merchandise sales. For starters, Tinker Bell was not meant to talk, and the last thing I want to do is listen Brittany Murphy's voice attached to a classic character.
IF, and only IF someone comes up with a decent story for her, that doesn't in any way tamper with the original Peter Pan, maybe then they should make a movie. A goos story that should be told for it;s themes and entertainment, not to launch a line of dolls. And if they make such movie, it should be in 2-D. Marc Davis designed the character to be done in 2-D, and since he has passed away, he cannot be consulted to approve the design in 3-D.
As for people who love Tinker Bell...well...buy her merchandise, watch Peter Pan 3oo times, dress like her, learn how to draw her. Don't wish for Disney to make a movie that will only suck the class out of her.
C'mon people. In 50 years, people will still be watching Peter Pan. I doubt they will still be watching the cheap CG spinoff made to sell crap.

[kbehm29]

I'll admit - I didn't totally love the preview for Tinker Bell in the platinum edition of Peter Pan. I still have high hopes for the movie, though - I mean we are talking about direct-to-video here, not theatrical release material.

Isn't the movie mainly aimed at young girls....?
Isn't the Disney Fairies line supposed to compete with Barbie and Bratz....?

I still thought a lot of the animation was very pretty. Hopefully the story line won't be horrible. I wish they would have put more thought into this - it could have been something worthy of being released to theaters - sort of like the coming of a new golden age.

[PixarFan2006]

I hope this rumor is true. This movie looks so appalling.

[QueenRahel]

i just dont feel comfortable with tink talking....thats how she is! esp with brit murphy as her voice.....i thought they should do some kind of adventure piece with her showing maybe how she loses her voice forever, and maybe almost her life....but that is not at all how the movie is going to seem.....really girly and childish...hmmm

[Disney Duster]

i thought they should do some kind of adventure piece with her showing maybe how she loses her voice forever, and maybe almost her life....but that is not at all how the movie is going to seem.....really girly and childish...hmmm

That's actually a good idea, but I believe the reason Tink talks in this movie is because she's communicating to the other fairies, and we wouldn't understand them if they just chimed like bells. It's like in movies where animals talk to other animals but humans just hear them as barks, meows, etc. So they're saying the reason we only heard Tinker Bell chime in Peter Pan is because we were watching it through a human's view, and she didn't talk to any other fairies.

[goofystitch]

I think that is exactly the case, Disney Duster. It seems that only people from Neverland can understand Tink. The darling children have to ask Peter what she is saying. And judging by the sneak preview on the Peter Pan Platinum Edition, it would seem that the entire film is from the point of view of the fairies, so it would make sense that they would let us hear what they are saying by providing human voices. It's kind of the way that 101 Dalmatians works, where when the story follows the animals, we hear them talk, but when humans are present, we hear normal barking.

That being said, a lot of people don't like the preview on the DVD, but according to Jim Hill, everything you see in that preview is being thrown out and Disney is starting from scratch. Apparently, Lassater said that the film strays to far away from the feel of Neverland in Pan and the movie is being retooled to better fit that. While I dissagree with many aspects of Disney's Fairies line (such as Tinker Bell being an actual Tinker, someone who mends pots and kettles, and all of the fairies having their own seperate part of Neverland, even though Tink obviously lives in Pan's hideout in the film), I don't think the animation looks to bad. When I heard it was going to be CG, I was upset because I typically don't like 2D characters in a CG representation. It usually doesn't look right, but Tink doesn't look to bad to me. Everything moves and looks the same way it does in the film. (Unlike Mickey's ears in "Twice Upon a Christmas.")

[UmbrellaFish]

(such as Tinker Bell being an actual Tinker, someone who mends pots and kettles,

Well, according to Barrie's book, Tink was a Tinker which is why her name is Tinker Bell. Anyway, that rumor is totally untrue. Why release a campaign with books and dolls, and then not release the movie? It would be a waste. Anyway (since I don't have the Peter Pan DVD yet) I don't know how horrible the supposed "horrible" preview is, but for now I'm just going to wait. Hey, it might actually be good (did that ever cross your minds)?

[goofystitch]

Thanks for the info, UmberllaFish. I didn't know she was a Tinker in the original Barrie version. I guess that removes that concept from the list of things I don't like about the movie. I didn't think the preview looked too bad, actually. It basically introduce the six main characters of the film and showed some animation, but according to the article, almost 90% of the animation is being redone. I don't so much like the thought of a little girl getting into the fairies world, the concept of which is briefly mentioned in the preview, because that would mean Peter Pan brought her to Neverland and a.) she looks much to young (he only wanted Wendy to come and only so she could tell stories) and b.) Lassater doesn't want Pan involved in the Fairies films at all.

[Disneyfreak1990]

to those windering how that girl could get to Neverland is the same as how Peter first got to Neverland, Tink brought him there in the first place so why can't Tink bring her there too?
i don't mind Tink talking since we HAVE to understand her. would you rather hear bells and chimes in the whole film?

[goofystitch]

Disneyfreak1990 wrote:

to those windering how that girl could get to Neverland is the same as how Peter first got to Neverland, Tink brought him there in the first place so why can't Tink bring her there too?

I'm no authority on the original Barrie version of the story, but I'm pretty sure the version where Peter gets brought to Neverland as a baby by Tinker Bell was written for the film "Hook." In the musical version, Peter mentions that he crawled out of his carriage when he heard his mother and father discussing what he is to be when he grows up. On Wikipedia, it mentions that in the Barrie books, newborn babies were once birds and are still bird like. Peter goes through the same crawling out of the carriage story, and then meets fairies in a garden where he is lost. There is no mention of any of the fairies being Tinker Bell. It says that the fairies give him one wish and he returns home to see his mom, but decides to go back to the garden. He then asks the fairies to send him home for good, but they tell him that his mother has a new baby for her to love. It doesn't say how exactly Peter ended up in Neverland, but I'm assuming he flew on his own. He never uses pixie dust in the film to make him fly. Tink didn't appear until the second book, "Peter Pan and Wendy," and she was probably introduced as a device to make the Darling's fly and for conflict later in the story.

Basically, if Disney were to go with the angle that Tink brought Peter to Neverland, it would be a direct rip off of Sony's "Hook." I think that story line was added to make Tink's love of Peter a little more easy to understand in a mature live action setting. In the animation shown, they never show the girl in Neverland or Pixie Hollow, so maybe the retooled version of the story has dropped that plot. Jim Hill mentions that the preview is interesting for the fact that most of what is shown won't be in the final film.

[UncleEd]

I wondered which version we saw on the Peter Pan DVD trailer. I didn't like it.

On the Peter Pan DVD they said that the story of how Peter came to Neverlan was written in a second book by Barrie. So it's not from Hook, Hook just refered to it.

One thing I've wondered is I'm pretty sure Tinkerbell has always been one word but now it's Tinker Bell. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? Everything I have from growing up uses one word, not two. What was it in 1953?

[goofystitch]

UncleEd wrote:

On the Peter Pan DVD they said that the story of how Peter came to Neverlan was written in a second book by Barrie. So it's not from Hook, Hook just refered to it.

Do they say the actual story and wether or not Tinker Bell carried Peter Pan to Neverland? That's the part that I think was added for "Hook." I don't remember hearing that version told in any other form of the story and it is a pretty big aspect that explains why Tinker Bell loves Peter so much. In a summary of the first Peter Pan book, it gives all of the rest of the story that has been referneced in many forms of Peter Pan (He left his carriage when his parents were discussing what he would be when he grew up, he could fly, he came back to find that his mother had moved on and had another child, and then he went to Neverland), but Tinker Bell didn't appear until the second book, "Peter Pan and Wendy," which is the most popular and most repeated of the stories.

One thing I've wondered is I'm pretty sure Tinkerbell has always been one word but now it's Tinker Bell. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? Everything I have from growing up uses one word, not two. What was it in 1953?

It does sound like it should be one word and if I had never seen it spelled, I would have assumed it was one word. I have a strange feeling that I've seen it printed on merchandise in the parks and such as just one word. I had a minor obsession with this movie as a kid when my parents took me to see it in theaters in the early 90's. I had a book on tape and I seem to feel like it might have been one word in the text. However, the informative (and seemingly correct) wikipedia about the original Barrie books and plays refers to it as two words, so that is more than likely the correct spelling. Maybe some Disney merchendise was put out at some point with it spelled as one word and it stuck for several years unnoticed? I know it's a pretty big mistake, but I feel very strongly that I've seen it spelled that way on official Disney products before.

[goofystitch]

I just searched for "tinkerbell" on wikipedia and it brought up a whole page about her, which starts with this quote:

Tinker Bell or Tinkerbell is a fictional character in J.M. Barrie's play and subsequent novel Peter Pan, and various adaptations of them.

So perhaps both spellings are correct and Disney has chosen to go with two words instead of one as of recently. At least as recently as 1999, as the Limited Issue DVD spells it as two words.

[Ariel'sprince]

like umberlafish said-that not true,why they making books and dolls if the movie won't be?,i actually liked the preview from the peter pan platinum edition (you can see the perview on youtube),i agree with disney duster and i also think she is talking in the disney fairies book-then what worng with that? it's sounds werid but why not?.

[BackgroundActorman1976]

i personally think britney has a beautiful voice.
just watch happyfeet, she has a great singing voice as well.
thats why i got so excited when i heard she was going to be tinkerbells voice but after seeing that horrible computer animation in the trailer, iam sorry but its not good computer animation, i got kind of disapointed still i will reserve judgement till it comes out, if it has some songs in which britney gets the chance to sing again, ill be sure to pick up any soundtrack they might issue.

if you ever were to meet her in person you would see her personality is perfect for the role, (since they have decided to that tinkerbell should speak in this.)
she is by far and away one of the most down to earth and happy and personable actors ive gotten the opprotunity to talk to at work.
i cant think of one time i havent seen her brimming with happiness and smileing. a very sweet girl and a talented actress

[disneyboy20022]

I just searched for "tinkerbell" on wikipedia and it brought up a whole page about her, which starts with this quote:

Tinker Bell or Tinkerbell is a fictional character in J.M. Barrie's play and subsequent novel Peter Pan, and various adaptations of them.

So perhaps both spellings are correct and Disney has chosen to go with two words instead of one as of recently. At least as recently as 1999, as the Limited Issue DVD spells it as two words.

Actually I do believe it is correcty spelled 2 words Tinker Bell because when Captain Hook or rather smee captures Tinker Bell both Hook and Smee refer to her as "Ms. Bell" Rather than just the one word Tinkerbell or Tink as Peter calls her..